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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 30 2012 10:20 a.m. MDT

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

"byu has a tough time recruiting top defensive back talent"

Why?

Interesting. I've said the same thing many times and byu fans try to dismiss this and pretend its not true.

Good choice by Davion.

As soon as somoene clues Trent into what Provo life is truly like(no parties, girlfriends, no normal college experience) he'll be using that talented speed he has to run north 30 miles to Utah.

I wonder if Davion's decision had something to do with Utah's inclusion in a real conference?

Or the fact that every single graduating class of the last 8 years has won a BCS game?

I guess winning BCS games was more enticing than winning WAC championships.

Go figure.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Question for byu fans:

How many times do we see kids commit to Utah and then change their minds to byu?

Very very rarely.

How many times do we see kids originally big fans of Utah switch to byu?

same answer.

We've seen with examples like Chace Hansen, Zach Lindsay, Vaha Vainuku switching allegience from blue to red that the future of football in Utah,

is Utah.

RockOn
Spanish Fork, UT

Josh Sharp, Craig Cusick don't agree with you.

And, it is to be expected that if one school has tighter, tougher standards it will attract fewer people. Many hormonally challenged kids with no thought for the future will always gravitate to places where they can get drunk, laid and mess with drugs. U of U, by your description, seems a better fit. That's fine with me. BYU will take those with a greater desire for education and morality than an extension of being a high school jock.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Chris B ...

You won't see Trammel changing his commitment to Utah. Utah quit recruiting him before his commitment to BYU. Why that is I don't know. Before every BYU homer jumps on that comment I'll be the first to say it may have been because they knew he was leaning to the Y ... again, I don't know. But it does seem clear that Utah no longer has any interest.

RockOn ...

Interesting take. Also interesting that so many parents that come with their kids on recruiting visits to Utah walk away saying what a good, clean environment Utah presents and what a great family atmosphere it is.
But that's okay, say what you want ... we all know your venom comes from jealousy.

jdub1942
PROVO, UT

RockOn,

"Many hormonally challenged kids with no thought for the future will always gravitate to places where they can get drunk, laid and mess with drugs. U of U, by your description, seems a better fit."

Come on Man! You're view from the bubble is seriously warped.

As a Utah fan, living in Provo, its cool that this kid from CA decided to make his own opinions, unlike some of my fellow fans, so good get from you guys. As far as Utah stealing a recruit from TDS, Meh, who cares I'd rather steal from our competitors.

showmeyatd's
Pleasant View, Utah

Davion switched to play with his cousin. I would do the same if I were in his shoes.

Utah will always have the upper hand in corner talent. Any honest BYU fan can admit that. The fact is though BYU has done a better job recruiting the right jc corners that are athletic. The 2012 BYU defense doesn't look like say the 2007 or 2008. Team speed is much better. Trammel looks to be a great fit in continuing what we have this year. He and Johnson will keep the corners locked down. Now the real question is will BYU allow taysom to throw the ball next year. Cause if they put up points, broncos D will do its part and manage points.

BlueCoug
Orem, UT

motorbike

"interesting that so many parents that come with their kids on recruiting visits to Utah walk away saying what a good, clean environment Utah presents and what a great family atmosphere it is."

Obviously those parents haven't sat in the middle of the MUSS on game day or been to a Utah frat party.

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chris b

"How many times do we see kids commit to Utah and then change their minds to BYU?

Harvey Unga and Josh Sharp, to name just a couple.

BYU is unique and isn't for everybody, but, then again, neither is Utah.

BYU and Utah only go head-to-head for small number of recruits each year, so the real challenge for U is convincing recruits that Utah is a better place for them than USC, UCLA, Oregon, etc.

So. Cal Reader
San Diego, CA

Too funny of an article. I don't think I've ever seen such a long article about an unoffice "commit" who still has a chance to decommit. When will the DN Sports Staff start the Heisman Trophy talk for this guy! Looks like a bye-week article for sure. Too funny.

Disgruntled
Nephi, UT

Chris B. finally emerges after weeks of silence. I predict another long period of silence starting in two weeks.

NT
Springville, UT

I usually only check the comments for the Ute trolls.

As usual, not disappointed.

Jake2010
bountiful, ut

Chris B when will you wake up and realize that you are tooting the horn of something that in well less than 1000 days won't mean jack squat! In fact... It is now officially less than 800. The BCS corrupt system is dying an ignominious death and a look at the track record of its fabled poll this season proves just how dysfunctional of an elitist ball of rubbish it is. Oregon keeps getting jumped! Yes, you are in the BCS which officially dies in 2014. But even the BCS thinks VERY LITTLE about the little skunks of the Whacky 12. You lost 4 games in a row in that very conference. A win over a sub mediocre California squad is no reason to pound your chest... First beat Colorado and then ... Well, the Utes still haven't accomplished jack!

Just Me
Richfield, UT

I hate byu and yes they haven't recruited the best at db, BUT they have one of the best defenses this yearthat I've ever seen in the State of Utah history.

Just sayin'

adelman
provo, UT

LOL at BYU taking the "we're morally superior" route. Again. And I think the phrase "hormonally challenged" actually was used. Seriously? Just because a (NON-LDS) kid doesn't want to go to BYU, all of the sudden there is something physically wrong with this kid? He has worked hard and wants to experience college in a certain way, and he deserves to.

Anne26
West Jordan, UT

@Rockon: Please tell me you are joking. If not, please know your opinions do not represent most of the fans/students who root for or attend BYU. Funny thing, I have found the most arrogant BYU fans are usually those who never actually attended the school.

CG
Orem, UT

adelman

LOL at your "morally challenged" whining. Just because a BYU recruit and his parents are impressed with the very real difference between the BYU culture and the culture they see at most other colleges and universities, doesn't mean you have to feel "inferior".

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@anne26

And I've found the majority of utah "fans" really aren't fans at all. I notice you come around every time you think the morality of the university of utah is questioned, I'm not sure why. As a secular government owned school there is no moral code for that university, anyone can do anything they want there. Sleep around, drink, whatever, it all goes. No need to stick up for something that doesn't exist don't you think?

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

Why not? Academics are a gimme and there are no personal conduct standards. He will fit in well with the utes.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

If you are going for football then the U is hands down the best opportunity. Playing in the PAC 12 pretty much says it all. The Y has a nice campus experience no question for freshmen recruits but now that will change dramatically with the 18 year old missionary change. 18 year old freshmen young men at the Y is going to be a thing of the past going forward. BYU football is going to change ... for the worse I'm afraid if they continue to recruit heavily LDS young men. These high school grads are going to go on missions now which means your first look at them is going to at age 21 most likely after they have returned from their mission and then most likely red shirted a year after that. Tough situation. BYU would be better served to recruit more non lds kids like they used to during the Edwards years. You get the kid for 4 straight years right out of HS. Some of these kids convert to the church which is another plus.

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

If one kid changes their mind from Utah to BYU, we get accused of unethical activities, illegal recruiting, etc.

But when on kid changes their mind from BYU to Utah, it's because of Utah's superiority, PAC, etc.

BYU's not for everyone. Utah's not for everyone. Good luck Davion.

As long as BYU can continue to recruit DBs like Johnson, Hadley, Sampson, Sorensen and Bills we'll be fine. These are not the DB's of five or ten years ago. I'll take BYU defense this year over Utah's any day.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@RockOn
"Many hormonally challenged kids with no thought for the future will always gravitate to places where they can get drunk, laid and mess with drugs."

As someone who doesn't drink, get laid, or mess with drugs, I think I like being a Ute more than a Cougar for many reasons (for one the U is the only one of the two with my major) but one of them is so that I could avoid the self-righteous air of superiority enough BYU students have.

@Duckhunter
"As a secular government owned school there is no moral code for that university, anyone can do anything they want there. Sleep around, drink, whatever, it all goes."

Drinking is not allowed on campus. Regardless, I'm sorry that my school doesn't maintain the Christian-based Sharia law standard your preferred school has.

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