Duckhunter,Thanks for recognizing me as a "real" Utah fan.
After loyally following the Utes as my favorite team for the last 35 years, even
while I was an undergraduate student at BYU, I think I've earned it. As
you know, the pre-Ronny Mac years were pretty lean!You have made it
clear what you mean by 'Utah "fans."' Trust me, I get it.
But be honest, by your criteria, there are more than a few Cougar "fans"
out there. I don't agree with the tone of many of the posts in
these comments sections, but I have grown weary of trying to police my fellow
sports fans in their comments. Instead, I try to make thoughtful, objective
observations, and I try to use restraint when posting, particularly when it is a
BYU-focused article. For what it's worth, these efforts have resulted in
my being more comfortable in my own skin than I was last year.That
being said, here's a little well-meaning, unsolicited advice: Put aside
the anger, Ducky - you'll feel better!
The Utes imploded this week with the number of turnovers and bad penalties that
kept them from scoring. Yes they were take aways by OSU but most of
the turnovers were avoidable. Christopher should have caught that tipped pass
is was high but still catchable. Also Wilson put that pitch right in his hands
down near the goal line. No excuses those plays need to be made. The ironic
thing is it was our seniors dropping the ball or not making the plays. I'm
hoping that changes this week.Most Utah fans knew that the Utes had
a lot of work to do in order to compete week in and out of this conference.
There are a couple of teams that aren't great but overall, even those teams
have better athletes than you will find on most MWC rosters.Utah had
it's best recruiting class they have ever had last year and this years
class seems to be getting to where they need it as well. There is
still a lot to play for this season but the Utes still have a bright future in a
good conference.Go Utes!
@Utah'95But you're not a utah "fan", you appear to
me to be a real fan. utah "fans" are well known on these boards,
individuals like christy b who is seldom around anymore, naval vet who has
completely disappeared, jenny, hedghog, williary, 54-10 and his other 300 screen
names, johninslc, hailstorm, etc. Gone, they're all pretty much gone. And
by being gone they prove to be exactly what we all knew them to be, utah
"fans". Those that simply hop on when they perceive it to be good and
disappear when it isn't. Those that simply hate BYU but now can't use
a false claim of being utah fans to make a false claim of superiority. I
personally don't understand why you don't get what they are and why
real utah fans like yourself tolerate them. You should be condemning them at
every opportunity, but for some reason you do not. It is interesting to watch.
indycrimson Being a 'goof ball' Cougar fan brings a smile
and a sense of satisfaction as compared to being a Ute fan about now.And please explain what does "or we need to move on" mean? 'Code speak' for firing Whit or fans abandoning the Utes?... which
has already occurred from the lack of comments on these boards.LOL
Utes need to look to 2013. Disaster at QB but Wilson might be the
future. O-line can kill any QB and ours did it this year!Whit will
prove he is good enough for a conference like the PAC 12 with his ability to
recruit nationally desired players. He's not there currently. Next year
he must show a better result or we need to move on.Beating the goof
balls down south is not enough for me. Put that behind us and look to the
future...rivalries gone, they are not a good team and you cannot gauge success
or progress by how bad, or often you beat them.PAC 12 has stud
coaches...except Sark who will lose his job at WA this year...Hope
we turn it around next year...growing impatient.
Can't win when you turn the ball over. Maybe I should be like byu fan and
say "if it weren't for all those turn.... Wait it's not worth it.
Utes lost. Keeping fighting Utes!
Still a lot of football left for the Utes.Great teams left on the
schedule.They will get it going and finish with a bowl win.
That's what the Utes do!Go Utes!
Duckhunter,I don't claim to speak for other Utah fans, but I am
still here. I am just trying to resist the temptation to snark back and forth
with BYU "fans" like you.But since I am typing, here are
some observations:Everything that concerned me in the offseason
about this Utah team has unfortunately come to fruition.-Replacing
NFL-caliber offensive tackles, productive linebackers, and dealing with the
growing pains of an inexperienced OC, have all been issues this year.-I didnt' expect Wynn to last through the season, but I am happy with the
progress of true freshman Wilson.Plus:-Maybe it's
just due to play-calling and injury, but White hasn't been nearly as
impressive this season.-Christopher has disappointed.-The defense, while good, hasn't met expectations.-There is a
much smaller margin of error in the PAC 12 than Utah was used to in the MWC.
They have to show up weekly, not help their opponents with penalties and
turnovers.-No matter what conference you play in, it's tough to
win games unless you put more points on the board.-They are
improving, and COULD win any of their remaining games.
Wildcat"BYU tucks tail and runs at the thought of joining the
Big 12. Playing a tough schedule like that has the Cougar Camp running for
toilet paper."Please explain your rant in light of the Utes
discontinuing and running away from the BYU rivalry for a few years.Also... when did BYU get an invite to the BIG 12?Come back when
you get your facts straight and when you're not so worked up aka
"frantic and emotional" over your last place, 0-4 Utes.
UteologyThe kids on the hill have only themselves to blame.After all of the chest-beating by Utah fans about the Utes being "one of
the big boys", it's becoming increasingly apparent, even to the most
die-hard Utah fans, that the Utes simply aren't good enough to compete in
the PAC.BYU fans have been disappointed in BYU's season, but
the huge difference between BYU and Utah is this:BYU is three plays
away from being 7-1 and ranked in the Top 25 with two road wins against Top 25
opponents. BYU is a lock for a bowl.Utah is one play away from being
1-6 and winless against D1 opponents. Utah's bowl hope are hanging by a
Shifting the discussion to BYU fans chirping about your loss doesn't
deflect from the real issues. Try looking at the low ball comments from Utah
fans on BYU sports. There are still only 5-6 legitimate FB teams in the PAC-12.
Owning BYU? It's a bit of humor amid the gloom.
Nice effort for the first half.But Utah didn't give the ball up
- OSU took it away, except for the fumble on the pitch. Ouch. Maybe y'all
should have joined the Big East or another pansy conference. Could be an 0-fer
in the PAC....Careful - Cal will be hungry after the Stanford
loss.I'll bet some of y'all saw Wheaton in your
worf, if that were the case, then why did Pac-12 refs blow a call in overtime
giving ND a win in OT against a ranked Stanford team?
BYU is 5-14 vs good teams in 3 years and from the looks of it all BYU fans are
concerned about is Utah. Newsflash: Utah is horrible this year, but we still
OWN your team.Its been 4 years and Utah still doesn't have a
long term solution for the OC position. As I said BJ isn't qualified to be
an OC for a D2 team. This is not an opinion but a fact:A) 114
ranked offenseB) 3 total TDs in 3 PAC-12 road gamesC) Best
performance against a D1 team: 17 points on BYU's greatest defense everThe defense seems to be getting better, at least this week they could
tackle. Where is the pass rush, ranked #72 in sacks. And how about those
penalties keeping the opponents drives alive leading to TDs, that's two
Good to see the "class" of BYU fans on the U of U board--how did BYU do
against Oregon State last week in Provo? How did they do against the U of U
this year? At least the U of U has the guts to step up to the
national stage. BYU tucks tail and runs at the thought of joining the Big 12.
Playing a tough schedule like that has the Cougar Camp running for toilet
paper.Idaho and NMSU should help BYU get their groove back and have
them talking BCS-busting again. No LOL--sad, just very very sad. BYU Independence--A League of Their Own!
I am a Utah man, sir, and I cannot take much more.We looked so good on
paper. Once again we're 0-4.Cheer up, there's always next year
when we might avoid this hole.A team can still be great without an invite
to a bowl (right?).Who am I sir?Hey, look over there!
Yawn... aaah... the afterglow...The new 'normal' has now
arrived.0-4 Pac 10.2 record... thunk... at the bottom.Let the Utesies now heap 'praises' to those responsible. This is
going to be fun to monitor.
I love how the utah "fans" have completely disappeared from utah
Kyle is not a coach, Johnson is not an OC, and the Utes don't have a QB.If they want to compete, they need to step up.Or, keep
Just my theory:Having rated teams lose to Utah would hurt potential
conference revenue. Having a few calls going against the utes would ensure teams
staying rated. Could this be a reason for PAC 12 refs are for all games in and
out of conference?
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys
Our players are making bonehead mistakes by getting penalties that either kill
Utah drives or the prolong opponents drives. Blechen bonehead helmet to helmet.
Anderson bonehead by covering up the tight end on the ineligible man down
field. Christopher bonehead fumble. Wilson is still young but needs to be
absolutely certain about those short over the middle passes. Whit is in danger
of losing this team if it hasn't happened already. If he's worth his
$2MM paycheck he must figure this thing out by next week. I
think DeVonte has already checked out mentally and it's time to leave him
on the bench and get some of the younger receivers more playing time so they can
gel with Wilson for next year. Finally, please find more speed at LB.
Had our chances, but the execution wasn't there. You can't turn the
ball over and drop that many passes and expect to come out on top against a top
10 team; especially on the road. Get it together boys and rebound against Cal.