There have been many comments about Hatch working with Mitt and that would be a
great thing to happen. Due to the outdated electoral college Mitt will soon be
looking for work and that is the best thing that could happen to this state is
for Orrin to be looking for his next gig as well.
OldMan and Rifleman:Nobody condones high school-aged people having sex.
Condone means to accept and allow behavior that is considered morally
wrong/offensive; or to approve/sanction something with reluctance. NOBODY
approves of high school-aged students having sex. However, we MUST deal with
the reality that, unfortunately, it happens. The adults responding here: how
many waited? While nobody condones sex among young people, it happens. So, now
what? How do we deal with that reality? Young people must not make that second
mistake: create a life before they are ready to provide for that life. NOBODY
likes abortion, so pregnancy avoidance must be top priority. Providing
pregnancy prevention is essential for those children who will not wait as we
can't watch them every minute. They must have the information, and it must
be confidential and safe. Otherwise, we have those unfortunate situations we
hear all too often of a baby being born privately of a teen, family did not know
of the pregnancy, and the young mother, terrified, does not allow that baby to
survive because her family might find out and she cannot bear to disappoint
Why not out source Congress to China? I bet we can get Congressman for $10,000
a year and a Senator for $15,000 without health care benefits? We might get
more work out of them, too.Most Congressmen wear Chinese suits,
Chinese ties, Chinese shoes, and Chinese made underwear, so why not just put a
Chinese person in all the Chinese clothes and call it a day.Hearing
Obama waring a Chinese suit, shirt, pant, and shoes talking about Romney
investments in China is funny.America a strange town demanding
minimum wage for ourselves, but not others in the world.Talking
about Chinese investments being bad while wearing Chinese clothes.How long will China keep taking printing press money? We should really
outsource Congress and get right to socialism.What we need world
minimum wage? That would put all Americans back to work, because there would be
no 12 cent an hour labor to build iphones.Rice andlow mein in the
White instead of potatoes and beef. Cheaper and healthier.
You would not BELIEVE how much money is wasted in the military industrial
complex and how you, the taxpayer, are making millionaires left and right of
those people who are contracting with our military and they thank you from the
bottom of their hearts, right after they write out those checks to the
politicians who threw money their way. By the way, Mia Love's
family immigrated here and were poor, but took advantage of our taxpayers'
generosity to get where they are. She got on the boat and wants to pull up the
ramp so others cannot climb on too. Education is not the place to
I think Mia is doing a great job at bringing up the tough issues. We have some
serious spending problems and I'm glad she is explaining them to the
younger generation. There is nothing wrong with being conservative, especially
when representing Utah's values. She is going to ensure that the U.S does
not crumble from debt, while Jim Matheson seems satisfied with the status quo.
Re:one old man Ogden, UT"The idea that "liberals" condone, and
by implication encourage premarital sex among teenagers is still
ludicrous"No so. It isn't people's lip service but
their behavior that determines what they condone, the statistics on promiscuous
casual sex among high school age students can't be denied, and while this
may come as a shock to some ...... these folks aren't flocking to the
"We'll have the only two conservative black people in the whole country
and they're both terrific," Hatch said referring to Love and Florida
Congressman Allen West.I guess Hatch doesn't get out much.
There are plenty of other "conservative black people" in this country,
but you do have to get out of your mansion on the white hill to find them.I love how the Republicans are always complaining about the
Democrats' focus on race but the first chance they get to tout their
"black" conservatives they jump all over it. Who doesn't doubt
that Mia Love would be getting zero attention from the Republicans if she
weren't black. In other words, for Republicans it's actually ALL
about race.And this is coming from somebody who will vote for
Romney, not because of race, religion or anything else, other than he is most
This newspaper is such a partisan propaganda. I'm new to SLC & Utah.
Never have I come across such blatant pandering & ridiculous bias in order
to please its base.
Rifle, question or comment -- no matter. The idea that "liberals"
condone, and by implication encourage premarital sex among teenagers is still
ludicrous. That's no different than someone claiming that all
conservatives are encouraging people like Timothy McVeigh.
Ho hum. Hatch has always been crusty. Don't see the big shake
up over the Dept. of Ed.. Eliminating Dept. of Ed. would probably improve
education as it becomes state work instead of Federal waste. For all the tax $
spent- US education continues to crumble along with the family.
Re: one old man Ogden, UT"His second is completely ludicrous."My first was a comment. My second was a question. And yes, there is a
difference.Where an estimated 75% of girls have engaged in
premarital sex by age 19 my question may not be quite as ludicrous as some of
the liberals would like to admit.
Just because foul language is used in the high schools doesn't mean it is
ok to hear it elsewhere. Young people need a good example, not a fellow foul
Rifle says: "Apparently those concerned with Sen. Hatch's language
haven't been in a high school in the last decade. The language
student's use would make a drunken sailor blush.How many of the
commenters above that express concern over Hatch's language condone
premarital sex among high school age students?"His first comment
is unfortunately true. But does that mean Hatch should not be an example?His second is completely ludicrous. I doubt very much if ANY posters of
any kind condone that. This is one splendid example of his continual attempts
to demonize people who disagree with him.
Re: The Real Maverick Orem, UT"Get Hatch Out!"Unlike
Obama Sen. Hatch is still going to be around after Nov. 6th. Apparently those concerned with Sen. Hatch's language haven't been
in a high school in the last decade. The language student's use would make
a drunken sailor blush.How many of the commenters above that express
concern over Hatch's language condone premarital sex among high school age
Hatch:Desnews: Deseret News Comment Denied.Parents Television
Council: R RatingTime for orrin to go.
So sad that a representative of our government and a member of the church uses
language that should embarrass him.
NeilT @ 10:41 a.m. ---"For the first time in my life I am voting
against Hatch. Totally support term limits."REPLY:At this
juncture, a vote against Hatch ONLY imposes a "term limit" on him... one
lone Senator.But that will do NOTHING to eliminate the "good old
boys" club in D.C.Hatch --by himself-- is NOT the problem;
it's the D.C. fat-cats group in it's entirety that's the
problem.A cancer patient with four tumors does no good to only have
ONE of those tumors removed!If we (The People of Utah) vote out
Hatch now, the rest of the "cancer" still remains, and Utah only LOSES
position and power on the totem-pole of politics.Term limits on ALL
members of Congress is the ONLY solution. We've GOT to get term limits in
place!!No matter how mad you are at Hatch, or tired of him or
dislike him, DON'T vote against him now!
Hard to understand why Senator Hatch uses words that General Authorties
don't use. Especially to young people. Why is that?
Mugabe,"....the use of any profanity only shows, "A lack of
culture." A man of Hatch's supposed character, not to mention that he
is a Priesthood holder, using such language is embarrasing."____________________I doubt that J. Golden Kimball would have even
Hatch should be retired, but not because he used a common epithet, but because
he has become a partisan dog whistler for the extremist Tea Party croud. As
such he will not be in any position to work across the isle.
For the first time in mhy life I am voting against Hatch. Totally support term
limits. Two terms in the Senate. Three four year terms in the house. Time for
Hatch to retire. If three terms was to long for Moss then it should apply to
Steve, I've heard that, but as I've tried to research the source,
I've found several that indicate President Kimball may have been quoting
President McKay when he said that.I really am not sure. But
it's still a very valid comment no matter where it came from.
I think Hatch was trying to relate to the college students. I don't agree
with it.I supported Dan Liljenquist in the primaries, but
Hatch's opponent now is not worthy to be in the Senate. He definitely will
not help us get this economy going again. Hatch is what we have. Knowing that
he will work with Mitt will do.
@One old manRe: One more illustration of the truthfulness of a
comment made by David O. McKay (I think it was): "Foul language is nothing
but the pitiful attempt of a feeble mind to express itself forcefully."You were very close, but it was actually Spencer W. Kimball who said:
"Profanity is the effort of a feeble brain to express itself
Hatch may have been in congress too long, but will be hard to replace him with
Scott Howell, Hatch has done more than any person elected to congress from Utah
to champion womens rights, and keep what little civility there is in the
senate.So until the Democrats of old come back, probably not in my life
time I will support him or whomever the opposition selects.Mia Love is a
breath of fresh air compared to Matheson, who is nothing like his father, Jim
has become a Pelosi surrogate. Has anyone asked Jim who he would support as
speaker of the house if by chance the Demmies would gain back control of
There's no excuse for this.Hatch once again, demonstrates his
lack of class and complete and utter hypocrisy.Then Hatch complains
about the nation being divided and how uncivil the political climate has
become?YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM HATCH!!! You've been
part of the problem for decades!Get Hatch Out!
1) Very disappointed by Hatch's crude language, and his "pandering"
to the young people in this shameful way.2) Hatch has been in office
so many years, I believe HE must accept personal responsibility for the HUGE
MESS this country is in. If his seniority in the Senate has made him SO
powerful and invaluable to The People, then why the heck has he let OUR country
drift into the horrible condition it's in.3) I believe we (The
People) MUST establish Term Limits on these servants!!4) BUT....
until that glorious day comes, it does us NO GOOD to turn Sen. Hatch out of
office UNLESS *EVERY* OTHER U.S. Senator is under the SAME edict.5)
If we (Utahns) fire Hatch now, we are only shooting ourselves in the foot, and
damaging Utah's position of power in a corrupt, antiquated system.6) It's gotta be ALL OR NONE when it comes to Term Limits. A level
playing field for ALL 50 States. We've GOT to hold our noses and vote for
Hatch once again!!
I'm a Republican conservative, but this type of language to the youth of
this nation, is not acceptable, and appalling from a man of Hatch's
supposed stature. I'm ashamed of him hanging on for so many years, and not
letting younger, fresher minds have a chance. What ever happened to serving a
mission for one's church? Time is passed for Hatch.I'm
voting against him at all costs.
"Our Blacks are more conservative than yours." The very fact that hatch
brought that up shows how old school he is. Or how too old for school he is. He
isn't going to change. Time for him to go.
One more illustration of the truthfulness of a comment made by David O. McKay (I
think it was): "Foul language is nothing but the pitiful attempt of a
feeble mind to express itself forcefully."
Mia Love is trying to back away from her earlier comments made to win support
from GOP delegates to win the nomination at the convention. She used terms
earlier in the year that had the ring of the Tea Party rhetoric to impress
people that she was just as conservative if not more so than Wimmer or
Sandstrom. Now she is attempting to move more to the center, thinking that her
image will prevail against moderate Matheson so those delegates won't be so
mad why she is backtracking. Why do politicans like her and Hatch play these
silly games with words? Must be a GOP requirement for office.
Its sad to see Senator Hatch pander for votes to the young crowd by pretending
to be one of them. Apparently it worked for at least one commentator on this
page. I like the senator, but I like him less knowing his unrefined manner of
speech. His gray hair suggests he should have grown up by now. His language
suggests he's still figuring that out.
Hey Oral, thanks for reminding me why I'm no longer a republican.
What's hilarious is the support he's getting on this discussion board
for this language. If Scott Howell, or any Dem, had done this, we would be
subjected to days of "this is just more evidence of the party's
irreverence and disrespect for civility." Shameful display from a tired old
man who needs retired.
Vote FOR Jim Matheson - THE only moderate Utah representative in Washington D.C.
Mia Love is too far to the right. Retire Orrin Hatch who campaigned
36 years ago that 3 terms was too long for a senator.
My Mom has always told us that the use of any profanity only shows, "A lack
of culture." A man of Hatch's supposed character, not to mention that
he is a Priesthood holder, using such language is embarrasing. I
guess the question for me is this, with the many years he has been in the House,
why hasn't he been able to solve the problems that he is complaining about.
What will he do differently if Governor Romney is elected? In my opinion,
Senator Hatch has out lived his usefulness to the People of Utah, I don't
know why they keep electing him.
This is unacceptable speech for Hatch anywhere, especially with school aged
kids. And a poor example coming from someone who should be acting as a senior
statesman. He is demonstrating the kind of crude discourse that many want to
impose on us in talking about our politicians today. I heard Hatch
at my HS in his first campaign. I was unimpressed then and sad to say, have no
respect for him today. And I'm a lifelong Republican.
Hilarious! he's got my vote!
Forty two years in the senate is wrong; a lot of years on government health
care. Term limits for Congress.
Too funny...DN Moderators are always eagle eyed in their search for
readers making hatch-like comments.Hence, the denied e-mail.Yet hatch gets a pass?Looking forward to more encouraging
civil dialogue and thoughtful comments from hatch..
They say that as a person gets older they lose the "filter" that sensors
what they say. It sounds like Senator Hatch has reached that point.
Vote for Mia Love. We need to give Mitt Romney the support he needs in the
Senate and House. Every vote counts! We must reclaim this country from financial
ruin.Romney-Ryan 2012 God bless America!