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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 30 2012 10:21 p.m. MDT

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huffyboy99
heriman, UT

This is actually pretty funny. I am about 98% sure I know who this "fake" emailer is, partly because I am pretty sure he was bragging about it on Facebook. One thing is for sure he is a disgruntled democrat and as far as I know is not a part of either campaign.

Either way the email brings up a good point, who does Jim Matheson side with? Obama or Romney? Who is he going to vote for?

bricha
lehi, ut

Elaine Douglass:

Putting everything else aside the thing that bothers me about Matheson is while campaigning he does everything he can to distance himself from the Democrat party saying he is an "Independent" vote for Utah. If he dislikes what the Democratic party stands for so much why doesn't he run as an Independent?

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

What does that say about the Democrats when Matheson wants to disassociate himself from them?

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

Just to set the record straight: should the presidential vote be thrown to the House, each state has one vote. Each state's vote is determined by the how the members of that delegation each vote. Republicans hold the House based on the fact that they have a majority of the members, but whether they control the majority of the delegations at this point, I'm not sure. That is how it would be determined.

play by the rules
SOUTH JORDAN, UT

Great points made about Matheson distancing himself from his party. If he hates his party why does he allow them to spend millions in his race. The Democrat Congressional Committee has spent a lot of money on RINO ads.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Has Mia Love had an independent thought this entire campaign or is she just another mindless tea party drone who will do whatever Ryan or Cantor tells her to do?

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@DarkKnightLight
If it were 269-269 each state's house delegation gets one vote. Since there would be three Republicans and one Matheson (if he wins) Utah's vote would go to Romney since it'd be 3-1. It's the senate where they each get their own vote.

TD0330
Kearns, UT

Teplarblue is right! The Utah way is to not think for yourself and bloc vote. Just look for the elephant and vote straiight party, it is so much easier that way. How dare the demoocrats try to support the impoverished, disabled and needy with my tax dollars. I already pay a full tithe and an honest fast offering!

dwayne
Provo, UT

I M LDS 2,

"Matheson is running for Congress, NOT a delegate for the electoral college. He is under NO obligation to reveal who he "supports" for President. He will vote his conscience for President, just as we all should"

Jim Matheson is running for Congress which is the LEGISLATIVE BODY that will decide who is President should the electoral college be a tie which is possible. So who Jim Matheson will vote for is important since he may get two votes on who is President and ultimately help to determine who the President is

"That she is a novice is patently evident. She has no clue what she is doing"

Good for her. We need more novices in D.C. The question Utahns should ask is "if Barack Obama and Mitt Romney tie and your representative gets a vote on who should be President would you want Matheson who hasn't endorsed anyone or Mia Love who clearly supports Mitt Romney deciding who the President is?

I'm glad she has no clue what she's doing.

We have a right to know who Matheson supports for President since he may get two votes

dwayne
Provo, UT

atl134,

"Since there would be three Republicans and one Matheson (if he wins) Utah's vote would go to Romney since it'd be 3-1. It's the senate where they each get their own vote."

The genius of our system is also the reason your claim that "Utah's vote would go to Romney since it'd be 3-1." Explaining this concisely is impossible but I will attempt to do so and let others know that you are being deceptive. A quorum for purposes of choosing a President under this fail-safe is one or more representative from 2/3rds (34) states and the required vote for a choice is a majority of the states (26)

In other words, the U.S. President can be chosen by as few as 26 representatives from 34 states and only one representative needs to be present for a vote by that state to count

You aren't able to foresee the future or know what might happen between now and then. For all you know Chaffetz could die and Lee go to prison and Bishop and Matheson refusing to unanimously decide could have different results. There are limitless possibilities

dwayne
Provo, UT

Makid,

"Even if there is a tie DarkKnightLight, the Democrats won't pick up enough seats in the House to retake it, that means it would go for Romney in the House"

Ignorance is no excuse. Democrats wouldn't have to pick up enough seats to re-take the House. Even close races in some states, deaths of elected representatives, arrests and inability to be present due to illnesses could drastically alter the outcome of a vote. There is no excuse to vote for someone based on the opinion that they may not have the clout to sway the a House vote under those circumstances.

Under extreme circumstances a Democratic minority could either wrest control of the House from an elected Republican majority or sway the outcome of a House vote on the Presidency by preventing one or more representatives from being seated and expelling others.

"The House is a majority rule legislative body."

No its not a majority rule body and your ignorance of this means we would be wasting time trying to educate you on the Constitution and our system of government. No offense intended but you need a remedial course in the Constitution and our government

I M LDS 2
Provo, UT

Dwayne wrote:

"No its not a majority rule body and your ignorance of this means we would be wasting time trying to educate you on the Constitution and our system of government. No offense intended but you need a remedial course in the Constitution and our government."

Please educate us how legislation is passed in the House of Representatives. Majority? Two thirds? Perfect consensus? 80%? What is it?

aComment
Centerville, UT

A missed opportunity to do investigative reporting instead of a gossip column.

A gossip column reports what he said and she said. An investigative reporter would have looked into which of the two is right.

A Matheson staffer said that it is clear from online traffic that the Love campaign must have started it?? No matter what the source of the email, it is one that the Love campaign would be far more likely to talk about than the Matheson campaign, so that's an irrelvant observation unless there is some metric besides volume that implicates the Love campaign. Couldn't the reporter have looked into those methods?

One commenter claims to be 98% sure of who did it based on Facebook bragging. Too bad a commenter did more homework than a reporter.

alternate
Salt Lake City, UT

After all the trash sent out by Matheson, frankly, I don't believe him. I don't believe he can be trusted. It is a sad commentary on Utah that a person holding a key Utah positon is nothing more than a trashman come election time. If he does win, he will win again because everyone will be afraid to go against him because of the trash that he will throw at them.

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