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Billy Graham political newspaper ad campaign: 'Vote for biblical values'

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  • Admiring Gentile Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 8:44 p.m.

    Love is a Bliblical value that applies to all periods of time.

    Stoning your children to death if they talk back to you is . . . well maybe that one is best left to the ancients.

    There's no such thing as blanket "Biblical values." Fundamentailists might say we don't get to pick and choose what we like in the Bible and ignore the rest. But can you imagine what our lives would be if we didn't. (All those dead children, for one.)

    We must pick and choose what, from the Bible (and from other places), resonates with the spirit within, which God gave us. Otherwise, we can never hear what God tells us.

    I agree with Billy Graham that it would be great if we turned back to God. But again, that journey can only be done by turning inward. It can't be done by "voting for Biblical values," because that's not only impossible--but meaningless.

  • jttheawesome Scranton, PA
    Nov. 4, 2012 6:36 p.m.

    When one sees the term, "Biblical Values," a lot of moral ground is covered. In the Judeo-Christian world - a huge chunk of American population - It is not difficult to understand that this includes the time-honored basic values of sexual morality, within a marriage between one man and one woman; it includes honesty and integrity in all one's dealings; it includes being decent and kind, caring for those undergoing severe suffering for whatever reason. Quite simply, using the Ten Commandments as a basis for all our behavior and attitudes, as well as the example set by Jesus, will benefit all of us, even if one does not consider himself religious or a person of faith. Billy Graham has asked us all to consider candidates for public office to be measured by these standards, and to vote for those who best represent these qualities. Those who are otherwise preoccupied with their own private agenda, who care not at all for others, who consider political activity as a means to accomplish their own ends, no matter the cost, have no place in public office.

  • TracyM ithaca, NY
    Nov. 3, 2012 1:30 p.m.

    With other commentators, I am in deep doubt that this is really the work of Billy Graham. This has his son Franklin's fingerprints all over it. Billy refused to join the Moral Majority and claimed to have regretted his earlier intanglement with politics. When asked recently if Billy could be interviewed by a New York Times reporter, Franklin said, "that is never going to happen." I believe Franklin, and others in the BGEA are using Billy, putting words in his mouth and publishing his photo. Billy is 94 years old and has suffered from Parkinson's for years. If not, they should let him speak with reporters. Otherwise, I will continue to believe this is a shameful lie.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 8:13 p.m.

    re: LDS Liberal 3:37 p.m. Nov. 1, 2012

    "Billy Graham must mean vote for the Liberal."

    BG is a registered Democrat.

  • sharrona layton, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 9:16 a.m.

    RE: LDS Liberal Jesus never once mentioned abortion, gay marriage. Wrong,

    (Jesus)… Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least (*elachistos) of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me(Mt 25:40) *least in size, a baby. This verse is also applicable to Abortion today .

    (Jesus) ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh (’Mt 19:5)

    The Fifth Commandment ,Exodus 20:12 "Honor your father and your mother[not Mothers or significant others], so that you may live long in the land the LORD(Jehovah) your God(Elohim) is giving you.

    The LORD(Jehovah) had said to Abram,…I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.”(Genesis 12:3)
    Christians should support Israel.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 6:46 a.m.

    TO LDS Liberal 3:37 p.m. Nov. 1, 2012

    . . .
    Follow the Savior who taught us to;

    Heal the sick
    Feed the hungry
    Clothe the naked
    House the homeless
    Provide for the widows and the children
    Never START wars
    Forgive and include everyone - esspecially the sinners
    Punish the rich who do not give freely
    Willing pay your taxes

    . . .

    Exactly right. Those are the Biblical values that a lot of people seem to lose track of. As said in Matthew 25:37-40:

    37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

    38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

    39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

    40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

  • Kevin J. Kirkham Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 10:30 p.m.

    sharrona
    RE: Kevin J. Kirkham The non-LDS 150 years ago voted in biblical values when they voted to outlaw polygamy Biblical values".

    (1 Cor 10:29 NLT) It might not be a matter of conscience for you, but it is for the other person. For why should my freedom be limited by what someone else thinks?
    The exercise of one’s faith personal freedom is governed by whether it will be bring glory to God whether it will build up the church of God and whether it will encourage the unsaved to receive Christ as Savior and Lord. (vv 31-33).

    KJK
    So it's OK for Christians to limit another's freedom if the Christian thinks it brings glory to God but wrong if an unbeliever limits the Christian's freedom because they think doing so honors their own god? Isn't that "do as i say and not as I do"? Can you say hypocrisy? Isn't your position a green light for having a theocracy that limits the freedom of others that Christians find offensive? No wonder many liberals fear a Christian Taliban.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 8:35 p.m.

    It is sad how so many religions and their leaders have thrown away any moral authority and leadership they may have once had. I once had great respect for Billy Graham but even his statements now ring hollow in my ears.

  • George Bronx, NY
    Nov. 1, 2012 8:10 p.m.

    I do not think there has been a time in history when those that use their religion as a political platform have shown less moral or ethical behaviors then they do these days. I would ask that Billy work on cleaning up the religion he claims to care so much about before he tries to tell me what is or is not a moral life.

  • Brother Dave Livermore, CA
    Nov. 1, 2012 5:45 p.m.

    God Bless Billy Graham!!

    He Took a Stand for Biblical (Traditional) Values!!

    We need more Biblical standards in our present society!!

    Many have forgotten about and have disregarded the Scriptures and the Lord. It was "Predicted" in the Scriptures that this would happen: see 2 Timothy 3:1-7
    as one example. There are many other Scriptural references.

    Again: God Bless Billy Graham and his ministry for Taking a Stand!!

  • sharrona layton, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 4:20 p.m.

    RE: Kevin J. Kirkham The non-LDS 150 years ago voted in biblical values when they voted to outlaw polygamy Biblical values".

    (1 Cor 10:29 NLT) It might not be a matter of conscience for you, but it is for the other person. For why should my freedom be limited by what someone else thinks?
    The exercise of one’s faith personal freedom is governed by whether it will be bring glory to God whether it will build up the church of God and whether it will encourage the unsaved to receive Christ as Savior and Lord. (vv 31-33).

    A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of One wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach. Let the deacons be the husbands of One wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.(1Tim, 2 3:12) Not N.T.Biblical values.

    David Jeremiah met with Billy Graham after Mitt Romney and made it clear(Via Christian network)that Christians do not consider Mormon doctrine Christian but share Biblical values and religious freedom.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 3:37 p.m.

    Pick and choose WHICH values we should go back to...

    Slavery
    Polygamy
    Stonings
    Eye for and Eye?

    or
    Follow the Savior who taught us to;

    Heal the sick
    Feed the hungry
    Clothe the naked
    House the homeless
    Provide for the widows and the children
    Never START wars
    Forgive and include everyone - esspecially the sinners
    Punish the rich who do not give freely
    Willing pay your taxes

    Jesus never once mentioned abortion, gay marriage or being pro-business.

    Billy Graham must mean vote for the Liberal.

  • Grundle West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 2:20 p.m.

    The problem with any discussion about values, biblical, moral, or other, is that we all have differing values.

    So...It comes down to the individuals to judge. No one candidate, party, or religion, embodies all the values exactly as we see them so we compromise. We make the best choice between good, better, or best.

    Billy Graham is simply reminding us of what values he finds most important. Some of the posters in this forum would like to paint the picture that a failure to enumerate a particular value implies an opposition to that value. This is, of course, a foolish conclusion.

    In this election, it is my opinion that the values I am most concerned about have been put aside in favor of values I am less concerned about.

    That is why I am supporting Mitt Romney and the Republican caucus in this election.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 1:40 p.m.

    People have to take a stand. It doesn't make any difference in philosophy whether it was written by one person or another. The message is the same. Over the years, Billy Graham has taught of peace and peace comes by listening to God's message.

    Mike Huckabee is a strict politician even though he may have Minister or Reverend by his name. That is a big difference than Billy Graham. He was very adamant against Mitt Romney in 2007 and 2008 in so many bad ways.

    The East of Utah that voted against the state entering the union and included polyamy, was politics and not just religion. That was a way to keep a state with a religion tied to it that the Federal Government was in charge. The LDS religion is a life style and with familiy ties. The East still considers the West in a different realm than the rest of the United States of America.

    Again, people know what is meant in the heart or soul what Billy Graham or his son is talking about.

    Politics and religion, even in Utah are about a hair width apart. Values, whether political or religious are in the same line.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 1, 2012 1:26 p.m.

    The problem is biblical or Christian values are broad and diverse. Absolutely the bible lashes out against immorality. I think we have seen plenty of that from both parties. The scriptures talk about the family, and the divine nature of it, and there the Republicans have and edge.

    But take for example of the story that was shown on ESPN last week of a Chicago kid who broke his neck during a basketball game for his school For a few years, the schools insurance company took good care of him, until they decided they had paid enough. The boy came from a lower middle class family, and so within 18 months of the insurance company cutting him off, he passed away from complications that had been kept under control by available medication.

    What biblical value or principle is it that says abortion is wrong, but sending a 20 something year old to their death because they can't afford the needed medication is morally ok? If you are pro-life, you would think that would include 20 year olds as well as the unborn. Neither side had the high ground here.... Not Romney, Nor Obama.

  • IndependentLiberal Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 1:05 p.m.

    He refused to join Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority in 1979, saying: "I'm for morality, but morality goes beyond sex to human freedom and social justice. We as clergy know so very little to speak with authority on the Panama Canal or superiority of armaments. Evangelists cannot be closely identified with any particular party or person. We have to stand in the middle in order to preach to all people, right and left. I haven't been faithful to my own advice in the past. I will be in the future."

  • IndependentLiberal Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 1:04 p.m.

    I can say unequivocally based on a half century of listening to, reading, and watching Billy Graham on TV, He never made the statement quoted in this article. This just too blatant of political pandering to be believable and is undoubtedly concocted by his son. I have watched Franklin over the years and that acorn fell a great distance from the mighty oak. Billy’s message was so simple, come to Jesus, that’s all that is important. He prayed with Richard Nixon, bailed Martin Luther King out of jail, and was the first Evangelist to preach behind the Iron Curtin. He had no political agenda! Shame on you Franklin!

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 12:47 p.m.

    So Biblical values, like Utah values, all depend upon who is enumerating the values?

    Does that actually provide any assurance that those values actually have any value?

    Utah Values, like Biblical Values seem to be pretty darned elusive these days.

  • Kevin J. Kirkham Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 12:43 p.m.

    The non-LDS 150 years ago voted in biblical values when they voted to outlaw polygamy and persecute the LDS that did. Since we LDS have another take on the Bible than others, we should be careful about promoting "biblical values". It bit us in the past and could in the future. 1 Cor. 10:29 denouces the use of subjective moral ideas to infringe upon the rights and liberties of others.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 12:28 p.m.

    What about mikes latest fearmongering or threat for religious folks?

    Mike Huckabee warns Christians by stating “their votes are recorded in eternity.” He says voting for the wrong person, we know who, Obama and you’ll be faced with the wrath of God. At the end of the video ad, he says; your vote will affect the future and be recorded in eternity, will you vote the values that will stand the test of fire?

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 12:27 p.m.

    Billy Graham knows the impact when people don't live God's commandments that were given to help people in their lives. The message is true today as it was in ancient times, for all faiths and religions. The term biblical values could better be said as traditional values and family type values.

    Whatever one wants to disagree with on the terminology, God gave us a conscience to help us know what is right and wrong and you can even say you have an impression, I feel it in my heart, I know it is right or even wrong and we all have that within us.

    Billy Graham has spent his lifetime trying to persuade people to listen and feel that Spirit. He even is sending this message today for those that want to listen.

    It is not mandatory that people listen, but Billy Graham is doing what he is impressed to do for those he loves and cares for, even our country, the United States of America.

    What a blessing to live in a country that can have individuals and organizations spread the word they have taught for their lifetime.

    Today is great for people to vote and Tuesday.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 12:08 p.m.

    I sincerely doubt that most American women want to return to the "biblical" definition of marriage.