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Published: Wednesday, Nov. 7 2012 10:32 a.m. MST

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atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@patriot
"it was YOUR party that booed God during your convention!!! "

No, our party booed the fact that they clearly had the votes to prevent the God language from being reinserted (since they think it's best to have language that is neutral with regards to religion in order to be more inclusive of people who aren't Christian) but were ignored by party leadership. They were booing the party leadership, not God. Then again, don't let context stop you from making a partisan baseless attack.

viejogeezer
CARLSBAD, CA

To Patriot:
Your quotation from Mormon is right on point, however, as I read all the prophets of the Book of Mormon as well as Isaiah, Jeremiah, Malachi, and The Doctrine and Covenants the reason for destruction of the fair ones(be it Jerusalem or the nephites) was pride, inequality of wealth and education, grinding the face of the poor (Isaiah 3:15), and environmental destruction (eating up the vineyard , Isaiah 3:14). I don't see the Lord ever complaining about universal health care, banking regulations, or progressive taxation.

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

Patriot, I do believe you need to start your own communist country where your goverment can then make everyone believe exactly as you do. You obviously want to go so far as to mandate religion, and rant about killing babies. Guess what, even your beloved Romney believed in killing babies in the case of rape, incest, and if the life of the mother was endangered. Now, maybe you believe in zero tolerance for abortions; if so, I hope you voted for a candidate that felt the same, and I hope you belong to a religion that feels the same. Otherwise, your words are meaningless to me!

Redshirt1701
Deep Space 9, Ut

To "LDS Liberal" I have never wished for his failure. If he is a failure as a President, then the nation is also failing.

I have hoped for his policies to fail to be implemented. His success is the success of the nation. I will continue to do as I have for a long time. I will pray for the success and prosperity of this nation.

A president's success is not measured by the bills he pushed, but by how well the nation prospers while he is in office. So far I would not consider his actions as helping us to prosper. He will go down in history as a failure BECAUSE of his policies, not because of a failure to implement policies.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

Welcome to the new United States. Home of the lazy and dependent.
Those looking for work need not apply. We will just provide a free cell phone and flat screen TV.

I pray that Obama will take money from his offshore investments and put it into Obamacare as an example that we should help each other willingly. Not forcefully as those that voted for him.

NMEEERCL
Houston, TX

Therefore, choose you by the voice of this people, judges, that ye may be judged according to the laws which have been given you by our fathers, which are correct, and which were given them by the hand of the Lord.

Now it is not common that the voice of the people desireth anything contrary to that which is right; but it is common for the lesser part of the people to desire that which is not right; therefore this shall ye observe and make it your law—to do your business by the voice of the people.

And if the time comes that the voice of the people doth choose iniquity, then is the time that the judgments of God will come upon you; yea, then is the time he will visit you with great destruction...

Mosiah 29

just-commenting
Logan, UT

The presidential election was good news for the country last night. The winning party stands on principles of the Gospel stated in the Book of Mormon. ". . . they did not send away any who were naked, or that were hungry, or that were athirst, or that were sick, or that had not been nourished; and they did not set their hearts upon riches; therefore they were liberal to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, whether out of the church or in the church, having no respect to persons as to those who stood in need." Alma 1:30.

The outcome showed that we can hope for Christian charity, honesty, and love for ALL of God's children.

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

@patriot
If you really believe half of what you posted I would suggest a little more history lessons and a little less posting in your future. You do realize the founding fathers had conflicting views on the role of government? You do of courser realize the founding fathers only where able to establish our form of government and therefore our country because in the end they where willing to compromise, right?

LValfre
CHICAGO, IL

@Redshirt1701
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A president's success is not measured by the bills he pushed, but by how well the nation prospers while he is in office."

I beg to differ. This is an important measurement but the policies, bills, and changes implemented will potentially last for many years. The end result of these programs will be measured for many years. Some may do great now (bailouts) and crash and burn later. Some will do nothing now and in 20-30 years we may be thanking our lucky stars Obama put them in place.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Really..... there are people on this earth that some deem unworthy of ones prayers.... wow.

You have a direct example from the leaders of the church of one of the candidates, and yet still some will put politics ahead of faith. Things have absolutely gone upside down.

My son is serving a mission in a former soviet block county, one still struggling with the idea of what freedom is.... and in this small country you have members faithfully living the gospel, praying for their leaders. And yet here, in a country where we enjoy one of the most free lifestyles of any in the world, we have those who feel they have the judgement enough to decide who is worthy of prayer or not.

I am worried for America - but not because of Obama, nor Romney, but those who think they are in a place to judge other people and decide who is worthy of prayer.

Redshirt1701
Deep Space 9, Ut

To "just-commenting" you are wrong. Charity and the aid of the needy is not forced.

You need to go and learn more about LDS doctrine. What we saw was exactly what we have been warned about in modern times. See D&C 56:17 "17 Wo unto you poor men, whose hearts are not broken, whose spirits are not contrite, and whose bellies are not satisfied, and whose hands are not stayed from laying hold upon other men’s goods, whose eyes are full of greediness, and who will not labor with your own hands!".

The poor are taking (through the laws and taxation) from the wealthy.

Also, read Jacob 2. There we learn that it is up to each individual (not government) to help the hungry and needy.

Also see D&C 58:26 "For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward."

Why do yo want to destroy us by forcing us into charity?

To "LValfre" in 20 to 30 years we will be cursing Obama's policies and debts.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Wasn't it Mark Twain who said in one of his books, "You can't pray a lie"? I can't pray and ask God to help any leader destroy our country! I can't pray and ask God to bless a leader who is wrong on every moral issue! Ask God to help Obama provide more abortions? Ask God to help Obama lead our country into more debt? Ask God to help Obama cover-up more scandals? Ask God to help Obama waste more tax money?

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

its always strikes me how the same posters that use their religion to try to defend their politics and claim that to question their political opinion is the same as attacking on their religion are so quick to turn their back on their religious leaders counsel when it does not fit their political agenda.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

As demonstrated above religion and politics should not be mixed.

Montana Mormon
Miles City, MT

If the communication between the Executive Branch and Legislative Branch is (continues to be) as vitriolic and dysfunctional as what we see among everyday Americans in the blogosphere, such as we see in this thread of comments, we are toast--Game Over.

If you don't want to pray for the President, then pray for America.

WinnieThePooh
Summerside/Canada, 00

I strongly feel that LDS Canadians should pray for Obama as well as the Americans and we should pray for a spiritual conversion for him as well since he's for Abortion and for Gay rights since only the Lord can convict him on those two moral issues.

Californian#1@94131
San Francisco, CA

I've made it a habit to pray for the leaders of the U.S. and other nations.

I pray for them to have wisdom and be guided by what is best for their people and all the people of the world, rather than their own personal agendas or ambitions. Seeing the kind of people that most leaders of most nations are, that is the prayer they need most.

And seeing the quality of political leadership America has had recently, I pray even more fervently for America than I do for its leaders.

Jazzledazzle
Provo, UT

I really really wanted Romney to win. I am 28, I am young, I know that. I have never cared so much about an election and when Obama was announced the winner it literally felt like someone punched me in the stomach. I was ornery the rest of the night. Now that I have had a chance to let it sink in, I will just say although I do not agree with who the president is, I love the USA, we live in the greatest country in the world, and I do pray that we can get out of this recession and I pray for President Obama's success. He is the President and I will support him as hard as it is for me to do. Good run by Romney, he convinced nearly half the nation.

Wildcat
O-town, UT

It looks like the Romney Reader is going to have to go back to being the D-News...I told you it would happen.

The bitterness is strong in some--getting upset because the LDS leaders want their members to pray for the President? Wow.

Forward we go as a Nation! Hallelujah and amen!

Oh by the way, I thought Romney's concession speech was great. If only he was ran his campaign as his own person and tried to be a moderate...could have been a whole lot different.

Looks like Harry Reid remains the highest-ranked LDS politician. If you want a Mormon Moment, it's Harry Reid in 2016! I would think Huntsman would be a good choice for the GOP--but they are probably going to tack very far to the right next time.

I pray for all of you on this board--some of you more than others! :-) God bless us all.

Your Buddy,

Wildcat

anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

Pray for him, fine. But I see no need to congratulate him.

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