Comments about ‘Mormon 'cult' reference removed from Billy Graham website’

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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 16 2012 4:12 p.m. MDT

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Ying Fah
Provo, UT

Now everyone can be all buddy buddy. Kisses and hugs!

See Romney smile? Now if only Franklin could commit.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Religion is so shallow when it pulls these stunts. So which is it, billy? Did god send you a revelation in the past couple days or were you just making all this stuff up? Because I thought god is infallible. Appearance means a lot in these cases and it appears to me that Billy gets more power from his association with the white house than ANY other source.

A Scientist
Provo, UT

Now the Scientologists are all jealous -- "How do we earn legitimacy?" they are asking.

Tom in CA
Vallejo, CA

"We claim the privilege of worshiping almighty God according the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege. To worship how, where, or what they may."

Some pretty shallow and cynical comments above.

Nice PR work Mitt Romney. One excellent example of his ability find common ground, and to bring and unite people together who have diametrically opposed theological views. Not an easy task.

Meadow Lark Mark
IDAHO FALLS, ID

Our goal should be to get along with each other. Isn't that what Christianty should be about? It appears that Mitt Romney has done well. Go Mitt Romney.

Cinci Man
FT MITCHELL, KY

Wow. What a turn of events from Reverend Graham. His own definition labels his own brand of religion a cult. Reverend Graham prays to the Lord Jesus, and you won't find that in the Bible, especially the teachings of Jesus himself who taught us to pray to the Father in his own (Jesus) name. I look forward to the day when Reverend Graham teaches consistent with the Bible in every way - even in this one way. Congratulations Mitt for a great accomplishment. Those things for which Reverend Graham respects you are good attributes to possess.

no fit in SG
St.George, Utah

Gotta wonder what Mitt Romney promised Billy Graham.

JimInSLC
Salt Lake City, UT

I don't need Mr. Graham's approval to validate my belief. The proof of being Christian is proved by a persons acts, not by anothers opinion. After it is no longer a political issue I wonder if the Mormon church is put back on "The Cult List". If it is, who cares. There will always be people that think the church is a cult. And nothing you say will prove to them otherwise.

Dennis
Harwich, MA

@Meadow Lark Mark.....when was it in History that Christianities goal was for everyone to "get along" with each other? That's about the last thing they've ever done.
The article seems so silly. Taking the stripes off a zebra doesn't mean it's not a zebra anymore.

Daniel Haszard
Bangor, ME

Benevolent religions offer hope, compassion, and want peace for your fellow man - even the nonbelievers.
A destructive cult wants power,money, and obedience. All the outsiders must be destroyed (Armageddon). I think that's the big distinction between two different belief systems of high demand cult or benign religion.

Oatmeal
Woods Cross, UT

And if Mitt loses the election, the webpage goes right back up...

It is all about power and money. The LDS Church competes with Billy Graham's income. But Graham wants a voice he can partly control in the Oval Office.

terra nova
Park City, UT

God bless Billy Graham. He is, and always was, a genuinely good man. This development is further evidence of the same.

As for the differences, John once came to Christ and said, "Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part. For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward." Mark 9:38-41 KJV

Remember the words of Christ. Be kinder to each other. Show evidence that His love shines through you.

Red
Salt Lake City, UT

Sooner or later everyone sees the fruit of who we are and when it is good there isn't much else to say.

Harry Case
CITRUS HEIGHTS, CA

I frequently hear the term "commander-in-chief" being used in reference to the president. It is used in such a way as to imply that he is commander-in-chief of the nation. He is not. He is commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed forces in time of war. He does not command the citizenry. He is chief executive over the nation's adiministrative affairs as a whole. We don't have a sovereign king or ruler. The president, along with Congress and the Judiciary) is a servant the people and accountable to us. In the United States the people as a body are the sovereign.

raybies
Layton, UT

What a great leader Romney is to seek prayers from a man not of his faith. I think it speaks truckloads for his character and respect for the religious rights of others.

He's a great candidate and will do our country proud.

codger
Southwest Utah, UT

Billy Graham is a good man, but he isn't God. Probably the "Billy Graham Evangelistic Association" should recuse itself from having to decide who is a cult and who is not, and leave that up to God.

A Scientist
Provo, UT

Daniel Haszard wrote:

"Benevolent religions offer hope, compassion, and want peace for your fellow man - even the nonbelievers. A destructive cult wants power,money, and obedience. All the outsiders must be destroyed (Armageddon). I think that's the big distinction between two different belief systems of high demand cult or benign religion."

That seems reasonable.

Given those definitions, then, what do you make of the following:

"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the kingdom of God on the earth, but is at the present limited to an ecclesiastical kingdom. During the millennial era, the kingdom of God will be both political and ecclesiastical, and will have worldwide jurisdiction in political realms when the Lord has made 'a full end of all nations' (D&C 87: 6)." (LDS Bible Dictionary).

Along with D&C 87:6 and 1:14?

Can you at least see where those might be of concern to "nonbelievers"?

Furry1993
Ogden, UT

Politics sure makes strange bedfellows, as the old saying goes.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Tom in CA

"Some pretty shallow and cynical comments above. "

I think there's reason to be cynical though. There are some faith leaders that seem to be nice about the LDS church when the LDS church has something they want be it a presidential candidate or support for a ballot initiative.

"Nice PR work Mitt Romney. "

The problem is Mitt Romney also is the cause of a lot of people having reduced opinions of the LDS church. Not his fault really, that's just what happens when someone's approval rating is about 50-50.

@JiminSLC
"And nothing you say will prove to them otherwise."

Sadly so. Even as an ex-mormon myself arguing that the church isn't a cult (one would think this would be a rather influential position to be in since it's the demographic stereotyped accurately or not as being most likely to consider the church a cult) I seem to find pushback in the form of 'you just don't want to admit you were part of one'. People seem to need to figure out that a religion/denomination can be wrong without having to be a cult.

JCH
San Diego, CA

Is this entire orchestration about gay marriage? Is it that significant an issue for Graham and his followers, that they'll do an about-face and support the candidate who wants to use all the powers of the the federal government -- a constitutional amendment, even! -- to deny gays the right to marry?

I've been out of the Bible belt for a while, but is it really that big of an issue there?

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