@worfHistory simply does not support the view by Christians that the
founding fathers intended to establish this country on "biblical
principles" or that we are a Christian nation. In fact, there is little
proof to support the claim that the colonial population was overwhelmingly
Christian either. Look it up! The primary leaders of the so-called founding
fathers of our nation were not Bible-believing Christians; they were deists. Our
founding fathers established a religiously neutral (or secular) nation, and a
tragedy of our time is that so many people are striving to undo all that was
accomplished by the wisdom of the founding fathers who framed for us a
constitution that would protect the religious freedom of everyone regardless of
personal creed. An even greater tragedy is that they many times many the public
is hoodwinked into believing that they are only trying to make our nation what
the founding fathers would want it to be. Separation of church and state is what
the founding fathers wanted for the nation, and we must never allow anyone to
distort history to make it appear otherwise.
worf wrote:"We are a Christian nation, and neither you or Obama
will change that."Wanna' bet? Sounds like a challenge
filled with hubris. I will gladly take the challenge. This is NOT a
"Christian nation" despite your false claims, and you can provide NO
evidence to support such a nonsensical assertion!
Hutterite"Religion is poison in politics. It has no place
there."This country was founded on freedom of religion,
"Christianity".We are a Christian nation, and neither you or
Obama will change that.
If all Americans knew the truth about Obama and how bad his leadership is,
he'd be behind by 20 points. The only reason the American people are not
being informed is because the vast majority of media have as much of a vested
interest in Obama winning as Christians have in Jesus. Obama has become the
messiah of the left. No one wants to accept that their god is false.
That's why the media have completely dropped any pretense of reporting and
have become partisan politicians themselves. Sad, change in our 4th estate.
The country won't survive if it continues.
Giving a half a million dollars for every second in a year, is not enough to pay
off our deficit.A sixteen trillion dollar national debt is no
accident, but planned.Once people understand this, it becomes easier
to understand our political leaders, and make better choices when voting.
Truthseeker, I take issue with all your pronouncements they aren't
necessarily so. The ridiculous idea that billionaires control the conservative
movement is no more compelling that George Soros and Larry Flynt control the
Democrats. The unhappy conclusion that somehow all the hypocrites on the right
caused you to apostatize from your heritage sounds more like acceptance of the
liberal agenda of the California elite. I lived the past 10 years in ultra
liberal Oregon so I'm not speaking as some right winger but I do feel that
Mitt Romney is addressing the issues and Obama is name calling,using negative
ads to smear both Ryan and Romney because he has nothing to run on.
Evangelicals and Tea-Party goers normally below to the Republican or
Conservative voting block, whether in the south or north, east or west.President Obama doesn't have any of those types of beliefs nor practices
whether in politics, economics, religious beliefs or other points of views that
are of interest to evangelicals or tea-party members.It doesn't
seem like it would be a hard decision to make. Our country was based and
founded on moral principles that still are part of our initial documents that
guided our citizens to form our nation with God's compass and light.This is an extraordinary country that has been like no other of this
type, ever. We are a country of law and order. People can feel secure in
almost every way possible, financially, security, and safe. We have fought to
help others develop those same types of philosophies in their government. We
have shown by example of the several centuries that we have been a country.Veterans' day is after the election to remember veterans and their
sacrifice for our country over those centuries. We still have active duty
civilians and military members in harm's way. Vote.
"No one sane disputes the fact that the base of the base of the Republican
Party -- post Roe V Wade and with a big "assist" from my late Religious
Right leader father Francis Schaeffer and me (before I changed my mind) -- is
evangelical voters. No one sane disputes the fact that the Republican Party is
funded these days mainly by a handful of billionaires with a vested interest in
seeing that government does their economic will. No one sane disputes the fact
that this attempt to work the billionaires' economic will has
little-to-nothing to do with the core "family values" and
"pro-life" issues that motivate the vast swath of Right wing-leaning
evangelical voters. And no one sane disputes the fact that in the old days
voters disagreed over policy but mostly agreed on basic facts from which policy
would be derived."(Frank Schaeffer, son of Francis Schaeffer,
considered to be a founder of the Christian Right)
@semper fi"...Bring on the religious diatribe...".This article is compiled by a DN employee named Eric Schulzke.The
religious diatribe is brought to you by a Republican Newspaper as well as a
@ Jaytee: My good person you have spoken the truth and thats why
there's is no way i will every vote for Romney. And yes i know that he is
not the incumbent.
Religion is poison in politics. It has no place there.
People with ethics, morals, and values need to stick together. Big government
won't replace anything good, let alone character and freedom. It's
hard to believe that anyone with any understand of the nature of man would cling
to an incumbent who has spent four years providing nothing positive for the
country or the world. A real leader is more than speeches. A real leader knows
and cares. A real leader works hard for positive change based on genuine
values. Being on vacation, giving speeches, and declaring personal brilliance
are not enough. Hopefully, there are still enough American voters who
understand these things.
MightymiteYour hearing needs checked Romney will easily defeat Obama in
Utah with around 70% of the vote
Just listened to the closing arguments of both candidates.Obama continues to
support public sector unions, government regulators,the war on coal, natural gas
and oil. He has no budget, no plan to reign in the 16 trillion debt. Romney
wants to unleash our energy production, reign in public sector unions,do
something about the 16 trillion deficit and save medicare and social security.
BYU Alum,If KJB1 needs to get his glasses fixed, then you need to get your
expectations fixed. Your zealous support of Romney is a little frightening to
me, and your laundry list of hopes! and dreams! comes off as juvenile and naive.
Ever seen a presidential campaign before? Ever compare the promises made on the
campaign trail to the reality that sets in once that president has to deal with
the real world and Congress?"Mitt Romney is the man!" That
made me smile. Like a schoolgirl's crush, it's just so cute and
innocent. And by the way, that "we" you keep referring to
only includes about 50% of the country. The other 50% will disagree with you.
Social Mod Fiscal Con,Romney wasn't prepared or qualified 4
years ago, and the last 4 years has proven that while he has principles, they
bear no resemblance to the principles and platforms he held 4 years ago. Or even
4 months ago.
@KJB1Obama wasn't prepared or qualified 4 years ago, and the last 4
years has proven that while he has principles, they are the wrong ones for this
KBJ1: You need to get your glasses fixed. Mitt Romney is the man!
And Romney/Ryan will bring back needed leadership different from this failing
administration, i.e. spending, deficit, unemployment, Libya coverup, expensive
vacations, etc. We need to restore jobs and this country's honor, good
name, integrity, and credit rating. We need to repeal Obamacare. We need to get
back to upholding the Constitution and stop the overreach of this
president's 900 Executive Orders. We are tired of hearing Obams's
rhetoric and seeing photo ops every single day of the last four years in
continual campaign mode. We are SO ready for new leadership in this country! We
are ready for a president who actually stays in the Oval Office and governs.
That new leadership, that new president is Mitt Romney! Romney-Ryan
@CrusaderWhat kind of god do you believe in?
Please!! Stop all the bashing and name calling! I am so sick of it.The most prepared, qualified, and principled candidate is Barack Obama. I
have already voted for him and proudly so. God bless America!
Please!! Stop all the bashing and name calling! I am so sick of it.The most prepared, qualified, and principled candidate is Mitt Romney. I have
already voted for him and proudly so. God bless America!
Wasn't just a few short months ago that the evangelicals were saying Mitt
Romney was the absolute worst possible candidate for POTUS? I'm sure those
were their exact words. So now, all those evangelicals will be forced to vote
for Mitt not as the candidate they really want, but just as the lessor of two
evils. Mitt will likely get something nearing 50% of the popular vote. But of
those, there will be tens of millions who will have held their nose before
voting for Mitt Romney. To those evangelicals, Mitt is not a good candidate.
He's just the least bad candidate. Remember that come election
day. Those voting for President Obama really do support Obama. Tens of
millions who will vote for Mitt Romney are only voting for the R and really wish
it could be any other R besides Mitt.
Politics sure makes for strange bed fellows. By their definition, Evangelicals
would be voting to put a non-Christan in office. Guess that's what you
would call an Oxy-Mormon.
minyMITE, I'd love to hear your source for knowing that most Mormons are
leaning toward Obama.Never mind the fact that Obama approves of abortion
and same sex marriage.justaround, so you hate that religion plays a role
in the elections?Perhaps atheism would be acceptable?Or what if race
played a part in this or the previous presidential election, would that bother
you?So we can safely say that we don't like the influence of others
who vote contrary to how we vote if they are influenced by something we disagree
It will be interesting to see how many Evangelicals just won't pull the
lever for Romney and vote for a third party candidate. Virgil Goode is on the
ballot in Virginia and is polling more than just a sprinkling of votes there. He
could be the Ralph Nader of 2012.
Crusader,That's possibly on my top 5 list of dumbest things
I've ever heard.
People of religion can vote solely for religious reasons, that's the beauty
of a democracy. So enjoy your non-religious reasons, while I enjoy my skewed
theological ones:A registered Independent, I will be voting for
Romney. Then I can have a more ethical president, a fiscal conservative, and I
can shine the light on all things Mormon for the next 4-8 years. As Biblical
purists and evangelical Christians, we all know that Mormonism is polytheistic
and polygamous. This will be a dream come true for this 7th generation pioneer
heritage ex-Mormon. Love my family, but not the hodge-podge reversals and 19th
century theology.This is gonna be great!! Bring on the religious
Perhaps Sandy was a miracle. God could not stand seeing Romney ahead in the
polls so he sent a storm so that our President could show how he stands up
during a crisis.
Mr. Land, ever heard of 3 branches of government? For 30 years now the
"Evangelical" voter put foreign policy ahead of simple gospel doctrine
of faith; no need to dwell on Armageddon and end-of-the-world scenarios.
Religion is more important than politics. God loves Russia too.
Its to bad that religion is trying to push the election ! I think the world is
alot better with OBAMA. Mitt Romney is not in touch with middle class. Doesnt
matter in Utah as the Democrat vote doesnt matter in a electorial college vote
for republicans. But hopefully he will move some of those offshore accounts to
the USA and stay in America if he wins.
Sure but the mormon vote will put him over the top.. but I am hearing that the
vast majority of mormon are still undecided on Romney leaning toward Obama.