Re: xert Santa Monica, CA"And yet--Obama will win Iowa. Book
it."And yet Romney will win the overall election. Book it.
And yet--Obama will win Iowa. Book it.
I'm curious about Pres. Obama supporters' opinions, at least on this
site. Specifically, what do you like about this administration? I remember the
appeal of Candidate Obama in 2008: restoration of normalcy, decency, restraint,
and the rule-of-law, both at home and abroad. Has he in any way met your
expectations? I'll cite a few specifics that I find particularly
disappointing:Number of prosections of Wall St. criminals = 0Number of prosecution of torturers/enablers = 0Number of meaningful
financial reform regulations = 0Number of insane wars in Afghanistan ended
= 0Number of large-scale alternative energy projects started = 0Number of high-speed national/regional rail projects started = 0Now, please, tell me, what's the appeal? In responding, please, please
don't refer to the killing of Osama Bin Laden or the bailout of GM. I have
heard those talking points, ad nauseum.(FWIW, I voted for Obama in
2008, but Rocky Anderson got my vote this year.)
Emajor,I see your abilities to twist and distort have not diminished one
iota. I was not referring to his critics who criticized his
policies, but to those who distorted his name to come up with a “childish,
disrespectful, and slightly insulting nickname” as you’ve indicted
the right for. I’ll ask again, since you ignored it the first
time. Do you find calling the POTUS the droppings a male bovine more dignified
and acceptable than calling the POTUS by his initials?See, you make
a broad generalization of the right but refuse to recognize when the left is
guilty of worse abuses.I’ll accept your silence on the
question as an indication you feel the left can get with anything; since they
have no standards, why should they be held to any. (does the name Bill Maher
ring a bell?)
"But I thought you conservatives wanted us to stop bringing up Bush era
stuff, like his bungling of the economy, or his unfunded wars, tax cuts, and
prescription drug benefits, his government bailouts, the fact that he was the
worst president in living memory, and the unbelievable fact that you voted for
him twice?"Emajor,HIS bungling of the economy? The
housing bubble burst due to policies by the Democrats. Bush had an average of
5% unemployment. What was Obama's? How about rather than blame Bush, how
about you democrats start telling the nation what Obama would actually do.Government bailouts? If Bush was horrible because of his government
bailouts, then Obama must be inexplicably worse. And Bush couldn't
possibly be the worst president in living memory for anyone who lived during the
past 4 years. What would be even more unbelievable is if we vote for Obama
twice. That would be an embarrassment to the United States. We would really
have to apologize to the world for that!
The thing why this endorsement is making news is not that it's coming from
the Des Moines Register, but because it's coming from a left-leaning
newspaper that hasn't endorsed a Republican in 40 years. This represents a
definite shift from 2008 and away from Obama.Where is Obama's
'Change'? All we are hearing are excuses. No doubt the same opinion
being expressed by left-leaning newspapers...
Hutterite:As an independent, I've read all the things that are
wrong with Romney, most of it coming from far left websites.What I
see coming from the right are realistic expectations of Romney. They aren't
proclaiming their candidate is the messiah that will cause the 'oceans to
recede' and the world come together in love and harmony.Romney
is not perfect. He's a politician and plays that game well. But the info
coming from the far left leaning websites and MSNBC are ridiculous. They believe
that Romney will cause women to digress back to the '50s and shove grandma
off the cliff. Seriously?Reality is much more disturbing. What I see
from Obama is a disastrous first term. I see the country in worse shape than I
can remember in my lifetime. Washington has never been more partisan. He's
failed as a leader. He has lost my confidence and it would be disastrous to this
country if voted in a second term.Romney's real-world
experience is worth giving him a chance. He's a family man with very little
tarnish on his record. He's a far better option than Obama...
Sounds to me like the Des Moines Register has a lot smarter editorial board than
the one in Denver.
One more week before this debacle is over. I don't think our real choice
here should be between Obama or Romney but between sanity and insanity. The
Supreme Courts Citzens United ruling has changed our country forever if we
don't change campaign election laws things will become worse. The amount
of money being spent is abusurd!! I have not heard Romney's opinion on the
matter but have heard BO say many times how the ruling is bad for America. If
we don't fix this our future leaders may still be elected but they will be
funded by unseen, selfish forces. It's all about the money.
After having read a number of the posts here, most seem to forget that Des
Moines is the largest metropolitan area in the state of Iowa. It
Register's endorsement of Romney may not throw the election in his favor,
but it certainly could be enough to throw the state in his direction.
Re: Rick C DAVENPORT, IA"No one pays attention to the Register's
endorsement"Actually Mitt Romney made a clean sweep in Iowa.
All four major newspapers, including the state's largest paper, The Des
Moines Register, backed Mitt Romney.What part of this story is it
that the liberals don't understand?
mightymite,The Deseret News does us the courtesy of sharing stories
that the majority of their readers have an interest in. How strange it would be
if they did not do that.
"No, I think I'll follow the example of so many conservative posters
here and come up with a childish, disrespectful, and slightly insulting nickname
for him and use that instead. Then I'll blame him for every problem the
country has .."Emajor - no sympathy for you here. And when it
comes to "childish, disrespectful," etc., etc., look no further than Joe
Biden and his boss. Their photos are in the dictionary next to that definition.
Those two hit new lows everyday. Time for real hope and change.
O'Really,Romnesia? That's actually pretty funny. Pretty accurate
too. If conservatives can come up with something that clever and descriptive, I
might give it a pass. Clinton & Millsap fan,I can tell
conservatives have real regrets about voting for Bush, because you are awfully
touchy and sensitive when anyone brings it up. That wasn't really the point
of my last post, but now that you've brought it up, 4 years is not enough
to simply forget what a horrible president he was, and that fact that you passed
over two competent but boring challengers who probably wouldn't have made
those mistakes. Bailout & some deficit issues aside, Obama is nothing like
Bush. He didn't lie to start a war that killed over 3000 soldiers, did he?
We can't all have Romnesia about the fact you elected and then reelected
re:Millsap Fan"You know the republican who fixed the economy
successfully while cutting taxes?"No, the Republican Reagan who
cut tax rates and then raised taxes 11 times. The Reagan who ended up with
a large budget deficit? Gov. Romney was a moderate when he was
Gov.--and had Democrats who were willing to work across the aisle. If elected
Pres. Romney will inherit a far-right House of Representatives who view
compromise as immoral. But who knows? It appears Republicans can embrace the
far-right Romney one minute and the moderate Romney the next minute. They can
embrace a 180 degree shift on policy as long as it has an "R" attached.
Congressional Democrats are much better at working across the aisle
Re: VST,"The Deseret News does not endorse candidates."You can really sat that with clear conscience? How often do you read the
dnews or do you just have those mormon blinders on?
@ emajor..."Romnesia" thanks to our illustrious and
respectful Mr. President.
The writer of this article is making it sound like the Register is just
endorsing Romney over some kind of petty rage at being told the president's
comments were off the record. That's not at all the case. Their endorsement
is entirely based on the issues. To quote the linked plea for the transcript to
be opened:"It’s important that I emphasize the White
House’s decision won’t play a factor in our board’s final
endorsement decision. That would be petty and ridiculous. We take far too
seriously what’s at stake this election and what our endorsement should
@sapIf Which Romney is elected, repubs will not blame the previous
President of The United States of America for ANYTHING?I would not
take that promise to the bank...However, I will hold repubs to it
anyway...Thank you, very much.
What's Mr. Obama going to answer about the failed green jobs, transparency
in the White House, a bumbling and/or incompetent foreign policy, crony
capitalism, a ballooning debt, pandering to the unions and left wing radicals,
refusing to submit a budget, ignoring his own Bowles-Simpson recommendations, an
unfunded health care plan, and on and on. His cool charm can only take him so
far before voters and unbiased journalists catch on. The New York Times and
other left wing papers will go down with the ship.
Utah Bill,Same ole tactic of the left. Tell half the story. While
you are correct in stating that MA will not go for Romney, you act as if they
know something we don't instead of being honest and admitting that 87% of
MA are democrats.
These newspaper endorsments are a total waste of time at this point in the
campaign. Half of the voters have already voted early and the other half have
already made up there minds who they will vote for. There are no so called
undecided voters left, anyone that says they are undecided at this stage is just
simply not going to vote anyway. Both Obama & Romney are preaching to the
converted, their job now is to get all of their converts that haven't
already voted to the polls on November 6th.
@emajorI've got a new campaign slogan for Obama. "Bush did it."I'm so sick of the blame game. Obama
has been blaming Bush for four years. Time to man up Obama for the six trillion
dollars of debt you have racked up when you said you would cut the deficit in
half and if you didn't you would be a one term president. (You
called Bush un-American for four trillion so what does that make you?) For being dishonest about Libya and acting weak in the face of terrorism. I
want a real man for president instead of a little boy who when his hand is
caught in the cookie jar says "bush did it."
@Emajor: No, please, go ahead and bring Bush's failed policies up, and
then go ahead and explain why Obama continued and even expanded most of them.
Please explain why it was a good thing that Obama continued Bush's
government bailouts. Please explain how Obama's expansions of Bush's
over-regulation of the auto and healthcare industries have been a good thing for
our economy, to name a couple examples. I agree that Bush is one of the worst
presidents in recent history, so perhaps you can explain why Obama, who has
continued a lot of Bush's worst policies, isn't . . . well . . .
worse? Also, read my other post and explain how any of those are qualities we
want to have in the leader of our country. Please.
@Furry1993,Here we go with Bush again. Romney isn't Bush and
their policies are different. Democrats say that republicans don't know how
to fix an economy. You ever heard of Ronald Reagan? You know the republican who
fixed the economy successfully while cutting taxes? As for Bush, he
was dealing with the worst terrorist attack in American history and two wars
most of congress and this country wanted so give the guy a break.
@One Vote: I wonder why Obama had his Attorney General held in criminal
contempt of Congress for his efforts to cover up Operation Fast and Furious? I
wonder why Obama fired an Inspector General of Americorps for catching one of
his friends in a corruption case? I wonder why Obama repeatedly lied about the
murder of a U.S. Ambassador in Libya? I wonder why Obama spent a trillion
dollars on "shovel-ready" jobs, only to later admit there was no such
thing as a shovel-ready job? I wonder why Obama redistributed $26.5 billion
dollars of taxpayer money to his union supporters in the UAW? I wonder why
Obama increased food stamp spending by over 100% during his presidency? I
wonder why Obama presented budgets to outrageous that nobody, not even his own
party would vote for them? I wonder why Obama presided over America's
credit rating cut? I wonder why Obama would skirt bankruptcy law, in a Hugo
Chavez-ian move, according to the Wall Street Journal, in order to turn control
of Chrysler over to his union supporters? There are so many things I wonder
about this president, and those who support him?
lost in DC,"I guess you turn a blind eye to Bush's critics
"But I thought you conservatives wanted us to stop bringing up
Bush era stuff, like his bungling of the economy, or his unfunded wars, tax
cuts, and prescription drug benefits, his government bailouts, the fact that he
was the worst president in living memory, and the unbelievable fact that you
voted for him twice? Is all that stuff back on the table now? A
question for you, though. If it irritated you that critics called Bush childish
and rude names, and you find this to be a moral failing, why would you accept
this behavior from conservatives? Should you simply drop your standards when it
is expedient to do so?
For a newspaper of a neighboring state of South Dakota to endorse Richard Nixon
over George McGovern must have been a hard thing to do. However, Watergate
hadn't been investigated thoroughly, by that time, sort of like Benghazi
where there were 4 deaths from the diplomatic mission in Libya, which there
weren't deaths in Watergate. Also, it is ridiculous, even for
a Democrat to compare Richard M. Nixon with Governor Romney in any kind of
light, red or blue. Their personna and character are completely different over
their many years of service. Their integrity and honesty levels are completely
opposite from each other. They, however, were/are both Republicans,
that is agreed. President Nixon was a deficiency for all of America and not
just the Republican. The Des Moines Register must note that difference, also,
to break with the past 40 years and support Romney.If the President
ever had a plan for the economy instead of making anti-American political
statements to every country while he traveled to their country, he would have
done a better job.His first mistake was hiring a Secretary of the
Treasury that couldn't spell budget but could avoid income taxes.
An endorsement that should get more press is the one that isn't - from the
voters of Massachusetts. The citizens of that state went out of their way to
elect Romney once, but will not do so again. Obama leads there by a
insurmountable 15%. As a result, Romney has given up campaigning there. Who
knows Romney best - the voters of Utah or the voters of Massachusetts?
I hope the Des Moines Register's endorsement does make a difference. But
then I think of how few people in this state will pay any attention to the Salt
Lake Tribune's endorsement of Obama.
@Furry1993" Romney wants to go bac to Bush's
excesses..."Another worn out Obama line. Bush did a stimulus
and so did Obama. Bush started the bailouts and Obama continued them. Neither
man had any business leading the country. This isn't about
Bush vs Obama. It's about waking up from the drunken stupor this
government seems to be in when it comes to spending. Think about it, Furry
1993. If government spending were the key to solving our economic problems, as
Obama and Biden have both told us, Bush would have never had any economic
problems. He spent $4 Trillion! Only to be outdone by Obama's $6
The President's lacking policies, if any at all, are let's keep the
same in the next 4 years as he has had, if he had spelled out any, for our
country.He had a policy of vacations, trips, expenditures, giving
money for votes to unions, Czars, and a Benghazi affair that he left in Las
Vegas (What happens in Benghazi, stays in Benghazi).He has a
Secretary of State and a Secretary of Defense along with his leadership that
couldn't handle the at a moment's notice at "3 a.m." in the
morning. The President had plenty of advance warning about Osama Bin Laden so
"he" could pull the trigger. In this instance, the President and his
highest level appointees could not pull the trigger when our dedicated servants
of the United States of America were giving their lives for our country. The
two seals even disobeyed th stand down orders of the uppers. They did what any
military or civilian servant would do for their comrades in arms. They gave
their all and without knowing that they were going to be sacrificed by our
Commander-in-Chief and his top advisers. Worse than Watergate politics.
One more thing about endorsements. There are about 6% real undecideds. If
anything can convince them one way or another, it is worth putting it out there.
Ads, personal calls, even media events. We shall see. We know Ca. will not be
impressed nor NY but some swing states might be.
The last time the Des Moines Register endorsed a Republican was 1972, when they
endorsed Richard Nixon.And that turned out great for America, right?
Why is Romney making false claims about the jeep plant In Iowa moving to China?
ANY newspaper endorsing a republican is big news.Emajor"childish, disrespectful, and slightly insulting" Those don't
look like the tolerant and diversity-respecting terms we have been told the left
embraces. But if you are referring to nicknames given to
presidents, I guess you turn a blind eye to Bush's critics who routinely
added "ll" an "it" in small script to strategic places in his
name. Please don't tell me you find it more acceptable to refer to a
president as the droppings of a male bovine than to refer to one by his
But what about both parties blocking Green Party presidential candidate, Dr.
Jill Stein, from even attending a presidential debate, similar to Ralph Nader
being denied entrance to a presidential debate, even though he held a ticket.
Did the Des Moines Register report on that?I say both parties were
complicit in blocking Stein, and having her arrested, because it is well known
that the Republican and Democrat parties control the presidential debates, via
the Commission on Presidential Debates, Inc.Ask yourselves why two,
powerful parties should be afraid of small, insignificant challengers. Probably
for the same reason that Ron Paul's supporters were silenced at the GOP
Those grapes were probably sour anyway.
They endorsed Romney? I guess they really don't care about the
country's welfare. Romney wants to go bac to Bush's excesses, and put
the country down the toilet in the process.
Perhaps the press is beginning to realize that their number one job is telling
the truth and that in the end the truth helps the bottom line of the newspaper
industry. To say that the election of Romney will end it all is ludicrous.
However, people across this land are sick of Newspapers, the government, the
selfish, and the powerful pandering to weakness, enriching themselves at the
expense of the poor and the ignorant, and destroying the foundations of this
country. Romney is just the first step! Obama's policies, regardless of
his motivations, are destroying this country. A newspaper's job is to pull
the mask off. Newspapers have lost credibility and readership because of how
they have handled The People's rights to the truth.
Of course they gave him their endorsement. People are realizing that there
isn't a plan for a second Obama term. Hire more teachers? Raise taxes on
'the rich.' Invest in 'green' energy. Please, any Obama
supporter, how is that a plan?
The Register is a reliable publication and their information from 2008 and 2012
are interesting to compare, they have been Democratic years.Register
in October 2008: Obama has earned endorsement for the presidency because of his
steadfastness in the face of uncertainty, his clear-eyed vision for a more just
America and his potential for rallying the country to do great things. Obama
said, "I think there's this particular window right now where the
country is hungry for change, and also hungry to be brought together, as opposed
to being driven apart. I thought that the particular skills bringing people
from diverse backgrounds across lines of race, party, region or faith to focus
on solving problems, is a useful and needed skill right now."Register in October 2012: Determined Romney is better positioned to
"forge the compromises in Congress" necessary to turn the economy
around, create jobs and get the federal budget back on track. Romney has made
rebuilding the economy his No. 1 campaign priority--and rightly so," and
Obama's "best efforts to resuscitate the stumbling economy have fallen
short." It would not change with a second term," "Barack
Obama’s theme was hope and change.
Unfortunately all the buzz on the Internet is over who your sister paper in SLC
Which candidate do you suppose the DN is going to endorse? Hard to say. However,
I don't read the register out of Iowa. It's Iowa, for petes'
sake. But I do know this. Romney is a huge mistake. So I'm not endorsing
That's cool rifleman, that you have been hanging out behind closed doors
with President Obama's reelection committee. Good for you.
"Get used to saying "President Romney" for the next 4 years"No, I think I'll follow the example of so many conservative posters
here and come up with a childish, disrespectful, and slightly insulting nickname
for him and use that instead. Then I'll blame him for every problem the
country has. Inaccurate comparisons to villainous historical figures and extreme
political ideologies are also highly likely. Tit for tat, you know.
Re: KJB1 Eugene, ORWhat Obama's re-election committee is saying
behind closed doors is that they are in serious trouble. The double hits he
took with his bungled first presidential debate and then his bungled handling of
our Consulate in Libya were more than he could overcome.Get used to
saying "President Romney" for the next 4 years.
The Denver Post endorsed President Obama, and that's also a "key
endorsement" in a swing state. Where is the DN's screaming headline
for that story?
Rick C,"No one pays attention to the Register's
endorsement"After Googling it, I've come to a different
conclusion. I may not live in Iowa, but a whole lot of people are reading about
it elsewhere. You obviously read about this yourself, and I'm sure others
in Iowa will know this either now or by the time they vote. Sounds "key"
enough to me.
I'm not sure if the writer is an Iowan. I'm guessing not. No one pays
attention to the Register's endorsement; hardly anyone outside of the Des
Moines metro area even reads it. A key endorsement? Hardly.