I am pleased to have been wrong about both BYU and Utah. Good win. Still
won't get you to a bowl game.
It is a good win, all wins are good wins.
Nice and a much needed win for the Utes. The PAC 12 is so tough to figure out
this year. If Utah plays like they did last night, they can run the table and
finish 7-5; don't kid your self.GO UTES>-->
Hey BYU fans! That's how you do a black out game! BYU should just stick
with their white game game. It makes more sense for them.
Spokane Ute"If Utah plays like they did last night, they can run
the table and finish 7-5..."Don't misunderstand, it was a
nice win for the Utes, but don't count on the Utes getting a
couple of 100-yard kickoff returns and a fumble recovery for a touchdown every
game. Cal had 100 yards more total offense than the Utes and without
those 21 easy points that Utah's offense had absolutely nothing to do with
producing, the Utes barely beat the Golden Bears 28-27.In other
words,don't kid yourself!7-5 is a reach; the Utes
will have to get lucky, AGAIN, just to break even and qualify for a bowl.
Hey lone star... I love the what if stuff and how it's negative. How about
we what if those two returns don't happen. Utah gets the ball on th 25 yard
line each time. And what if they drive and score a td each time. Guess what
that's still 14 pts and another 150 yards. Same score and Utah out gains.
To optimistic for you. Ok how about 2 field goals and only 100 yards. Utah wins
by a td and has about the same amt of yards. Ok still to optimistic for you.
How about if utah goes 3 and out and punts. Do you think the rest of the game is
played as conservatively or that the the d still takes it easy that last
quarter. See if you chg one play everything chgs after that play. All we know
for sure is the score board doesn't lie. Go Ute!!!!
@londestarRunnerto say, "if they didn't have those 21
points then they would have only won by 1 point!" is a joke. The fact is,
they scored those points, fare and square, Reggie Dunn is a player on the Utes
football team, he made a good play and so did his blockers. Just because it
doesn't count toward their offensive yardage, it doesn't mean that
they were lucky touchdowns. Same with the fumble return. Yes we
had less offensive yardage, aside from the fact that much of those Cal yards
were gained in the 4th quarter, had Reggie not run those two touchdowns back,
and had that fumble recovery not gone for a touchdown, you can't tell me
with a straight face the Utah would not have ended up with at least 100 yards of
additional offense.Try to think about both sides of the argument
before you post a ridiculous comment like that.and by the way, I
agree 7-5 is indeed a stretch.
Glad to see that we (I am a U of U alumnus) got a win in the PAC, but we are
still cellar dwellers. That could be different if we had not joined the PAC. As
long as we are in the PAC, all I see is cellar dwelling. Presently, Cal 2 and 5;
Utah and Colorado 1 and 4; and helpless power house Wash. State 0 and 5. I call
that dwelling in the cellar, and I am afraid we are simply going to have to get
used to it.
truetoU,reasonableUTEBurying your heads in the sand and pretending
that Utah demonstrated some sort of vast improvement in offense in beating Cal
won't help U beat Washington State, Washington, Arizona and Colorado. Utah
is 99th in passing offense, 109th in rushing offense, and 91st in scoring, and
Utah's offense didn't do anything against Cal that suggests
they're getting markedly better.Season versus Cal
ComparisonsPassing 193 vs 156 (-37)Rushing 114 vs 188 (+74)Total 307 vs 344 (+37)Scoring 24 vs 28 (+4) (scored by the offense)Feel free to present the "other side of the argument", but,
frankly, where's your evidence? You're only deluding
yourselves if you believe that the Utes are going to continue producing 21
points a game from turnovers and special teams the rest of the season.
Too much blood loss for the Crimson Bleeder to make rational judgments. Sad how
you beat a poor team and use it as a statement for another team. As a U grad,
just enjoy the win and don't tarnish it with pointless remarks.
@LonestarRunnerHow about reading what I post before jumping down my
throat huh? I said that I agreed with Utah going 7-5 this year being a stretch.
In those comparisons you conveniently left out the fact that Utah forced 3
turnovers and actually had some positive special teams plays. Are they going to
go 7-5? Maybe, but I don't think so. Did they do better this week than in
all previous weeks this season? Yes they did. Will they continue to make
improvements throughout this year? I believe they will.i'm not
sure what evidence you are talking about, i never made any statements other than
the facts that utah scored 49 points and not the 28 you seem to think we scored,
and I called you out for somehow thinking those points didn't count.Hypothetical thinking might make one feel better, but it's
Good win against a mediocre opponent. Plenty of work left to go bowling.
Colorado is a win, and maybe Washington State, but I'm not sure where the
6th win comes from. Washington and Arizona are not likely. That leaves the Utes
on the outside looking in, Maybe looking at a new offensive coordinator.
reasonableUTEThis is the first time all season that the Utes have
scored over 30 points against a D1-A defense.If you're counting
on turnovers to save your mediocre offense every game, get used to
Utes should beat WAZZU and CU but can they get UW or AZ to get that sixth win?
I'm not sure...
A lot of negativity from several BYU fans (what else would you expect?) and a
supposed Ute alumni. However, for relying on a true freshman quarterback who
entered the season as the #3 QB, Utah has played very competitively. The
increase in competition in the PAC 12 from the Mountain West is huge. Every PAC
12 team has the capability of competing with, and defeating, any other team in
the conference on any given day. Look at Arizona and Washington yesterday.
It's not like playing in the Mountain West or WAC, where there were always
5 or 6 automatic wins every year.Speaking of playing the WAC and
automatic wins, enjoy your last three thrilling games against three of the worst
teams in D1 football. Your 8-4 record will be inflated, as usual, and
we'll all have to hear about how your team is a top 25 team with such an
impressive record. If your team were playing in the PAC 12, they would be 4-8
when did I say I was counting on turnovers to win games? Even if I was
isn't that an integral part of winning games for every team??? I
don't know which utah fan was making remarks about other teams, but I for
one did, and will do no such thing.
Silly arguments above every game has plays that affect the outcome both made and
blown. It's pointless to argue what would have happened if something was
different when we all know what plays were made. If it was a close game, you
wouldn't have seen Star sitting out the 4th quarter either.I'm happy the Utes were finally able to put together a complete game.
They finished drives and put the ball in the endzone. They didn't make any
huge mistakes and the defense created some turnovers. Special teams was amazing
- Reggie Dunn was unbelievable.I think it's a stretch to think
they will win out but at least they can still play to make a bowl game. They
have been improving over the last few weeks especially Travis Wilson - I'm
impressed with his leadership taking full responsibility for turnovers and then
giving himself up to make an amazing block, I think the team seems to be
rallying behind him. I hope they can keep up the momentum and just
take one game at a time. There are no give me games in this conference.Go Utes!
Sorry to burst you crimson bubbles gored and QP, but if BYU was in the PAC 12,
they would have won the PAC South last season with wins over Colorado,
California and Arizona State; unlike Kyle, Bronco doesn't lose to bad teams
like 10-loss Colorado, 10-loss UNLV, New Mexico, Wyoming, and Colorado St.
@PAC Man ...You said, "..if BYU was in the PAC 12, they would
have won the PAC South last season..."And I can't help but
say:Hahahahahaha, ho, ho, ho, oh man, wait ... wait ... hahahaha, oh man
... hahahahahahahahaha! To funny, that's good stuff ... oh man. Wow, thank
you, I really needed that.
Is is that time of year already? BYU starts beating up on the back end of its
schedule and all of a sudden they would be contenders in the PAC-12.Maybe the Cougs should try being the best team in the state before claiming to
be one of the best in the West.
@PAC manYou say "If BYU was in the PAC 12, they would have won
the PAC South last season with wins over Colorado, California and Arizona
State" Exactly what are you basing this conjecture on?Your team has 4
losses and should have lost to Utah State, making int 5 losses. If it had a
decent November schedule, they would most likely lose 2 to 3 more, and most
likely ineligible to play in a bowl.Also, as I recall, your team did
lose to your rivals again for the 3rd year in a row.
Two For FlinchingNo, it's that time of year when Utah starts
beating up on the other PAC 12 bottom dwellers and all of a sudden they think
they're PAC 12 contenders.BYU beat Utah State which beat Utah
and the Utes will end up with the worst record in the state, obviously proving
that the Utes aren't anywhere close to being the best team anywhere.
goredBYU is three plays away from being 8-1, with a road win against
a team that's now a national championship contender.Without
BYU's mis-snapped scoop and score gift to U, the Utes would already have 6
losses and Utah's bowl chances would be on life support.
How is byu even relevant to any of this conversation? Kudos to Wilson for that
block and for playing a pretty good game. I do still stick to my pick of Hays
at QB, however, Wilson is developing nicely and looked very good. I nor most
fans of any team hardly agree with announcers when they say things, but this
time the PAC 12 announcers were right: Defense and special teams is what Utah
football is about and Saturday we brought that back. We have been
so worried about our offense doing better and being 'the best' that
everything kind of got put on hold. I can say one thing, I hope Shakey saw both
of Dunn's TD's. It showed great patience and what I saw in Dunn as a
freshman is finally coming back out again. Hopefully we can stay consistent
with this high and take it to the end of the season. Yes, Arizona and
Washington will be tough, but if we come out hard again and don't get
complacent, we can do it. Go Utes!
cedarcityute"How is BYU even relevant to any of this
conversation?"Utah fans are obsessed with their big brother. No
analysis of any Utah accomplishment is ever complete without a comparison to
BYU. It's what U do. It's engrained in your MUSS DNA.
Um, not what I do. Too bad this isn't like the trib comparison of this
article. It's nice hearing from the Utah fans their point of view of the
game and their opinion of what highlights were the best from the game. Also
note the byu fans that actually congratulate our team. That is what
real fans do, congratulate for success, not talk about their own program because
honestly Utah fans don't care. I'm proud that our team showed up and
kept it going. It was also nice to see our second and third string get reps as
well. Anyone know if York is going to be playing this next week?
SportsAuthorityI haven't seen anybody (who isn't a troll)
claim Utah is a PAC-12 contender this season. In fact the consensus among Ute
fans is that this is a rebuilding season.In this very thread though
we have seen a BYU fan say that the Cougs would be a contender in the PAC-12.
They can't beat the Utes, but for some reason that leads people to believe
they would fare better than the Utes. Makes perfect sense?
2fer"I haven't seen anybody (who isn't a troll) claim
Utah is a PAC-12 contender this season. In fact the consensus among Ute fans is
that this is a rebuilding season."That's not what Utah fans
were spouting at the beginning of the season, in fact, all the talk on the hill
was that Utah would likely finish 11-1 and would be fighting National
Championship contender USC to represent the PAC South in the PAC 12 championship
game. Not a single Utah fan even hinted at the beginning of the season that this
was going to be a rebuilding year for the Utes.LOL at your spin
@2ferscott is exactly right. You may be saying "recuilding
year" now but that was definately not what utah "fans" were claiming
all year leading into this season. You guys were claiming pac12 south title and
rose bowl, some were even saying undefeated. It is all on here in the off season
articles, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it. To pretend otherwise is
You're right, lots of fans thought this would be a great year (and it did
have potential) but we have gotten complacent in games which made us lose
unfortunately. Overall, I'm just hoping we lose some of the bandwagon fans
whom hopefully give up their season tickets to me :) I love my Utes, no matter
what happens. Things happen in the season and that is just how college football