East High School 2012 State 4A Playoffs**UHSAA doesn't live up
to their rules and allows East to play after kicking them out of the tournament.
Get over it. You don't know the facts... Go East take state.
They are a great bunch of young men. It's good to see them come together
after an emotional last couple of weeks. It was also great to see them with pink
tape to show that the game was for charity as well. Hope all goes well for these
Yes, I do know the facts, the UHSAA chickened out.The fact is there
will always be an * associated with everything East does from this point and
that my friend is a fact!
East Wins * * * *(an asterisk for each one of them)
4 asterisks because that is how many wins they have on the season? I
don't believe we are clear yet on exactly how many wins East has this year.
The UHSAA hasn't made that clear yet. I think all we know for sure is
that they have the Cyprus win and a Mountain View win. * * (2 asterisks)
@ GLENDALE-84104 - We do know the facts, the entire transcript of the hearings
were printed in the paper. So those people like yourself who say people
don't know the facts only demonstrates that you don't or do not care
to read them. The facts have been made public.
On a side note. I wish these boys from East the best of luck. I hope that the
administration and coaches take this opportunity to explain to these kids that
hiding things does not benefit anyone. I still won't say East cheated, but
they were aware of what they were hiding, that is public knowledge now. These
young men have proven to be one of the best 4A Football teams in the state if
not one of the best in the state overall. I am glad they have a chance to prove
it. I just wish the UHSAA would have did the right thing. One, stand behind
your initial decision. Or Two, don't let your decision affect so many
others for the sake of one school. TO punish East with on the field play, they
should have let Mtn. View, Salem Hills and S.Ville play a play in game by halfs
and then let the winner then play East for a play in game, leave the bracket the
way it was from the beginning, that would have been fair and Cyprus didn't
deserve it anyway.
Way to go Leopards. What a great tradition of winning football. Look at the 1956
season.. State Champs. EAST 7 OLYMPUS 0, East 23 Murray 0, East 14 West 0,
East 29 Jordan 0, East 6 South 0, East 7 Tooele 0, East 34 Carbon 0,
East 34 Logan 6 (State Championship game, touchdown by Logan on a freak late
run. 1st polynesian ever at East, Sonoma Liufau made a great contribution
to the team. Love all of you, GO FOR STATE!!!
The issue was never about East to me. The real issue was how the supposed
punishment was handled. Had the USHAA left the tournament seeds alone, punished
the adults, if they were really the only ones at fault there never would have
been such an out cry.
@ Cache Valley 1the 4 asterisks were for the 4 ineligible players
East had this year.I hope Logan gets through Timpview and meets up
with East again and takes them out!
Should be supppper fun game on Saturday at 5! Would love it if KJZZ would some
how get out there and put that on TV! It will be a very hard hitting
intense game, that I can see EAST winning by 20 points, because I dont at all
think Herriman is as good as HERRIMAN thinks they are.They are a
solid program and getting better, and hey won a share of the region title! even
though it was a region whos combined records are 17-28 ! Good luck
to both east and Herriman on saturdayOh and GO MINERS
I hope Herriman beats East, then all the East fans who say we don't know
the facts can go away. But then we still have to deal with the way to early
Logan Timpview matchup. It is just disappointing that this football playoff
season is tainted by some board members. Playoffs is suppose to be exciting,
fun and fair. Surprise teams can get rolling and pull an upset, it happens
every year in the first and second rounds. Last year in the 4A, nobody expected
Westlake to beat Mtn Crest at Mtn Crest and then give Timpview all they could
handle at home before losing on a last second TD pass when they got smoked by
T-View earlier in the season by 40 plus. In the 5A nobody expected Syracuse to
beat Alta in the first round. Teams change in the playoffs and now we have to
see what should be hopeful late round matchups way to early. A lot of times,
teams who have to rise way up to early sets them up for a let down in weeks to
come. It is the nature of sport.
@binhamalumThe combined record is 27-31, with two of the worst teams
in the state in Murray and Hillcrest, not to mention Westlake is not much to
shake a stick at. Your Region 4 record is not all that impressive either at
33-27, so don't pop off to quick. Must have been tough playing American
Fork and Lehi. Herriman is much better than you may give them credit for, yep
they slipped against Riverton early in the season. Riverton is not a bad team
and will give Alta again all they can handle. Riverton lost to Alta, Bingham,
Lone Peak and Suracuse this year. All likely 5A Semi Final Teams despite the
outcome in the 2nd Round between Alta and Syracuse. I would be willing to say
that Saturdays Herriman East game will be closer than most think and that game
will most likely produce the 4A Champ. Like I said before though, it is a shame
that Herriman, East, Timpview, Logan, Maple Mountain and Woods Cross are all on
the same side of the bracket. Overall combined real record of these teams,
I feel bad for the other teams that deserved to be in this play-in game but got
snubbed due to this fiasco. It sure should not have been Mtn View. When was the
last time they had a playoff win? Or even a respectable season? I am a Mtn View
supporter and try to attend a game or two every year - this drought is getting
@utahbruin27-31 record (Take away Herrimans 8-2 recrod)(take away 4 wins from each of Herriman, Skyline, and Olympus-ALL 4 being
region wins)Skyline1-4, Olympus1-3, Hillcrest1-4, Westlake2-2,
hillcrest2-3, murray1-4American fork could beat anyone from REgion
6, cept maybe Herriman, Riverton won the #4 seed in region 4! THEY BEAT YOU! Bountiful is #3 seed, barely made the playoffs! and you lost to them! Herriman is OVERRATED! I have seen them play and they arent that great!
They are good for the players theyve been dealt with being a new
school.But people dont wanna hear how good Herriman, they want to
see it.Sorry lose to Skyline and Bountiful, and Riverton doesnt
prove to me your ready for a 4A state title. East is about to come into
town and run it right at your boys.Leading scoring team in state is
Herriman! You better hope your a better offense then Jordan, they put up
28 points, and still were losing. Jordan would beat Herriman 10 of 10 times. !East is as big as the Bingham team 2 years ago who finished #4 in
country. They just run more! ha
I have to agree with binghamalum. Riverton was the Region 4 #4 seed and beat
Herrimann, how good can Herrimann really be. They lost to Skyline? Did I read
that right, lost to Skyline? The nice thing is we'll be done hearing from
the West Riverton folks after Saturday, we know they don't show up here
after a loss.
@binghamalumFirst, if you know sports you cant take wins away. A
win is a win. You can't take out Herriman, that's who were talking
about. And all the losses you talk about. All to playoff teams one a two
seeds, and one four seed, except 3, two by the same team Murray who is probably
the worst in the state. Second, everyone knows that on any given day
can any team win.Third, "American Fork can beat anyone in Region
6, (ac)cept maybe Herriman". Herriman is not in Region 6, they're
Region 7. I don't think American Fork could beat Skyline, Olympus,
Herriman, Region 7, or East, Highland, W.Cross or Bountiful, Region 6.Fourth, Bountiful never played anyone from Reg. 7, in fact Bountifuls opening
win came against Lone Peak, YOUR Region 4 Champ. Does that mean they beat
Bingham too since Lone Peak beat Bingham. "No" but your logic means they
could. Bountiful barely made the playoffs according to you with a 7-3 record
with the real loss to East. Hmmm!Fifth, Win a 4 seed? I think
rather you get a 4 seed when you go 6-4.
I understand why the board let East in. It did not seem fair to punish all the
players. That being said, is it more fair to punish the team who broke the
rules, or teams who did not? Either make east forfeit all of their games, or
none of them. They can call East a four seed, but they are still probably the
best team in 4A. I hope Herriman can pull out the win, because they are the ones
getting the raw deal. I am curious why UtahBruin thinks Cyprus didn't
deserve a shot. As far as I can see, they have better overall record than the
other three teams fighting for a play in game, and are in what is the toughest
region in 4A.
@SeridaThe only reason I said that about Cyprus was that they did
not have a chance at the playoffs without East's forfeits. The others were
already on a playoff play in game track. They were snubbed by the Timpview
forfeits, Mtn View wasn't even suppose to be there at all. I am not taking
anything away from them, they are much improved over last year. And I agree
with you, they probably do play in one of the toughest regions with Highland,
Bountiful and East and Woods Cross (This Year) One of those schools always
seems to be playing or mixing it up for the title.
What is funny to me is the lack of respect for Herriman. True...Herriman did
lose to Riverton and Skyline. I will remind everyone that Riverton was a
neutral site and Skyline was away...it happens sometimes. However, no mention
of the East loss to Logan...other than to say...well the kids weren't into
that game. Well I saw the film....East was deep into the game...East's
just doesn't know how to defend the pass!!!FACTS:Herriman Win%: 80East Win%: 88Region 7 vs Region 6: 3-2Region 6 vs Region 7: 2-3Herriman/Highland Score: 31-14East/Highland Score: 34-13Herriman/Clearfield Score: 50-7East/Clearfield Score: 47-0Herriman Home Wins: 4East Away
Wins: 5 (includes play-in game)Herriman Home Losses: 0East
Away Losses: 1Herriman Points Scored Rank: 1stEast Points
Scored Rank: 2ndHerriman Points Against Rank: 14thEast Points
Against Rank: 7thHerriman 1,000 yd rushers: 2East 1,000 yd
rushers: 1Herriman is an 18 point underdog. Herriman will not get
killed in the game and I believe they will actually win the game.
@bigbeenzoIf east biggest weakness is the pass isn't herrimans
strength the run not the pass
All the people still bashing the UHSAA for letting east play will feel foolish
to judge once disney makes this a movie and we all go home with that feel good
feeling in our hearts. You MIGHT know some facts, but there is more to this than
the transcript of the hearing. You'll just need a good director and actors
to prove it.
The dude bigbenzo88 with the stats. Of course Herriman's stats would be
that high due to the weak schedule you play in Region 7. Example: Olympus,
Skyline, Westlake, Hillcrest, and Murray. Come on now! Even Juan Diego (3A) can
compete in this region. East comes out and puts it to Herriman this saturday.
EAST TAKE STATE!
KingvatuNot only could JD compete in that regionThey
would have won that region this year easily and could win it again next year if
they were in it
I hope Herriman beats East!
I don't believe you have to be better than everybody else. I believe you
have to be better than you ever thought you could be. GOOD LUCK HERRIMAN
Region 6 on a roll in first round, while region 7 is on the brink of Oh-no and
4!! No pressure Herriman! Might have to put the Dynasty label on hold for
awhile....love it! High school football is the best!
The kids on the team are not at fault. The players that were ineligible were
not integral to East's success this year. I am not saying East will win
state, but if they weren't allowed to play in the tournament then whoever
won the state title would deserve a an asterisk because they would not have had
to play the best team 4A team in the state. UHSAA did right by letting the kids
on the team go and try to earn something together.