Who am I sir,and who cares if you can be in the top 1/3 of all
college Div 1 teams means you are not ranked higher then the top
40!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BYU and UTAH are what they are, maybe not in
the top half of college football and nobody in the nation cares!!!!!!!!!
Zamboni and cvguyI don't disagree too much with you - my point
is BYU is in the mix but cannot get the job done. a few plays is not the story
of every 4-4 team. Most 4-4 teams get beat by 14 or 21 points a game. BYU lost
to Utah, BSU and Notre Dame by a combined total of 7 points. The OSU score was
close until two plays broke it open in the fourth. For those Utes
that think a BYU fans cannot admit mediocrity - well you are right. This is a
good team with a mediocre record. They should be better and they are not. This
is not mediocrity but failure to produce when it was needed. The result by the
way looks the same - losing. And I will tell you this - it feels a lot worse.
If they were just average I would not feel this bad about their record. In fact
if they were just mediocre I might even feel better about the whole year. As for Utah State last year that was the most unlucky team I ever saw
play football and some how they did it again this year.
Bronco is not a coach. Doman is not an OC. Riley is not a QB. Nuff said?
CT98,We in McAllen Texas agree.
Despite the score, this was by far BYU's worst game defensively. They gave
up 270 Yards rushing, which means their bigs were getting shoved around.
Everyone blames Riley, but he's not the one calling to short passes that
went nowhere. I wonder if blaming the quarterback is some kind of
disease with BYU fans. The last time I checked Football was a team sport. Why
would a top QB prospect risk coming to BYU knowing that they'll be the
scapegoat like Heaps and Riley for the teams failures.
If Riley was a Junior, I would bet my life that every BYU receiver would
transfer before next year.
Riley Nelson cannot graduate fast enough for me - I'm getting so tired of
him missing wide open receivers.Someone should ask Ross Apo if
he's tired of picking up swing passes off the turf - how hard can it be to
hit a 6'3" receiver in the brisket who's basically standing
still?If the 0-line can develop, the offense next year with Hill and
Williams should be pretty good - unlike this year's open-pass missing, no
field goal abomination...
Bronco spits in the face of every fan each time Riley takes the field. He's
saying his relationship with Rley is more important than the fan base that pays
his exorbitant salary.What is most telling is that last drive of the
game. BYU had 22 seconds to go 75 yards. Even if Nelson were the best QB on the
roster, he is clearly not capable of getting the job done in that situation. At
some point, you're going to have to throw a ball more than 15 yards
downfield. Lark or Munns, even if overall inferior to Nelson (which I don't
believe to be true), would give you a much better chance in that situation.Bronco's decision to leave Nelson in should be the last straw for
every honest BYU fan.
well said zamboni!!
sammygSpringville, UTOh well, good game to watch, some improvement,
Cougars scored two touchdowns against a #5 team.Cougars did as well
against Notre Dame as any BCS team this year.Another Ute beat down
will make me feel better.Go Beavers!__________________HA HA!Nothing like being codependent
on another team to deal with another BYU choke job.
@BYU Joe: "We are about six plays away from being undefeated and ranked in
the top eight..."Sorry pal, but that's the story of every
4-4 team. By your logic, Utah State was about six plays away from playing in the
national title game last year. Why is it so hard for BYU fans to admit they have
a mediocre team? Why do you continue to insist that you have great teams with
mediocre records and next to no wins over quality programs? Just admit that
you're not that good.
Can't beat the big guys without quality QB play. The offense is too
conservative and predictable. No down field threat at all. Never seen a more
stubborn coach. I wish Bronco had fallen in love with heaps. He might not have
been ready but he was young and he could throw. If he had matured even a little
bit he makes this year's team something special. Why is it Bronco
can't see what the entire Cougar nation can see?
We totally could have won but Noter Dame didn't want to be there.
re: BYU Joe1. Bronco is an exceptional Defensive Coach and this BYU
Defense is as good as any we have had in years. What about the last
two games? The defense is to blame. The offense today scored twice against a
team that had allowed 3 total td's all season. Last week the offense
scored 24 points and the defense blew it. 6 plays from being
undefeated? Wow! Makes me speechless.
They never really stretched the defense. The play calling was conservative after
they went up by a touchdown. It use to be that BYU would do the two minute
drill and try to get a score before half time. It is like they are trying not to
lose instead of trying to take it to the other team and win. Maybe this is
because they don't trust Riley to not make a bad decision or throw. They
should have done it to give the team experience for doing it at the end of
To be fair to Riley, It looked to me like Hoffman was going to cut to the right
in order to run down the sidelines after catching the ball. I think that is what
Riley thought also. Instead, Hoffman cut to the inside just as Riley threw the
ball. Maybe I'm wrong, but that is what I thought at the time. Good job,
team. You did us proud. We love you.
James Lark should have played. Riley is simply not a passing QB. We need a
passing QB at BYU. All Fans should Chant the name James Lark at the next game.
This is ridiculous.
Here is the plain truth.1. Bronco is an exceptional Defensive Coach
and this BYU Defense is as good as any we have had in years. 2.
Because Bronco is NOT an offensive mind we need a strong and complete Offensive
Coach that can run the entire offense _ we currently do not have that and it
show.3. We are about six plays away from being undefeated and
ranked in the top eight but the complete lack of offense has made it so we are
no 4-4 and this season is a major disappointment. 4. If you
disagree all you have to do is look at the Utah bad snap, missed field goal, two
points instead of on at BSU, a batted pass and interception against OSU and then
missed field goal and a missed pass to Hoffman today.Most of these
relate directly to the offense and the position they have kept us in all season.
Which sadly is why we are 4-4 instead of ranked in the top 10 and knocking on
BYU is very fortunate that Notre Dame had their back up QB...With Golson in, BYU
would have probably lost be way more points.
Riley completed over 60 percent of his passes, threw one interception of a tip
and another on the last play. He threw two touchdown passes against a defense
that had allowed only 3 td's for the year. He had to run for his life
because of a shaky offensive line. Yet, it is his fault BYU lost, how about the
defense that gave up over 200 yards rushing? I think the defense totally blew
the game for BYU, Riley isn't the greatest thrower but his scrambling is
the only reason BYU was close.
re: worfa loss is a loss is a loss regardless of whether its to a
hated instate rival or an alleged 'Brother in Independence'
Here is some history for you . . .BYU has won 5 games in the past 34
(going back to the beginning of 2010) against teams with winning records...• USU (twice - and last years USU team was only 7-6)• UW• SDSU• Tulsa If that's not an ugly 34 game
span, I don't know what is. As I've said before, BYU has
plateaued under Bronco, and Doman is NOT helping. BYU only scores lots of
points against pathetic teams. The BYU of old has faded into the horizon . . .
This team could be so good. If only we had a quarterback an offensive
Losing to Notre Dame is more honorable then losing to the utes and pac 12 refs.
re: Inevitable R.Nelson InterceptionAgreed? Darn those 3 point
Riley does some good things, and had great moments in the game. However, he is
not a great QB. That throw to Hoffman should have been a TD. Should have, if
we had anybody else taking the snaps at QB.
Sorry Coug fans but there are no moral victories, once again Nelson proved that
he looks better on the sideline than in the game. You better put Lark in before
it's too late, oh wait I forgot that Mendenhall and Doman think the
skateboarding QB is their answer, total incompetence.
@sammyAnother beatdown? As I recall, your team lost to the Utes
A very good showing! Next week could be interesting. Georgia Tech 3-4 with a
win over "Presbyterian" gives hope. But regardless, after that game BYU
will once again regain their football dominance. Finishing the season
overwhelming opponents. Then the bowl game against a team with a non-losing
record. Should be a great match-up.(Note the time of this post.
It's much easier prior to our game at OSU!)
BYU could easily be undefeated but for riley Nelson. Next week BYU will dip
below .500 for the first time in a long time. Time for some changes.
I wonder what dirt Riley has on Bronco where he continues to play him when he
messes up,that pass that he missed Hoffman on was ridiculous,i,m 61years old
and could have completed that pass,it cost BYU the game,everybody who is
unhappy with the play of Riley needs to call Holmo at his office and protest
and if you hold season tickets tell him that if there is not a change in QB,s
that you wont be season ticket holders anymore,Give Lark a chance to see what
he can do ,he certainly could not do any worse.
1st and 10 on their 35, down by 3, 6 minutes left. It's either 4 down
territory, or you want to try a field goal. Either way, you don't call a
pass, and you don't get sacked on 1st down. You also don't punt the
ball away to a team that has been running it down your throat. 4 down territory
or at the very least, keep the ball within field goal range (poor kicker or
not).BYU has squandered 3 potential wins through incredibly poor
Bronco and Doman chose Riley over Heaps? Wow. Most of Riley's throws
weren't even close and it is obvious that he isn't a division 1
quarterback.Players should feel good about the effort but tormented
by the outcome. That one was there for the taking.Keep your heads
Defense played well enough to win. Although it would have been nice if they
could have made a more timely stop toward the end of the game. Offense
couldn't score in the 2nd half. Notre Dame demonstrated what an offensive
line is supposed to look like. Truly dominating. They wore us down in the last
quarter and we couldn't tackle #6.Once again really untimely
penalties and sacks toward the end killed us. Nelson makes plays but he just
doesn't have the skill to take this team to the next level. Terrible
passer. The deep ball is open but our QB can't get the ball to the
I have to admit that I was pleasantly surprised that they could play at this
level. ND is an excellent team and it was understandable that we could sense
the tide turning in the 3rd quarter. Riley has to execute better and make fewer
bad pass attempts. If they had played like this the earlier games, they would
have impressed far more folks across this country, including me, just a fan.
The next two games will tell a lot about whether or not this was a fluke. Go
Cougars. Please exceed my expectations as you did today. Make if an 8-4 season
MajorBYU's O-line was awful. 66 yards rushing and Riley spent
the entire game running for his life. That being said, The Cougs
had a strong showing and probably should have won. The missed pass to Hoffman
would have been the game winner. It's a tough break, but at the very least
it will give BYU some confidence going into Atlanta next week.
Norte Dame second string quarterback is worse than Riley Nelson, the second
touchdown wasn't a touchdown. Byu was lucky to even make it close, bronco
is the more dullest coach I have ever seen I have seen dead people with more
Defense looked good for the most part. Offense not so good. Riley has a lot of
heart but he has a 'water gun' of an arm. That wobbly pass that was a
good 10 yards away from a wide open Cody Hoffman sums this whole season up.
Can we please get a QB that is accurate? Hoffman wide open on that last drive
for a TD, missed him by 5 yards.
The offense had to play a perfect game in order to win this one. The first
interception ended up costing BYU the game. I think that Riley's back is
still a problem. He couldn't throw a pass longer than 20 yards. On the
positive side, this is the first game that the offensive line played a good
game.This game shows that BYU has a national power defense, and a
fair offense. Notre Dame continues to be a class-act. I wish them the best.
They have a great team.GO COUGS. BEAT THE YELLOW JACKETS!
At no point did I feel like BYU was going to win that game. The definition of
what Bronco's team is this year was clearly illustrated when Nelson badly
missed a wide open Hoffman for what would have been the leading TD in the 4th
quarter. While Riley is a likable guy and I really would have liked to see him
get this win and have just one win in his career that he could claim was a great
win, the truth is that he just isn't good enough. Frankly he is a very bad
thrower. I wonder why Bronco has been so willing to stiff the
fanbase, the school, and the rest of the team by allowing this guy to ineptly
ruin game after game.
You already have three losses, you're on the road of pulling off a major
upset that can reinvigorate your program, in Notre Dame territory and you punt
the ball to let Notre Dame run out the clock. Show some guts!
We were a couple bad plays away from knocking of the #5 team in the country!!
And a couple more from an undefeated season.
Riley is such a poor quarterback! Anyone else would have won this game. Bronco
says he likes Riley's performance. Big surprise. He "gave us a chance
to win" would fit well someday on Riley's headstone. We would need to
add, " but we didn't , again."
We didn't get spanked as badly as I feared. Nelson only threw 2
interceptions. Huge sacks really hurt! All in all, better outcome than
expected. Too bad we don't have a QB with an arm.
What a frustrating game. With a decent quarterback BYU wins by two touchdowns.
Grit is highly overrated.
Oh well, good game to watch, some improvement, Cougars scored two touchdowns
against a #5 team.Cougars did as well against Notre Dame as any BCS
team this year.Another Ute beat down will make me feel better.Go Beavers!
Buy the field goal kicker a new leg so he can make the field goals