I am not a Taysom Hill fan, yet. All his passing yards came on short routes
with some excellent running after the catch by the receivers. I think his long
passes looked horrible. He's lucky he didn't have more interceptions.
He needs to learn how to lead the receivers and let them catch up to the ball.
Hoffman and Apo were open and he underthrew them time and time again. As has
been said, he only completed 57% of his passes. I'm holding on my
judgement until we see how he does against stiffer competition like the Aggies
this week. I think BYU is in trouble this week. Hopefully, Bronco will have
the "guts" to make the right call and let Hill start. I don't
really care who wins this week as I have been a BYU fan all my life, but am a
USU alum and root for them all other games and am happy when they can beat the
Sports Nutz,After reading your comment it is certain than you name is 50%
Cougar fans! We all need to calm down and look at the situation with a little
more objectivity. Taysom's performance against a horrible Hawaii defense
was good but not great. He had barely 100 yards passing on a 57% completion
rate, and he threw an ugly interception. Against this same defense last year
Riley Nelson threw for 363 yards on a 67% completion rate, with no
interceptions, and he did it with a broken rib and a punctured lung. Dont get me
wrong, I think Taysom has the potential to be a very special quarterback for
BYU, but Bronco is right not to get caught up in all the fan hype and anoint
another freshman the way he did with Jake Heaps. Nelson is the senior and the
chosen leader of this team, and if he is healthy he should be the guy. If he is
not healthy then Taysom should start, but he should start as the backup. Having
said that, Nelson should be on a short leash if and when he starts again. Bronco
and Doman waited too long to pull him in the Boise State game and it cost BYU
RE: 61Cougar "The losses to Utah and BSU are squarely on the shoulders of
the head coach and offensive coordinator. The Board of Trustees needs to bench
those guys." Amen, brother! I couldn't agree with you more.
@moderateinmagnaSo in your mind, one cannot criticize unless he
could do better? That's absurd. I don't think I have the time,
knowledge, intellect to be president of the U.S., but I still believe I can
voice my opinion regarding presidential decisions. Likewise, I could not coach a
D-1 football team. However, I can opine on a coaching decision that is clearly,
in my opinion, based on poor judgment and/or unwillingness to admit error.
Taysom Hill showed he is clearly a notch above Riley Nelson, even in spite of
his inexperience. And Hill would be a very quick study with each game in which
he plays.Sorry Bronco - you should not let your pride dictate your
decision making when it comes to the most important position on the BYU football
team. Hill is the better QB. Start him next Friday.
@Wayne Rout i suggest that you apply for Broncos job at BYU if you think you
can handle the job,if not i suggest you shut up and let Bronco be the
coach ,and stop the constant complaining ,all i have heard from you is your
constant rants against Bronco and i for one am tired of hearing it,and i,m
sure there are others as well just be quiet and stop trying to be the coach
or go apply
Silent LurkerYou're just jealous that gimmes aren't
"automatics" for the kids on the hill.Although that's
almost always the case for Bronco, it's decidedly not the case for Kyle,
who's proven time and time again that he's capable of losing to
ANYBODY - see 10-loss Colorado and 10-lost UNLV!
@A1994Only blind BYU fans will over look USU next week after the
last 2 games I expect it to be close and defense controlled low scouring game
something like 17-14 no prediction on who wins I am not as talanted as chris b.
Looking forward to a good game
eagle43 - The losses to Utah and BSU are squarely on the shoulders of the head
coach and offensive coordinator. The Board of Trustees needs to bench those
Hey sports nutz. I don't know about winning the game but I am pretty sure I
could outplay Riley! Thanks for the compliment anyway.
Part 2. Our losses to Utah and Boise are squarely on Riley for failure to take
himself out of those games when he was obviously injured and couldn't make
plays on just his leadership and heart. I like what Bronco has done for BYU
Football since becoming head coach. It would be so refreshing, however, if he
could manifest the same leadership and courage he says he admires in Riley to
make the much needed quarterback change for the good of the team and the good of
the program that has been absent in his coaching decisions during the Riley era.
Part 1. Bronco and Doman just don't get it. After seeing the future of BYU
Football in the hands of Hill last night, his first comment following the game
is that Nelson, so long as he is or can get healthy is his starting quarterback.
They gave up on Jake Heaps in favor of Nelson last year and continue to place
their full trust and loyalty in Riley rather than giving what's best for
the team that same measure of trust and loyalty. Although Riley unquestionably
has leadership and courage, he has demonstrated that he has no other discernable
skills such as passing the football and making consistently good decisions in
@Alpine Coug"Utah State will be a very interesting game-as the
Aggies are an underrated power to be reckoned with."Thank you.
You are one of the first BYU fans I've seen who isn't expecting the
Aggies of old to show up on Friday night. This is a different team. I think
too many BYU fans are expecting an automatic 'W' in this game.
@ Y Ask YYes, a 22-year old true freshman. Exactly how many times
did the two ESPN announcers make that point? No more than 20-25 at least.With no mention of the amazing 17-year old true freshman Jamaal Williams
age.Actually, this is two shutouts in a row for the Amazing defense,
as they did NOT allow a single point last week against high-octance Boise State.
The only points came off BYU Offense.This may be a once in a
generation BYU Defense.Utah State will be a very interesting game-as
the Aggies are an underrated power to be reckoned with.
Great game Cougs. It was great to see the offense get going after a couple of
down weeks. The D is simply outstanding. I hope we can keep this type of
performance going. Congrats to the men in blue!
If Bronco really cares about the team, fans, and winning, he will start Hill
going forward. However, his ego and love affair with Riley are first and
foremost in his mind. Riley will start against USU and BYU will lose. Bronco is
not stupid; he knows Riley hurts the team, but he is unwilling to admit that
fans/media are right and he is wrong.
A win our Cougs had to have. They did exactly what they should have done on the
ground against such a pourus Hawaii defense. However, let's keep the game
in perspective. Utah State will be tougher competition, and then we get Georgia
Tech, et. al. I'm still concerned we're not able to get the ball into
our playmaker wide outs more often- Apo and Hoffman. But, great outting for Hill
to get his confidence going.
It is so nice to see all the fans jump off the Riley band wagon for the next
great BYU QB. And, help who was the QB that helped the Y beat that horrible USU
team last year?
There may not be a QB controvery in Bronco's mind, but there is in every
fans mind. Nelson has grit, determination, leadership and experience. Hill is
a better athlete, a better runner and seems to read the defense better.
Hill's only bad play against Hawaii was his interception. Nelson can be
counted on for two or three bad plays each game. Neither are great passers.
With a season or two of experience, I expect Hill to become as good of a passer
as Beck or Hall. Coupled with his ability to run, he could become a legend.
Loved watching him leave the DBs in the dust on the TD run.I expect
Nelson to start against USU, but hopefully he'll be on a short lease. If
he struggles like he did against the Utes and BSU, I expect Bronco to make the
switch. After the game, he will explain the switch by saying that Nelson has
not fully recovered. If he doesn't make the switch, and we lose, Holmoe
will have him Bronco on the hot seat.Issy, Williams, Lasike, and
Bills all had great games. The future looks bright. Go Cougs!
Let's let Riley heal and give Hill another chance. Even though
Hawaii's defense is ranked very low, we did have a good game and Hill does
bring in an ability to throw. I love Riley as a leader and a football player.
He has guts. But i am thinking another game against a quality opponent with
Hill would tell us a bit about his ability.Congrats on the great
game and the Defense. This may be the best defense BYU has ever had. I think
the USU fans are now wary of BYU.
Silent Lurker, every team has gimmies. I mean, look who those SEC teams are
playing this week... Anyhow, it was a fun game to watch, I enjoyed
the run game. Taysom has a long ways to go before he could be considered a good
passer, but man is he fast!The defense looks good once again--it'll
be interesting to see how they stack up against teams with speed like Notre Dame
and Oregon State, etc. These'll be the real tests.
A 22 year old true freshman?Seriously?
Win number three against the seven gimmes on the schedule. BYU fans you only
have four gimmes left, and USU is not one of them. (toss up game) USU is better
team than the UH that you faced this week. Good luck cougars.
toosmart, at what point did I cite anything about the Aggies? It's funny
you tell me not to cite things about the Aggie games, and then you go ahead and
do it anyway. But, you do make some points, not good mind you but points none
the less. You say Hawaii scored 10 points on then #1 USC, being ranked #1 and
actually being anywhere close to #1 are two totally different animals and as we
have seen the past 2 weeks Usc is once again NOT even close to #1. As for the
push off it was in fact the correct call and even if not called would have only
been a chance to tie the game. As for USU beating the Utes (with White) and ybu
losing to them (without White) I won't say anything and let the results
speak for themselves. USU and ybu both have great defenses this year, but my
guess is the y loses to USU, ND and Oregon State.
Sweet mercy. Riley Nelson is not a good quarterback. He is a great teammate,
leader and football player. He is not a good quarterback. I can see going with
Riley over Heaps because Heaps had skill but was a complete headcase and
couldn't lead the team or keep his head straight. Taysom,
however, has the leadership and intensity that Riley has but he also has skill!
I am very glad Taysom didn't start the season. I think it was good for him
to ease into it like he has. He has been used well. But at this point it is time
to turn the starting job over to him. We are not playing for a national
championship obviously, let's give him as much time as we can now before
next season. I have never spoken poorly of Bronco, I even liked the
two-point conversion attempt, but I will really be disappointed if he keeps
playing Riley Nelson. He is simply not good at that position. He has ONLY played
well against poor competition. We don't know how good Taysom will be, but
we know he needs reps before next year.
That was a nice win! We are also seeing some future stars emerging. Good to
see couple of young running backs make a big impact. Hill had a nice game and
has some serious wheels. That safety chasing after him on the td run was losing
ground. Sad to see Alisa out though. Anae and the Oline looked much improved
as well.I love our defense. Ansah and Van Noy are so fun to watch
and the future is bright with Kaufusi.All in all a great game and
the program seems to be heading in the right direction after a year or two of
confusion. Hopefully Doman is getting some good experience as OC and the
learning curve is getting more manageable. It is going to be a fun
ride the rest of the way. I think we beat USU and then the season gets really
fun.The alternating colors in the stands looked pretty good on the
replay I just watched. Nice job by the fans! Good to see a full house as
well!Go Cougars. Beat the Aggies!
I want to give a shout out to Ziggy A. What a stud! This kid is freakishly
athletic and will only get better the more he plays. He has the size and
stature of my South Carolina Jadevion Clowney who was the #1 recruit in the
country out of high school in 2011. This BYU defense is good and we as BYU fans
should enjoy this team. If the offense can get it together it could be one of
those "If only we would've beaten..." seasons. (Already is but we
can ruin some others' seasons. So sit back and enjoy folks...I know I
Here's a tip BroncoYou weren't hired to be a Fan.You
weren't hired to be anything other than a Coach.That's what you
are paid to do.A Million+ dollars a year, I might add.That
means being objective and leaving your emotions out of it.Every year BYU
loses 2-3 games they should win.Why? Because you're not
evaluating your players ability objectively.And remember Bronco, this is
BYU's program, not yours. You are only it's current steward, act
accordingly.Now, you can remain to post 8-10 wins a year or take the
next step.........Taysom Hill is by far the best QB on your team.Do what's right. The fans deserve it.
There you have it folks, in print. Fire Bronco, hire Wayne, all our problems
It's hard to fathom how Bronco could even consider going with Nelson over
Hill. In a head to head match-up, Hill would win in every category. Isn't
it Bronco's job to field the best team possible? Sounds like his ego is
over riding his common sense.
Great game. Big loss of Michael Alisa. We hope he recovers quickly. Back
injuries of any kind are so painful. We also wish Riley Nelson well. It was
great to see him on the sideline cheering and encouraging his teammates on and
off the field. He's a great leader. Taysom Hill defied the odd makers who
said a true freshman could not win his first starting game. This team needed a
BIG win Friday so that whoever the QB or RB is, they know they can work together
and win. The BYU defense is stunning!Go Cougars!
Bronco quote reported in the national game story but not in the Deseret News: "I am a Riley Nelson fan."Nothing has changed
since the Boise game. Riley (healthy or not) vs. a highly motivated
Utah State team should scare all BYU fans, including the head coach, who seems
to place pluck and grittiness over talent in his player evaluations. Later games with Notre Dame, Oregon State, and even Georgia Tech are downright
terrifying given the recent history against all but the weakest of schools.
Sportz NutzHawaii scored 10 against USC when the Trojans were the #1
ranked team in the country and the game was in southern California. Even though
they lost by allowing Nevada to score 69 last week, they still scored 24 in that
game. Give some credit where it's due and don't bother citing the
USU/Utah vs BYU/Utah games as a comparison because like the field goal you
missed and the one we missed, had Utah not been called for Offensive Pass
Interference they would have defeated USU. So the games have been close with
USU finally winning a close one this year, as opposed to last year when they
couldn't win if it were handed to them in a bag. They also lost a close
one again, too, this year.How many 3-2 teams are two plays away from
being 5-0? Just expect a good, close game in Provo again this year. I can
Hawaii's only hope was for Riley to play. He will be playing against Utah
State so we can chalk that game off. Bronco cannot admit to a mistake be it
going for two or making Riley the starter. To play anyone else at quarterback
would be admitting a mistake. Notice Bronco's constant jabs directed at
Jake Heaps as he compliments Riley to Hill by mentioning things that allegedly
Heaps had as weaknesses. It was very hard for him to find anything good to say
about Hill. It seemed clear to most folks who should start the remainder of the
season, but not to Bronco. According to BYU TV, the Offensive Coordinator did
not know Hill was starting until after arriving at the stadium. Do we have an
Riley isn't hurting that badly. He could have played tonight. I hope Bronco
uses this injury excuse as the reason to bench Riley again next week. It
doesn't matter that Hawaii didn't play well, Hill is a much better QB.
Riley starting against USU = loss for BYU.
Taysom Hill reminds me of a 'what might of been' former Utah QB Corbin
Louks. The Utes went with Wynn and Cain when Louks was the #1 QB going into fall
camp. When Louks lost the starting job, he bolted town (Heaps style). Taysom Hill has better speed than Riley and can also take hits. Louks was even
faster with a clocked 4.2 time in the 40. He could fly. Hill probably has the
better arm and throwing motion. Although Louks had a strong arm to throw it
deep. It's just he had an awkward throwing motion and we never saw his
intermediate game at Utah. It was either do a QB run or throw deep. Hill is put
together a little better. Louks had the wire build. Hill is trim but has more
frame.I am not sure Louks would have panned out, but despite the
promise Wynn showed his freshman year (4 surgeries ago), Louks might have had a
good two year run for Utah in 2009 and 2010.Hill has a ways to go
but his game time hopefully will increase if you are a Cougar fan, and more time
and experience is needed.
Note to Real Bass......Hawaii is horrible and you could have been the QB and byu
still would have won tonight. Hawaii gave up 69 points last week at home.
Note to bronco Riley isn't feeling well and wont feel any better this
season. Stay with Hill.