After all the trash sent out by Matheson, frankly, I don't believe him. I
don't believe he can be trusted. It is a sad commentary on Utah that a
person holding a key Utah positon is nothing more than a trashman come election
time. If he does win, he will win again because everyone will be afraid to go
against him because of the trash that he will throw at them.
A missed opportunity to do investigative reporting instead of a gossip
column.A gossip column reports what he said and she said. An
investigative reporter would have looked into which of the two is right.A Matheson staffer said that it is clear from online traffic that the
Love campaign must have started it?? No matter what the source of the email, it
is one that the Love campaign would be far more likely to talk about than the
Matheson campaign, so that's an irrelvant observation unless there is some
metric besides volume that implicates the Love campaign. Couldn't the
reporter have looked into those methods?One commenter claims to be
98% sure of who did it based on Facebook bragging. Too bad a commenter did more
homework than a reporter.
Dwayne wrote:"No its not a majority rule body and your ignorance
of this means we would be wasting time trying to educate you on the Constitution
and our system of government. No offense intended but you need a remedial course
in the Constitution and our government."Please educate us how
legislation is passed in the House of Representatives. Majority? Two thirds?
Perfect consensus? 80%? What is it?
Teplarblue is right! The Utah way is to not think for yourself and bloc vote.
Just look for the elephant and vote straiight party, it is so much easier that
way. How dare the demoocrats try to support the impoverished, disabled and needy
with my tax dollars. I already pay a full tithe and an honest fast offering!
@DarkKnightLightIf it were 269-269 each state's house delegation gets
one vote. Since there would be three Republicans and one Matheson (if he wins)
Utah's vote would go to Romney since it'd be 3-1. It's the senate
where they each get their own vote.
Has Mia Love had an independent thought this entire campaign or is she just
another mindless tea party drone who will do whatever Ryan or Cantor tells her
Great points made about Matheson distancing himself from his party. If he hates
his party why does he allow them to spend millions in his race. The Democrat
Congressional Committee has spent a lot of money on RINO ads.
Just to set the record straight: should the presidential vote be thrown to the
House, each state has one vote. Each state's vote is determined by the how
the members of that delegation each vote. Republicans hold the House based on
the fact that they have a majority of the members, but whether they control the
majority of the delegations at this point, I'm not sure. That is how it
would be determined.
What does that say about the Democrats when Matheson wants to disassociate
himself from them?
Elaine Douglass: Putting everything else aside the thing that
bothers me about Matheson is while campaigning he does everything he can to
distance himself from the Democrat party saying he is an "Independent"
vote for Utah. If he dislikes what the Democratic party stands for so much why
doesn't he run as an Independent?
This is actually pretty funny. I am about 98% sure I know who this
"fake" emailer is, partly because I am pretty sure he was bragging about
it on Facebook. One thing is for sure he is a disgruntled democrat and as far as
I know is not a part of either campaign. Either way the email brings
up a good point, who does Jim Matheson side with? Obama or Romney? Who is he
going to vote for?
Happy Valley Heretic you completely missed the premise of my comment. Far be it
from me to try and teach anything to a Lib! My point is this. When it comes
right down to the brass tacks, if the vote matters he will vote Democrat. If it
doesn't matter, he will vote his own conscience. He has shown this time and
time again. Bottom line: Voting Democrat is not the Utah way!
Even if there is a tie DarkKnightLight, the Democrats won't pick up enough
seats in the House to retake it, that means it would go for Romney in the House
and Biden in the Senate.For those that think Voting for Mitt means
you have to vote for Mia this is wrong. We can have a Republican president and
still have 1 representative in the House that is a Democrat from Utah.The House is a majority rule legislative body. That means that since the
Republicans will maintain a majority already, voting for Mia is a waste of a
vote since she will toe the party line and won't work with the other side
to actually balance the budget. Yet, a vote for Matheson will be a vote for
fixing Washington to make sure it works together to pass legislation that
benefits all citizens and not one group over another.Without equal
representation from both sides, we will slide one way or the other while making
only slight progress forward. Think of government as a tightrope walker, lean
to far 1 way or the other and you might fall, causing problems for the country
as a whole.
DarkKnightLight said: Here is a hypothetical for you. Civic lessons
weren't your strong point were they?This is prime example of
uninformed folks passing on an email as fact, without even bothering to make a
phone call and commenters above who pass on such email like the continued flow
of Fake or outright lies about Obama that I have gotten for weeks now and some
above have posted as fact only to be proven wrong again. Then some actually try
and spin this as Matheson being sneaky? Paranoia drives the republican party.Jim represents most of Utah, The republicans represent the GOP and then
the extreme right of Utah, then the citizens of Utah, Jim has less handlers to
Here is a hypothetical for you. Suppose the electoral college were tied 269 for
Mitt and 269 for Obama. UTAH Congressman Jim Matheson is the deciding vote on
who goes to the White House. Who is he going to vote for? Obama! Heaven help us!
Vote Mia Love for Congress!
Matheson is running for Congress, NOT a delegate for the electoral college. He
is under NO obligation to reveal who he "supports" for President. He
will vote his conscience for President, just as we all should.Matheson has been a reliable, solid representative of the people of the State
of Utah, positioning himself thoughtfully above and independent from the
partisan politics that is ruining this country. He has a solid track record of
integrity, above-board campaigns, and political competence. He knows what he is
doing, and does NOT play partisan games.By contrast, Mia Love's
campaign has smelt fishy from the get go. There has been nothing but controversy
since she entered the race. Her campaign ads and speeches are warmed up Tea
Party buzzwords and overly general rhetoric that verges on lies ("Matheson
supports continued spending on Obamacare and pork barrel bills..."?). That
she is a novice is patently evident. She has no clue what she is doing, and is
being told what to do and say by the highly partisan Utah GOP "handlers"
who are trying to exploit her "novelty" characteristics.My
vote would be for Matheson.
I know for a fact that Jim Matheson has already voted, so he has made up his
In Utah, there's not a whole lot we can do to help Mitt Romney. One thing
we can do is to elect Mia Love and send Jim Matheson packing. That's the best thing we can do to make a difference on the national
I spent much of my life as a Capitol Hill staffer. I know how things work in
Washington. Jim Matheson has been playing games between his Democrat leadership
and his conservative constituents for years. Don't let him do it any more.
Let's get a Member of Congress that actually shares the same
values as her constituents and isn't trying to constantly play games to
fool them.Anyone who votes for Mitt Romney and Jim Matheson clearly
doesn't get it. It's time for Matheson to go.
Thank you, BYUalum for your experience you had directly with the Congressman who
represents you or at least represented you. That does relate to this article.
You can show the kind of results or performance of this man who sits on the
fence, a lot of time. The 4th Congressional District doesn't
need more of the same. He is seasoned and knows exactly what he is doing in his
office he is elected to. He chose to go to the 4th Congressional District when
he doesn't even live there. Sort of like the vote on Obamacare. If he
really wanted to Represent the 4th District, he would have moved there.
Instead, he is sitting on the fence, once again. Hopefully, Mia
Love, who must have conviction of what she is doing to put up with this kind of
publicity and intrusion into her life. She is made of strong stuff and not just
politics as Congressman Matheson has. He changes with every wind of doctrine or
who is in charge. He has done some good things but to be so
negative after being pretty nice in campaigns over 12 years, something is under
his fingernails, not bamboo. Mia.
One more reason for overturning Citizens United and clamping down on campaign
financing with some very strong laws.We have to get MONEY out of
Matheson doesn't steer an independent course. He is an elected Democrat
that lives in Utah and has been elected 6 times because of his Dad's good
name. That name got blemished when the Pelosi Speaker of the House got to touch
Matheson's decisions in all and everyway. She is the power person and Jim
Matheson is a politician. Even Judges are politicians in their actions, just
not elected as a politician in a lot of cases.Jim Matheson has an
opponent that is not a politician but knows you can't straddle the fence
due to the inability to make decisions. She makes decisions and then gets
faulted on those. That is why most politicians don't make life changing
decisions, because they are afraid to do that. They vote, except for the
President who gets hall passes during the voting time, whether in Illinois or as
a U.S. Senator.Mia Love has the ability to stand up to Matheson as
she knows how our country got freedom from Britain. It was not an easy fight
but the people that moved to the United States of America in most cases have
inner strength and courage, fighters.
The only way a Democrat can get elected in Utah is to talk like a Republican.
If Matheson were really as conservative and independent as he claims, he
wouldn't be a Democrat.BYUalum is right. Matheson has been
trying to straddle to fence his whole career and has done a good job of fooling
his constituents. Now he's running scared.
I'd really like a clear answer to the question. Who does Jim Matheson
support for president?
Someone fed a fake email to the Love campaign. Why? It DIDN'T come from the
Love camp. If it didn't come from the Matheson camp, WHOo had a reason to
send it?No one at the Love campaign made it up. That is
pretty clear. If the Matheson camp is using this to make the Love camp look bad,
it only makes them look bad as if they are behind the fake email.Curious.
The earlier comment from BYUalum has nothing to do with what is in the current
article. This is more of the same negative rhetoric from the Love campaign.
What the article pointed out is that the Love campaign got caught sending out
false information about Matheson and it is backtracking as fast as possible.
Too bad other news media are not giving this story attention like the Deseret
Call Matheson's office today and ask who he is going to vote for and they
will tell you he hasn't made up his mind. The exact same answer he gave
right up until the vote for Obamacare. Leaders lead. They do not stick their
hand in the air to see which way the wind is blowing. I pulled the lever for
Mia as did my wife.
I will vote for Jim Matheson.As for BYUalum's opinion that Jim
Matheson "listens to what is needed by the Democratic party," BY
isn't in this world if he thinks Matheson could stay in office in Utah by
listening to the Democratic party. There's a reason Jim Matheson has been
re-elected 6 times to represent Utah in Congress: he steers an independent
course and does what he thinks is best for our state. That's how it appears
to me. And that is whyI will vote for Jim Matheson.
It's interesting that this story goes on and on about an email, but never
answers the question of who and what Matheson supports.That should
be the story.
I will use my junior high logic on this dirty political stunt. The one who smelt
it delt it. I'm crying foul on the Love campaign. It reeks of the type of
campaign adds she has run.
I will vote for Mia Love.When I called Matheson's office for
three solid weeks before Obamacare was passed by the House, I was told by his
staff that Jim Matheson hadn't decided how he was going to vote on the
bill. I kept calling until the day of the vote and received the same answer.When
he was told that the Democrats didn't need his vote to pass it, he voted
against Obamacare. Don't believe his ads. He goes the direction of the wind
and listens to what is needed by the Democratic party. I call it "snake in
the grass" politics. We need Mia Love for Romney to count on in Washington
to get this stuff repealed. I will vote for Mia Love! and Mitt
Romney & Paul Ryan. A good team.