Comments about ‘Proposed Monticello wind farm stirs the air with controversy’

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Published: Sunday, Oct. 14 2012 1:16 p.m. MDT

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Sneaky Jimmy
Bay Area, CA

Wind farms have the capacity to produce 2.5% of US power requirements. They actually produce significantly less than that due to wind fluctuations. To me, wind farms are a terrific eye sore. No matter how many wind farms you build you will always need an alternate source of reliable energy (natural gas, coal or nuclear). Its seems a shame to pollute the landscape of the most beautiful area (so utah) on earth.

DonO
Draper, UT

The NIMBY syndrome is alive, well and prospering. Everyone wants "clean" energy as long as it's in someone else's backyard. It would not be surprising if some of those so vocally opposed to the wind farm also squeal the loudest about development of oil and natural gas reserves. We can't have it both ways, folks. If we want more energy we have to tolerate the occasional proverbial goring of the ox.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

@ Hutterite

Since when are you the "complaint police" that gets to decide policy when someone can complain and when they can't? Just because you don't agree with one person's opinion doesn't make them forfeit the right to express it. Have you never embraced the idea of "free speech" or is it only allowed if you agree with it?

There will always be those against something and those in favor of something regardless of the cost or benefits. But you don't care about visual pollution? Fine. Others, however, might and they are allowed to express that, my friend.

wazzup
Cottonwood Heights, UT

What is the return on investment on a single windmill? How much is the upfront cost and how much energy cost is saved from a windmill.

BTW........by in large, those who favor windmills in their countryside are those farmers who earn tons of money from their placement on their land.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

@ one old man

I hope you feel better this morning after calling people with a different view than yours hypocrties. Have a good day, sir.

AKRay
Wasilla, AK

Most wind turbines aren't even profitable and cost more to build and operate than the energy they generate. I don't know if this is the case with Monticello, but federal tax dollars are often flushed down the drain with wind farm subsidies.

Monticello, don't sell your magnificent skyline to the wind farm folks unless you absolutely know for sure it's a good investment....and your actually willing to look at those monsters everyday. You decide if you like the way it looks. Don't let anyone who stands to profit from the project tell you that "you'll get used to it". I know some of you care for sheep but don't be one!

If the Hole in the Rock pioneers could have only seen what was coming....

Cinci Man
FT MITCHELL, KY

@Sneaky Jimmy

There are tens of thousands of acres of very windy lands in Arizona and across the west that are far from any cities and towns. Wind farms would be great for such areas since those lands are used almost exclusively for growing tumble weeds and grasshoppers. They also provide essential dirt tracks for bikers and other all terrain vehicles who tear up and destroy the landscape, changing it into the beautiful eyesore it is today. What a sight it makes from a passing airplane! My vote would be to turn lots of that windy land into wind farms. They must be productive and cost efficient if they are still building them. The capacity argument of 2.5% you mention is silly at best. If you quadruple the farms, you quadruple the capacity, don't you? It wouldn't take much to quadruple it since there is so little of it today. Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Nevada, and Oklahoma have bazillions of windy acres of land.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

I was informed that many of our power plants operate at about 30% capacity because the transmission grid is inadequate to have them operate at a higher rate. Are there transmission lines already in place for this proposed wind farm or have they yet to be constructed? And if they need to be beefed up to carry the new amount of generated electricity, who's going to be first in line to have the new transmission line go next to their home?

Didn't we read recently where St. George City embraced a solar farm, only to have it go bust in terms of investment and now their citizens are stuck paying for it? UTOPIA also comes to mind in regards to communities jumping at a "great investment idea for the future" that just somehow folds into a huge debt.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Too Smart -- It's only hypocrisy when they contradict themselves.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Three questions:

* Where were these windmills made?
* Are American companies doing the installation?
* How is this benefiting the American economy?

Much of the stimulus money from a few years ago, went to China, Japan, and Australia,-for windmill farms in Texas. We could use the jobs here.

Phillip M Hotchkiss
Malta, Mt

I agree with jtx why should we pay some one to make money for them selfs?

Aggielove
Cache county, USA

I'm a conservative.
And I can't even stand wind farms.
These things wouldn't have survived if it weren't for tax payers supporting them.
Also, at any time, 30% of these wind mills are broke down.
Believe it.

killpack
Sandy, UT

Why don't we build windmills in the hahbah, by the Kennedy's, since they're the ones who love alternative energy so much?

azresident
Mesa, AZ

Any migratory birds pass through the area?

worf
Mcallen, TX

azresident,

Good point. Windmill farms would violate the rights of migrating birds just like Alaskan oil drilling does for the polar bear, and cutting lumber violated the home rights of the spotted owl.

Wonder why EPA is not on this yet.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Meanwhile --

The "Brethern" in SLC have started having us built eco-friendly meeting houses.

Our new Stake Center is covered with Solar Panels.

I think the "Lord" is telling us to Choose The Right, when a choice is placed before you...

Lightening Lad
Austin , TX

J-TX, you failed to take on those 20 points I listed and your sweeping generalization that they are false carries no weight either. Solar cannot generate electricity because it can't get hot enough to bring water to a boil producing steam which then drives turbines. All generation works on the principle in forcing those turbines to spin with dam releases, steam from nuclear super heated water, burning oil, natural gas etc I have been on-site in Calif and New York, home base in TX has nothing to do with it, oil is not burned to produce electricity. Wind is ineffective but financially rewarding, check out the info for yourself, yet it cannot put the local coal fired power plant out of business since wind is INTERMITTANT and people expect to turn up the heat or light and have power right now, so the coal fired plant stays in business causing the worst type of pollution, but it's cheap something that sells in Utah. Do some Google-ing about the money angle which is key here, if you have Netflix search Wind documentary, Dozens of New York farmers were interviewed on the negative effects of wind.

rlsintx
Plano, TX

@ J-TX in Allen TX... You're quite mistaken. Here are the wind generated power stats for the top 5 states:

Texas (10,929 MW)
Iowa (4,570 MW)
California (4,536 MW)
Oregon (3,153 MW)
Illinois (3,055 MW)

Dektol
Powell, OH

Wait til they are up and you will love the noise and vibration both. Higher winds will block much of the noise but lower winds will have those within 3-4 miles think they are hearing trains running all the time the blades are turning. Add in the grinding of the gear noise and you have a miserable experience.
Putting them up is interesting but the traffic will get tiresome. That ends but the night sky with all the blinking lights will drive you nuts. Sunrise and sunsets and clear views will be ruined.
Where will the power be used?

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