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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 16 2012 10:38 p.m. MDT

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wrz
Ogden, UT

OBama did much better....except for the prevaricating. But, if he gives that up he'll have little to brag about.

suess
Salt Lake City, UT

I noticed Obama was campaigning like he was newly running for office. I didn't hear him say "we did this and it worked" or "we are working on this and need to continue". Instead I heard "we have to ..........." like it's a new concept. Never did I hear him say what his presidency has done in the past 4 years -- other than created 5 million jobs -- really? How many were lost? Had to be quite a few with record high unemployment. How many of those jobs were government , not private sector jobs? He touted Obamacare and how good it would be for economy. I've talked to several friends who are in private sector employment who have been told there would be cutbacks to their work hours because they couldn't afford to pay for Obamacare. They weren't told they would lose their jobs, just have hours cut back -- so not only less pay, but now having to find their own insurance and pay out of pocket for it. My daughter would be considered poverty level and she's sick about having no insurance because her work won't offer it as she's parttime student.

wrz
Ogden, UT

KJB1:

"And it wasn't Mitt Romney."

The problem Romney has, is... Obama's the better liar. Plus, Romney had to debate not only Obama but the moderator, Candy Crawley as well. Is she running for president?

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

JWB,

"I am glad the debate had the Libya question posed so that will be part of the foreign policy or lack of foreign policy from this President."

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I don't know what you have to be glad about. Romney was licking his chops when Obama seemed to have blundered into a trap, then suddenly felt the steel jaws close on his own foot upon learning that Obama had indeed referred to the attack as a terrorist attack the day after. Romney thought Libya was his ace to play. It turned into a misfire and he was visibly rattled when he saw he had not done his homework.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

Out here where LDS are few, folks in a bishopric often use the terms pastor or associate pastor to quickly explain their role. It is easily understandable shorthand and the definition includes those who do so not as a full time or paid vocation.

Bishop is a term with a much different meaning in many denominations. It would have muddied rather than clarified.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Inconclusive = Obama won every single post-debate poll.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Truthseeker

“When you give conservatives bad news in your polls, they want to kill you,” he said. “When you give liberals bad news in your polls, they want to kill themselves.”

Hah, so true.

@JWB
"I am glad the debate had the Libya question posed so that will be part of the foreign policy or lack of foreign policy from this President."

Me too, because Obama knocked it out of the park on that one.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

@ old man Obama got in three more minutes that Romney. Get your facts straight.

If arrogance and lying gets points Obama clearly won. He and his lifeline the moderator both lied about the Rose Garden Comment. As a matter of fact she has walked that back.He made a general reference to terrorism but he did not say that Bengazi was an act of terror. His whole group including him for days blamed the video. Come on drones get real.

Again what we saw was Marxism vs Capitalism.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

Do you find it curious that the Moderator/lifeline had the Rose Garden Transcript ready the second Obama called for it.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Obama won. It was nice to see.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@mohokot
"He made a general reference to terrorism but he did not say that Bengazi was an act of terror. "

Only a total and complete idiot, or partisan political hack for the Republican party would claim that a statement about not letting acts of terror stand in our way in a speech about attacks on our embassies/consulates... is not a clearly implied statement that the attack was an act of terror.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

"He [Obama} and his lifeline the moderator both lied about the Rose Garden Comment."

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We just can't trust those liberal news media types, can we? Gotta keep our eye on them every minute cuz we never know what kind of sneaky no good they'll be up to next.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm a Romney supporter but last night I learned how badly Obama wants to keep his golf vacations via the White House.

Desperation!

He refuses to talk about his first 4 yrs. He mostly talked about what he doesn't like about Romney.

I think Obama wants us to just "trust him", but we already did that and it didn't work.

I wish someone would clue me in though on WHY the Republican party agrees to have the moderators be Obama cheerleaders?

mohokat
Ogden, UT

atl34 Is that why for days him and all his minions including him at the United Nations were blaming it on the video. Him again on the view with we don't have all the info.Contradiction? Me thinks you might be the idiot and I am sure a Obama Drone You know unmanned.

Check it out Mr. Rocket Scientist

79Ute
Orange County, CA

KJB:

Obama said "acts of terror" but never linked it to Benghazi. If he had, why would he have spent the next two weeks saying the cause of the murder of our ambassador was spontaneous demonstrations caused by the anit-Muslim video? UN Ambassador Rice went did the Sunday TV show circuit and gave the administration's line - "spontaneous demonstrations" not "acts of terror" - five different times in one day! So why would she do that if the administration had made the correct conclusion on day 1?

The administration blew it, as Secretary Clinton admitted when she fell on her sword for the President yesterday.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Ah, come'on.

We gotta lighten up on these Republicans. They aren't used to being challenged or having to listen to a different side of the story. When you watch Fox, listen to conservative radio and read DN all day, life is so simple, easy and comfortable.

Notice the difference between liberals and conservatives. Liberals are self critical. They were at least able to acknowledge when their "guy" had a bad night. (Many)Republicans are just in denial that their guy didn't win the debate. Even Charles Krauthammer agreed Obama prevailed.

UtahBruin
Saratoga Springs, UT

@ Lefties

Do you blame Bush for the last four years or are you alright with what Bush did? Because last night you did a heck of a job defending Bush. Do you approve of Bush's tax cuts which I think I have heard you deamonize over and over again, yet you extended them and you say you want to extend them again. Now if you don't like them but extend them, don't they now become your tax cuts? You said you called it an act of terror in the Rose Garden the day after the Benghazi attacks. If you did, then why did you parade off into being the celebrity on all the radio and talk shows and say you didn't know? Why did you say in the UN Meetings otherwise? Why did you let Rice report otherwise on several different media outlets? And did you plan for Clinton to take the fall for you? Will you ever take responsibility for the last four years, which is it? Obama doesn't even know what side he is on. This guy is just rhetoric after rhetoric, that waffles back and forth on who to blame.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

UtahBruin,

How I admire your stamina. Putting up a stiff upperlipped defense for last night is really hard work but you're no shirker.

VST
Bountiful, UT

Actually, Obama (with the help of Candy Crowley) may have dug himself into a deeper hole by claiming, he called the attack (supposedly at Benghazi) a "terrorist attack" at his day-after Rose Garden appearance with news reporters.

If he claims that is what he meant, then why (several days later), when he spoke at the UN, did he continue to perpetuate a then circulating story from other administration officials that this attack was caused by a "spontaneous demonstration" due to the release of an anti-Islamic video?

I'm sure this is not over – we likely will hear more about it at the next debate this coming Monday.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

VST,

"I'm sure this is not over – we likely will hear more about it at the next debate this coming Monday."

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It might not be over. I can see how the statement might have been a hypothetical but it can also be read as a definitive. But what stood out in last night's exchange was that Romeny was ready to pounce and Obama was ready for him. Romney was taken back by the turn. Next time they meet for the debate on foreign policy, I expect the Governor to be prepped.

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