Matheson is substance. Love is fluff. Matheson speaks for ALL Utahns, not just
the far right extremes. Love could care less about a person's positions
unless s/he is a member of the far right extremes. It's too bad a lot of
people can't tell the difference. Matheson is the candidate of quality and
substance. Love has neither.
I don't know who writes the headlines, but "gay rights" was a
footnote in this "discussion." The headline is deceptive. The article
focused on lobbyists...oh right, but that topic is not nearly as incendiary as
so-called "gay rights." Nobody cares about gay rights, it's a fake,
conjured right. Gays have every right of every other American--do they need more
than everybody else?
Thank you Doug Wright. one of the burning questions is about gay rights.
right. We are $16 trillion in the hole, we are becoming socialist, we have
corruption in government, Obamacare and terrorists. and that's what
Wright asks about? The only group worse than Obama is the media. Mia Love
will bring so much attention to Utah that will help us, it will surprise us all.
Plus, when push comes to shove, Matheson supports Obama and Pelosi.
Matheson is going to lose. The strategy of attacking Love's record as mayor
is poorly conceived and unconvincing, especially when the residents of Saratoga
and the surrounding communities largely support her record as mayor. Unlike
Matheson's neighbors, Love's supporters are in her district and can
actually vote for her. Ironically if had stayed in the 2nd district
where he resides, he would be running against Stewart whose primary debacle
would have made easy prey for a veteran law maker like Jim Matheson. Lesson: When approaching the grocery checkout, pick a line and stay with it!
How novel, a politician who plans to actually ask us, The People, how we feel
about something, what is working and etc. This is exactly what we need! MAtheson is not change, it will be more of the same. He's already shown
us that he supports Obama's agenda. I'm not sure why the
liberal comment activists are smearing Mia if Matheson supports traditional
marriage also, but I suspect that they hope he will continue to support Obama in
pushing his agenda. Matheson has been in power far too long, and it
really bothers me that Romboy seems to favor him, and I'm still waiting for
the apologies from Doug and Matheson for not denouncing or apologizing for
Matheson, Liberals, Mother Jones, etc and their dishonest efforts to get
Matheson elected, dishonest attacks on Mia's record, and dishonest attacks
on her family's immigration status etc. Matheson denies involvement, but
clearly the smear campaign, the racism, the intimidation, and so on are on his
rE: Furry1993 Ogden, UT" ...a member of the far right extremes
...."Today's far right extremes are yesteryear's far
left liberals. As our world and nation tilts to the left those who believe in
traditional values have been given the bogus label as being "far
right".The truth is that we just believe in the same principles
of morality and decency that your grandmother did.
@dumprake"Gays have every right of every other American--do they need
more than everybody else?"What do you mean more rights? Oh,
you're one of those people who thinks that current marriage law is equal
because men can marry women and women can marry men, aren't you? So if gay
marriage is legal, how would that allow them to have "more" than
everybody else? As a straight guy I could enter in a gay marriage too. I
wouldn't but... if you think current law is equal, then allowing men and
women to marry a man or a woman is equal too because it'd be the same
standard across the board, just with gay people not using the straight marriage
option and straight people not using the same-sex marriage option.
The posters on here would make you believe the Rupub's are running a fair
and honest campaign with only policy proposals and no mud throwing at the
Dem's. The complete opposite is true however. No new ideas, no
transparency (Mitts taxes), and nothing of substance. Don't get me wrong,
I know the Dem's are slinging mud too but for you to call out Matheson and
the Dem's is completely hypocritical. You can't have it both ways.
And what about Chaffetz not living in his district? Doesn't seem to big of
a deal with him but when it comes to Matheson, he is wrong and should live in
his district. The blatant hypocrisy is appalling.
If Love wins its about gerrymandering a district not about sending the best most
capable person to Washington. Her debate performances have been less than
impressive if you are looking for substance, concrete ideas, and knowledge about
the job she is seeking.If you like tea party talking points and will
vote R no matter what, then Love is your choice.
@firstamendment"I suspect that they hope he will continue to support
Obama in pushing his agenda. "Continue? Not at all. As a liberal
I hope Matheson could merely begin to support Obama in pushing his agenda. At
least if he loses he'll have 2 months of lame duck status where he can vote
without worrying about electoral consequences.
I find it amusing that people actually don't understand how a debate work,s
and then congratulate someone for not answering a single question. If Utah sends
Mia they'll get what they deserve more of nothing from the Tea Party, in a
state where drinking tea is prohibited.Mia doesn't understand
even the basics needed to represent Utah, but that's OK she's gunna do
and say everything the GOP tells her to do, just like mitt, No substance just
Some of the comments that are being made so far actually are assumptions rather
than what is actually happening. I have had the pleasure of having Congressman
Matheson come several times to my business to find out actually what the needs
of the community are. I know first hand that he always asks for input so he can
better make decisions that affect each of us. He always has put Utah first and
cares about people. He does not concern himself with what party you are
affiliated with. He truly listens and has worked hard over the years to put the
needs of Utah first. Please look at substance rather than politically based
partisan attacks that do not tell the story of who Congressman Matheson
is.Anyone that has met him knows that he will always put Utah first.
@ Fred44Republicans aren't any prouder than the democrats who will be
more than happy to take a win by hook or crook. You don't think states
back east do a little gerrymandering to benefit the liberal cause?
I believe that Matheson is honestly and truely sincere when he says he puts Utah
first. I think Love would honestly make that same claim. But the issue is not
their motivation, it's their political philosophy. Matheson thinks that
Utah is helped by government involvement in our lives. The problem is that most
of Utah (although we'll see if that includes most of the 4th district come
election day) do not feel that way. Most of Utah would rather have less
government in our lives. I don't really care if either one of them THINKS
they are doing what Utah needs, I care about them actually DOING what Utah
@ Happy Valley HereticMia Love may not have all the knowledge today that
Jim Matheson has acquired over the last 12 years in Congress but 12 years from
now Congresswoman Love will be well seasoned. You need to get used to that name
because you will be hearing it a lot more after November.
wow o at times i vote Democrat. Matheson is far from even remotely being a one.
yes it was utah says is a Democrat. fact is he is only one bscause they wont
allow two republican on one ticket. also this debate if that is what they call
it is a joke. no hard line questions were asked of either candidate. desert news
and KSL would never ask hardline question.
@Flying Finn"You don't think states back east do a little
gerrymandering to benefit the liberal cause?"What would be my
home district if I were still back east had been held by a Republican for a very
long time but after gerrymandering he's a heavy underdog. I think it's
wrong in both cases. "You need to get used to that name because
you will be hearing it a lot more after November."Hopefully due
to accomplishing something of positive substance. I won't hold my breath
though since I've yet to hear or read anything of/from her that is beyond
talking points from a tea party/Ryan type agenda that would cause more problems
than they solve.
Matheson's response to gerrymandering? Run in a district where he
doesn't even live. Can anything be more contrary to the idea of
representative democracy? Utah's 4th district should retire Matheson just
as we are trying to retire Obama, and for the same reason. The Democrat plan
isn't working and as long as Matheson stays in the Democrat party he will
be supporting that plan. He says one thing in Utah and another thing in D.C.
It makes sense to retire Matheson
@sls in MissouriPerhaps the rules are different in Missouri, but in
Utah, a Representative only has to live in the state. We have had a
Representative for four years who has not lived in the district he represents.
His district has been modified to move him into it, but because he is a
Republican, he is given a free pass regarding this issue.
Why is it the "living in your district" argument only comes up from the
Republicans when they are talking about Matheson? If it's good for the
goose, it's good for the gander. Either complain about Chaffetz also or
don't complain about either. I am an Independent that is a little bit sick
of the lopsidedness in this state. Matheson is one of the few that work with
both sides. Mia is far too one sided for me. I am also very unimpressed with her
inability to answer a question off the cuff. She seems to need a prepared
answer. I think she is just a puppet for the RNC. I don NOT like puppets. I
think we will be much better off staying with Matheson. He has my vote.
@sls in MissouriThe late Gov. Mel Carnahan collected enough votes to
beat out incumbent Republican Sen. John Ashcroft for the U.S. Senate seat from
Missouri.Coming from the state that would rather elect a dead guy
than the incumbent Republican.
To Rifleman 12:34 p.m. Oct. 2, 2012rE: Furry1993" ...a
member of the far right extremes ...."Today's far right
extremes are yesteryear's far left liberals. As our world and nation tilts
to the left those who believe in traditional values have been given the bogus
label as being "far right".The truth is that we just believe
in the same principles of morality and decency that your grandmother did.------------------------I was a Goldwater Republican in the
late 1960s, which put me at the far right edge of the Republican party. My
viewpoints have not changed since then. In the late 1960s I was considered far
right; now I'm a centrist and am (inaccurately) called "RINO" and
"liberal" and "lefty" by those to the right of me in the
political spectrum. Senator Goldwater and President Reagan would not be able to
get through the the primary system nor appease those on the far right fringe of
the Republican party because their viewpoints and positions also are true
conservatives (centrist), not far right.The label "far right
extremist" is accurate. The Repblican party has drastically shifted to the
far right. I stand by my comments.
Mia Love is a fresh voice for Utah's 4th District. GO Mia Love.
Re: Furry1993 Ogden, UT"...now I'm a centrist..."Your labels for both yourself and the Republican Party are inaccurate. Anyone
who suggests that there hasn't been a drastic decline in today's
morals when compared to those in the 1960s is only kidding themselves. The
Republican Party has followed that slippery slope, only not as quickly as the
Democrats.You may believe that you are a centrist. Personally I
have a strong belief that the moon is made of green cheese.
Once again, the headline writer for the Deseret News gives an inaccurate
accounting of the fair article written by Dennis Romboy. The headline says both
candidates sidestepped questions in the debate, but the article only contains
information about Love not sometimes not answering the question. No where in
the article is there any indication that Matheson failed to comply by not
answering. So, who is this mysterious headline writer that continues to show
bias for Love?
I'm so glad Mia is winning. When I first meet her I not only knew
she'd be the one to win but to lead.
Re: KCJ Saratoga Springs, UT"I am an Independent that is a little bit
sick of the lopsidedness in this state."You may claim to be an
Independent but on election day you will be rooting for the DNC. And no, as
long as they obey the law on where they live I could care less if a candidate
lives within his (or her) district.By-the-way, Romney's
performance in the first presidential debate didn't hurt Mia Love's
chances for victory on November 6th.