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Published: Monday, Oct. 8 2012 8:17 a.m. MDT

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VST
Bountiful, UT

In politics, a lie is only what is perceived to be a lie in the mind of the beholder as colored by his or her political philosophy.

WHAT NOW?
Saint George, UT

@patsy

Polls?

The Right-Wing does not believe in polls...

That was yesterday?

Exactly.

The daily operative question next to what's the weather today, is...

what's Which Romney's position... today?

regis
Salt Lake City, UT

The first comment I read was about Obama being an "empty suit." What I think really happened is that Obama left his suit home, because he looked for all the world on that debate stage like the emperor who had no clothes. How embarrassing.

Anyway, nice to see the two go head-to-head. It was pretty clear who won the debate, and who would do the better job as president. 70 million viewers saw that for themselves, unfiltered by mainstream media commentary.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

re:Uteanymous, Riverton Cougar
You provide no sources, no evidence for your assertions.

Healthcare Timeline
(CNN)
April 21, 2009 -- Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus and Ranking Member Chuck Grassley hold the first of three roundtables bringing together health policy and industry experts to discuss the development of health care reform legislation.

July 15, 2009 -- The Senate's Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee passes The Affordable Health Choices Act. The bipartisan bill includes more than 160 Republican amendments accepted during the month-long mark-up, one of the longest in Congressional history.

October 13, 2009 -- The Senate Finance Committee approves Baucus' landmark health reform bill, the America's Healthy Future Act.

From CS Monitor 8/2009:
Four out of five committees of jurisdiction have completed work on an overhaul of the US healthcare system -- three in the House, one in the Senate.

But the endgame for healthcare reform still turns on six bipartisan negotiators on the Senate Finance Committee -- and the army of interest groups invited in or out of the cone of silence.
The "gang of six" members are: Senators: Baucus D-MT, Conrad D-ND, Bingaman R-NM, Grassley R-IA, Snowe R-ME, Enzi R-WY.

worf
Mcallen, TX

This race shouldn't even be close.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

re:Uteanymous, Riverton Cougar
You provided no sources, no evidence to support your rebuttal.

Healthcare Timeline
(CNN)
April 21, 2009 -- Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus and Ranking Member Chuck Grassley hold the first of three roundtables bringing together health policy and industry experts to discuss the development of health care reform legislation.

July 15, 2009 -- The Senate's Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee passes The Affordable Health Choices Act. The bipartisan bill includes more than 160 Republican amendments accepted during the month-long mark-up, one of the longest in Congressional history.

October 13, 2009 -- The Senate Finance Committee approves Baucus' landmark health reform bill, the America's Healthy Future Act.

From CS Monitor 8/2009:
Four out of five committees of jurisdiction have completed work on an overhaul of the US healthcare system -- three in the House, one in the Senate.

But the endgame for healthcare reform still turns on six bipartisan negotiators on the Senate Finance Committee -- and the army of interest groups invited in or out of the cone of silence.
The "gang of six" members are: Senators: Baucus D-MT, Conrad D-ND, Bingaman R-NM, Grassley R-IA, Snowe R-ME, Enzi R-WY.

Ali'ikai 'A'amakualenalena
Provo, UT

Mountanman Hayden, ID

"The Democrat's strategy is to try to assassinate the character of your opponent, not run on your own merits!"

Considering the source of this comment and the level of Birther nonsense we've had to contend with for the past 3 1/2 years, one wonders what it must be like to live in an alternate reality.

As Jon Stewart said, there is both great height and great depth to (The Republican) Mountain.

DSB
Cedar Hills, UT

@Atl134:

Everything you referenced as lies are merely standard Democratic spin on Romney's claims, to make Romney's claims look like lies because of their made-up assumptions. I'd say that's not very honest of you.

Most dishonest spin - #5: that Romney claimed closing loopholes alone would pay for his tax plan. Romney has never said that closing loopholes alone would overcome revenue differences. He cited several ways that revenue would be generated, including through receipt of vastly increased tax revenues from newly hired people and those who earn higher pay in a resurgent economy. It's not a lie by any stretch, even if it represents a plan that you don't believe will succeed. Calling it a lie is... a lie.

You accuse Romney of lying, but then to support yourself you spout opinions and make dishonest claims. That's very consistent with the Obama team's talking points.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Here's a few more Romney lies...
I noticed after issuing the challenge to name even one lie, the challengers fell mysteriously silent, as more and more of mits lies are revealed.

“I think about half of [the green firms Obama invested in], of the ones have been invested in have gone out of business. A number of them happened to be owned by people who were contributors to your campaigns.”

As of late last year, only “three out of the 26 recipients of 1705 loan guarantees have filed for bankruptcy.

“Mr. President, all of the increase in natural gas and oil has happened on private land, not on government land. On government land, your administration has cut the number of permits and licenses in half.”

Oil production from federal lands is higher, not lower: Production from federal lands is up slightly in 2011 when compared to 2007. And the oil and gas industry is sitting on 7,000 approved permits to drill, that it hasn’t begun exploring or developing.

DSB said: "Everything you referenced as lies are merely standard Democratic spin"
That's funny, Facts aren't spin.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

what has become so disappointing about this process is how it has revealed certain things about people I really wish had stayed hidden. One of the primary disappointments is not with the candidates themselves, but the behavior of those who support candidates. The ease and willingness to say things that in any other circumstances would not be said about other people shows a very clear degradation and acceleration of societies march toward the gutter.

The second was my false expectation that my fellow LDS would conduct themselves in ways different than those who were not LDS. From Reed's unsupported politically driven claims to Romney's say what ever it takes to what ever audience shows that the whole "honest in all my dealings' part of the interview is rather hollow.

Back to the shift in the pools.... I like Romney's new and improved positioning. It shows old guard Republicans are back driving the bus. It that stays true and honest, I would have no problem supporting that crowd. But if this is just a respect from the Tea Party war crowd... I am not interested. Lets see which Romney we really have... if there is a real Romney.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

the polls are most certainly NOT tied. The post debate polls are still coming out and I suspect Mitt will average about a 5 point lead over all when the dust settles. People need to really listen to BO now - pay attention to what he says and not how he says it. BO is all about style with zero substance and his media will doing everything in their power to prop him up as well. Pathetic.

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