Obama is in big trouble. I spent last week in the midwest and they aren't
going to vote for him this time. The polls can say what they want but the
people don't want him for 4 more years. Iowa is a toss up state but Iowa is
really hurting and that spells defeat for Obama. Missouri has simply too many
people that are Christian and believe that marriage is between a man and a woman
so again loss for Obama.
The real change here is in the mainstream media that have been spouting poll
numbers like they were absolute truths, but now question the accuracy of polls
because they don't like the current numbers.In answer to LDS
liberal - integrity does not mean being so dogmatic that you never change your
mind. Besides that, many of these attacks are one-liners with no substance.
"Romneycare" was a 40 page state plan. Obamacare is thousands of pages
of federal mandates that will take power AWAY from the states.
SSMiddleofNowhere, UtahI don't know if I can wrap my head
around you? Your LDS, so how about him serving as a bishop and stake
president? I'm not saying that's why you should vote for him, just an
example of selfless service that I would hope you would understand. =========== The lies, deceit, lack of integrity and down right
Dishonesty are not the values I find in my LDS Bishops and Stake Presidents.Which is precisely WHY I can not support him.I don't know who
the REAL Mitt Romney is....nobody knows.BTW - I liked the old Mitt
Romney, Governor of Massachucetts best and would have even voted for him
[because I'm not a huge Obama fan, and he's fallen short on HIS
campaign promises - i.e, he's not liberal enough].The
Romneycare,Civil Union/Domestic Partnership/Gay-Marriage, Assault
gun ban, Stem cell research, Pro-Choice, Increase the minimum
wage for inflation, Moderate, NorthEast Rockefeller BlueDog
Republican Mitt Romney -- not the Tea-Party Frankenstein Candidate his morphed
into just to appease the radical right-wing.
@ Hutterite,If we are judging by those standards than Obama has
become a complete and utter failure! He promised all those things and
didn't deliver. If you are so strict in your judgement I sure hope you are
not supporting Obama.
I don't know if I can wrap my head around you? You bash Romney
for -Passing Romneycare,and then support Obamacare, which was
formed after Romneycare.Signing for Gay Marriage,and support
Obama who supports gay marriage.Not going to Vietnam,but your
LDS? so I assume you support missions? Right?Your LDS, so how about
him serving as a bishop and stake president? I'm not saying that's why
you should vote for him, just an example of selfless service that I would hope
you would understand. How about him serving as Governor of Mass. and
not accepting a salary?How about saving the 2002 Winter Olympics and
not getting paid?How about the countless stories from people of his
service to them.On the other hand there's Obama,1.5
million tax dollars to the Muslim brotherhood just days after the attacks in
Libya.PROMISING to cut the deficit in half and saying that if he
didn't he would only serve for one term. Then, not delivering and running
anyway.I could go on, but I'm to my 200 word limit.Integrity, it's all about who you REALLY are.Not even close!
Re: Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UTAll during the last 4 years
Obama's cheerleaders have been using Bush as an excuse for Obama's
failures. When Obama got his backsides kicked during the first presidential
debate the liberals couldn't very well blame Bush. Must be Romney's
fault.The blame game, played as it can only be done by liberals
backing a weak leader.
If/When Willmitt wins, I am going to expect only a few things. Mostly, that he
fix everything obama has apparently wrecked in three and a half years. All of
it. Because apparently he can, according to what I've read on these pages.
So, cheaper gas, immigration, debt, deficit, tax breaks, I just want it all
Because you can, mitt. I heard it here. Your alternative, of course, is abject
Obama's presidency and 2012 campaign will be talked about for years to come
when people talk about what not to do. He got elected with the least
credentials of any modern President. He was swept into office in the midst of
an economic crisis with a very non-specific campaign theme of 'hope and
change.' He road a wave of young voters looking to make history. His lack
of economic experience has shaped his policies for four years and led to the
weakest recovery ever. The whole time nobody dared question him on his
philosophy or ask him to add up the numbers. Then comes a debate with a man who
does have some experience in the economy. It was the perfect recipe for
disaster for Obama. The ONLY comeback the left has is that Romney is a liar and
a cheater. (That's not what the American people saw, by the way.) If you
think the debate was bad, wait until election night. I still think the polls
The one who brought a cheat sheet, when notes were clearly NOT to be used
according to the rules?Earth to flat earthers......that so-called
cheat sheet was proved to be a hanky for blowing ones nose........NEXT?
Rifleman said:"Which Romney has the edge in two new polls?""The one who was prepared when he showed up for the presidential debate
with the one that wasn't.The one who brought a cheat sheet,
when notes were clearly NOT to be used according to the rules? Romney
showed he is used to ignoring rules because they don't apply to
"him."Sorry SS Integrity does not mean chameleon like in
SSMiddleofNowhere, Utah@LDS LiberalRomney has shown
integrity throughout his whole life. =========== Really?!Was that before or after he – ...passed
Romney-care?…he liked mandates, because mandates work.…he fought for stem cell research?…he thought minimum wage
should keep up with inflation?...he signed Gay Marriage in
Massachusetts?... he said he'd always protect a woman's right to
choose? …he said Roe v. Wade is the law and we should sustain and
support it?…he was a big game hunter all his life?…he
desired to go off and serve in Vietnam?I could go on and on, but I
only have a limit of 200…Integrity, it's all about who
you REALLY are.
@LDS LiberalLike the integrity of your spelling? Romney
has shown integrity throughout his whole life. That shouldn't even be a
talking point anymore. Maybe we should shift the talk of integrity to Obama who
does what he wants when he wants. Like giving 1.5 million to the Muslim
Brotherhood and adding to the national deficit. Or lying just about every time
he opens his mouth by making promises that he has not and will not ever keep.
Integrity . . . look at your own boy before trying to tear down others.
What, exactly, makes a president a fraud? Obama was elected because the entire
world, including America, was tired of Bush. Romney will be elected because a
little more than half of America is tired of Obama. Does that make Romney now a
Silly.Romney had the lead all the time...its just bigger now and so
disparate that the liberal pollsters can't obscure it any more.That being said I hope everyone knows they are not getting a real conservative
here. do you seriously believe a Conservative could get elected and operate
like he did in Massachussets? Time to come back to reality.No doubt
he is better than the current socialist-in-chief but my fear is we have another
big-spending George Bush on our hands.We need a fiscal conservative
to get this country off its current financial kamikaze mission.
Regardless of which side you are voting for, polls don't matter.
Is this the electoral college poll or popular vote? Which one matters?
@rmanThank you for responding to my comment.I appreciate
your thoughtful clarification...Just one question...The
Which Romney that was prepared for the debate...Was that the
severely conservative Which Romney from the primaries... or was that the one night severely moderate Which Romney?
The Obama apologists are telling us that America is stupid and that Americans
really didn't see Obama for what he really is when he "debated"
Romney. He didn't debate Romney. He stood there as an incompetent school
boy who hadn't done his homework. He was unprepared. He had wasted our
time. He thought that his "good looks" or his "charm" would get
him through the "debate". He was mistaken. Sixty million or more
Americans saw him for what he was - a total incompetent who was supposed to be
Commander in Chief. They saw that he had control of a military where their sons
and daughters served. They saw that he had control of the embassies where their
fellow citizens served. They saw that he had control of all spending and that
he had spent us into bankruptcy. They saw OBAMA for what he was - a fraud who
was unprepared for a debate.No thinking person could still tell us
that Obama deserves to be President, yet those who have abandoned logic still
tell us to vote for Obama. Do they really think that we are fools?
It's awesome to see the Liberals in total panic. The truth always win - the
truth that Obama has no experience and no clue how to be a leader, and the truth
that Mitt is a true leader that shows up in the debate. prior to the debate the
only thing the voters knows about Mitt is the mis-information provided by Obama.
Now the truth comes out and Obama does not know how to deal with it, besides
name calling, that's very presidential, ain't it?Bye-Bye
BO - Go back to Chicago!
According to Ute Alum, apparently those voting for Obama are not Americans. I
knew we had a lot of immigrants here, but I didn't think we had that many,
to put the election at a virtual tie.With that said, frankly, I
don't believe Obama even wants to stay president. He's trying just
hard enough to make it look like he's running, but he can't wait to
hand this country over to Romney.
BTW -- I've listen to 3 months to Romney fans telling us all that polls
don't matter, and at the Liberal Lame-Stream Media is wrong.But
NOW they are right?Hypocrites.Just like their poster boy,
laking any integrity.
Re: WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT"Which Romney has the edge in two new
polls?"The one who was prepared when he showed up for the
presidential debate with the one that wasn't.
The Pew poll that had Obama up by 8 had a 10 point partisan affiliation split in
favor of Democrats (you know, the sort of thing Republicans claimed polls were
biased over). The new Pew poll that has Romney up by 4 has a 5 point partisan
affiliation split in favor of Republicans. That's basically the entire
difference right there. Independents were basically the same in the two polls.
Obviously Romney has gained a lot of ground, but he had a lot of ground he had
to make up and bounces tend to fade slightly over time. I'm
just glad I never thought this election was in the bag for Obama, I recommend
Romney voters do the same. This is far from over and Obama's preferred
debate style, the town hall, is next.
So are these good polls with the right people polled, and the right questions
Which Romney has the edge in two new polls?
Eric Schulzke - an obvious Deseret News shrill for Mitt Romney.Day after
Day he searches the World-Wide-Web in search of ANY shred of posivitve news
regarding his man, Mitt.BTW - Eric,This is STILL the only poll
that matters:Obama 294Romney 224270 is needed to
win.[and that even AFTER that 36 point switch]
Obama groupies:Your boy is behind not because of his pathetic performance
in the debate but because of his horrible policies and his total failure as
president. Americans finally figured this out to be the true Manchurian