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Published: Thursday, Nov. 1 2012 11:51 a.m. MDT

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RanchHand
Huntsville, UT

I sincerely doubt that most American women want to return to the "biblical" definition of marriage.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

Billy Graham knows the impact when people don't live God's commandments that were given to help people in their lives. The message is true today as it was in ancient times, for all faiths and religions. The term biblical values could better be said as traditional values and family type values.

Whatever one wants to disagree with on the terminology, God gave us a conscience to help us know what is right and wrong and you can even say you have an impression, I feel it in my heart, I know it is right or even wrong and we all have that within us.

Billy Graham has spent his lifetime trying to persuade people to listen and feel that Spirit. He even is sending this message today for those that want to listen.

It is not mandatory that people listen, but Billy Graham is doing what he is impressed to do for those he loves and cares for, even our country, the United States of America.

What a blessing to live in a country that can have individuals and organizations spread the word they have taught for their lifetime.

Today is great for people to vote and Tuesday.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

What about mikes latest fearmongering or threat for religious folks?

Mike Huckabee warns Christians by stating “their votes are recorded in eternity.” He says voting for the wrong person, we know who, Obama and you’ll be faced with the wrath of God. At the end of the video ad, he says; your vote will affect the future and be recorded in eternity, will you vote the values that will stand the test of fire?

Kevin J. Kirkham
Salt Lake City, UT

The non-LDS 150 years ago voted in biblical values when they voted to outlaw polygamy and persecute the LDS that did. Since we LDS have another take on the Bible than others, we should be careful about promoting "biblical values". It bit us in the past and could in the future. 1 Cor. 10:29 denouces the use of subjective moral ideas to infringe upon the rights and liberties of others.

one old man
Ogden, UT

So Biblical values, like Utah values, all depend upon who is enumerating the values?

Does that actually provide any assurance that those values actually have any value?

Utah Values, like Biblical Values seem to be pretty darned elusive these days.

IndependentLiberal
Salt Lake City, UT

I can say unequivocally based on a half century of listening to, reading, and watching Billy Graham on TV, He never made the statement quoted in this article. This just too blatant of political pandering to be believable and is undoubtedly concocted by his son. I have watched Franklin over the years and that acorn fell a great distance from the mighty oak. Billy’s message was so simple, come to Jesus, that’s all that is important. He prayed with Richard Nixon, bailed Martin Luther King out of jail, and was the first Evangelist to preach behind the Iron Curtin. He had no political agenda! Shame on you Franklin!

IndependentLiberal
Salt Lake City, UT

He refused to join Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority in 1979, saying: "I'm for morality, but morality goes beyond sex to human freedom and social justice. We as clergy know so very little to speak with authority on the Panama Canal or superiority of armaments. Evangelists cannot be closely identified with any particular party or person. We have to stand in the middle in order to preach to all people, right and left. I haven't been faithful to my own advice in the past. I will be in the future."

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

The problem is biblical or Christian values are broad and diverse. Absolutely the bible lashes out against immorality. I think we have seen plenty of that from both parties. The scriptures talk about the family, and the divine nature of it, and there the Republicans have and edge.

But take for example of the story that was shown on ESPN last week of a Chicago kid who broke his neck during a basketball game for his school For a few years, the schools insurance company took good care of him, until they decided they had paid enough. The boy came from a lower middle class family, and so within 18 months of the insurance company cutting him off, he passed away from complications that had been kept under control by available medication.

What biblical value or principle is it that says abortion is wrong, but sending a 20 something year old to their death because they can't afford the needed medication is morally ok? If you are pro-life, you would think that would include 20 year olds as well as the unborn. Neither side had the high ground here.... Not Romney, Nor Obama.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

People have to take a stand. It doesn't make any difference in philosophy whether it was written by one person or another. The message is the same. Over the years, Billy Graham has taught of peace and peace comes by listening to God's message.

Mike Huckabee is a strict politician even though he may have Minister or Reverend by his name. That is a big difference than Billy Graham. He was very adamant against Mitt Romney in 2007 and 2008 in so many bad ways.

The East of Utah that voted against the state entering the union and included polyamy, was politics and not just religion. That was a way to keep a state with a religion tied to it that the Federal Government was in charge. The LDS religion is a life style and with familiy ties. The East still considers the West in a different realm than the rest of the United States of America.

Again, people know what is meant in the heart or soul what Billy Graham or his son is talking about.

Politics and religion, even in Utah are about a hair width apart. Values, whether political or religious are in the same line.

Grundle
West Jordan, UT

The problem with any discussion about values, biblical, moral, or other, is that we all have differing values.

So...It comes down to the individuals to judge. No one candidate, party, or religion, embodies all the values exactly as we see them so we compromise. We make the best choice between good, better, or best.

Billy Graham is simply reminding us of what values he finds most important. Some of the posters in this forum would like to paint the picture that a failure to enumerate a particular value implies an opposition to that value. This is, of course, a foolish conclusion.

In this election, it is my opinion that the values I am most concerned about have been put aside in favor of values I am less concerned about.

That is why I am supporting Mitt Romney and the Republican caucus in this election.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Pick and choose WHICH values we should go back to...

Slavery
Polygamy
Stonings
Eye for and Eye?

or
Follow the Savior who taught us to;

Heal the sick
Feed the hungry
Clothe the naked
House the homeless
Provide for the widows and the children
Never START wars
Forgive and include everyone - esspecially the sinners
Punish the rich who do not give freely
Willing pay your taxes

Jesus never once mentioned abortion, gay marriage or being pro-business.

Billy Graham must mean vote for the Liberal.

sharrona
layton, UT

RE: Kevin J. Kirkham The non-LDS 150 years ago voted in biblical values when they voted to outlaw polygamy Biblical values".

(1 Cor 10:29 NLT) It might not be a matter of conscience for you, but it is for the other person. For why should my freedom be limited by what someone else thinks?
The exercise of one’s faith personal freedom is governed by whether it will be bring glory to God whether it will build up the church of God and whether it will encourage the unsaved to receive Christ as Savior and Lord. (vv 31-33).

A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of One wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach. Let the deacons be the husbands of One wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.(1Tim, 2 3:12) Not N.T.Biblical values.

David Jeremiah met with Billy Graham after Mitt Romney and made it clear(Via Christian network)that Christians do not consider Mormon doctrine Christian but share Biblical values and religious freedom.

Brother Dave
Livermore, CA

God Bless Billy Graham!!

He Took a Stand for Biblical (Traditional) Values!!

We need more Biblical standards in our present society!!

Many have forgotten about and have disregarded the Scriptures and the Lord. It was "Predicted" in the Scriptures that this would happen: see 2 Timothy 3:1-7
as one example. There are many other Scriptural references.

Again: God Bless Billy Graham and his ministry for Taking a Stand!!

George
Bronx, NY

I do not think there has been a time in history when those that use their religion as a political platform have shown less moral or ethical behaviors then they do these days. I would ask that Billy work on cleaning up the religion he claims to care so much about before he tries to tell me what is or is not a moral life.

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

It is sad how so many religions and their leaders have thrown away any moral authority and leadership they may have once had. I once had great respect for Billy Graham but even his statements now ring hollow in my ears.

Kevin J. Kirkham
Salt Lake City, UT

sharrona
RE: Kevin J. Kirkham The non-LDS 150 years ago voted in biblical values when they voted to outlaw polygamy Biblical values".

(1 Cor 10:29 NLT) It might not be a matter of conscience for you, but it is for the other person. For why should my freedom be limited by what someone else thinks?
The exercise of one’s faith personal freedom is governed by whether it will be bring glory to God whether it will build up the church of God and whether it will encourage the unsaved to receive Christ as Savior and Lord. (vv 31-33).

KJK
So it's OK for Christians to limit another's freedom if the Christian thinks it brings glory to God but wrong if an unbeliever limits the Christian's freedom because they think doing so honors their own god? Isn't that "do as i say and not as I do"? Can you say hypocrisy? Isn't your position a green light for having a theocracy that limits the freedom of others that Christians find offensive? No wonder many liberals fear a Christian Taliban.

Furry1993
Ogden, UT

TO LDS Liberal 3:37 p.m. Nov. 1, 2012

. . .
Follow the Savior who taught us to;

Heal the sick
Feed the hungry
Clothe the naked
House the homeless
Provide for the widows and the children
Never START wars
Forgive and include everyone - esspecially the sinners
Punish the rich who do not give freely
Willing pay your taxes

. . .

Exactly right. Those are the Biblical values that a lot of people seem to lose track of. As said in Matthew 25:37-40:

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

sharrona
layton, UT

RE: LDS Liberal Jesus never once mentioned abortion, gay marriage. Wrong,

(Jesus)… Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least (*elachistos) of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me(Mt 25:40) *least in size, a baby. This verse is also applicable to Abortion today .

(Jesus) ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh (’Mt 19:5)

The Fifth Commandment ,Exodus 20:12 "Honor your father and your mother[not Mothers or significant others], so that you may live long in the land the LORD(Jehovah) your God(Elohim) is giving you.

The LORD(Jehovah) had said to Abram,…I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.”(Genesis 12:3)
Christians should support Israel.

Wally West
SLC, UT

re: LDS Liberal 3:37 p.m. Nov. 1, 2012

"Billy Graham must mean vote for the Liberal."

BG is a registered Democrat.

TracyM
ithaca, NY

With other commentators, I am in deep doubt that this is really the work of Billy Graham. This has his son Franklin's fingerprints all over it. Billy refused to join the Moral Majority and claimed to have regretted his earlier intanglement with politics. When asked recently if Billy could be interviewed by a New York Times reporter, Franklin said, "that is never going to happen." I believe Franklin, and others in the BGEA are using Billy, putting words in his mouth and publishing his photo. Billy is 94 years old and has suffered from Parkinson's for years. If not, they should let him speak with reporters. Otherwise, I will continue to believe this is a shameful lie.

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