Re: Truthseeker SLO, CA"Every election Republicans pull out the
"welfare queen" slogans."No, every day we shake our
heads in amazement at women who find a junked car in a wrecking yard and think
they can change it into a Cadillac. When they find they can't change their
man they turn to the taxpayers to pay the tab.Ladies, you
aren't going to change that man your dating. He has no intention of
marrying you or supporting the children he helped create.
If only Elder Maxwell were alive. He often warned us about the effects of
secularism. Not the least of them is fostering Hillary's "It takes a
village..." mentality.On the face of it the idea speaks to our hearts
about unity and caring. But in reality it is the politic creation of dependent
voters.Only the family can teach the work ethic. Surely government cannot
replace the family. And this problem is a prime example.
At first I heard conservatives say, "We certainly do believe in charitable
giving, but just prefer that it be done through voluntary donations, not
government programs."Now conservatives dare reveal what is
really in their hearts by claiming, "Actually, charity is bad. It enables
those who have caused their own poverty. I'm rich because I earned
101 ways you are comparin a union job to welfare. Are you serious. I have a
union job with UTA and yes good benefits. So what. I work as hard as anyone
poster on here. What a ridiculous analogy. Good paying union jobs are what this
DVDfacilitating and reinforcing poor behavior does not help the poor
at all, but dooms them to further poverty
Let's re-emphasize what has been said already: "Society is defined, in
large part, by how we treat those who are most vulnerable in our community,"
Or, for those that claim belief, if you saw Jesus back during his
mortal life, among the poor, teaching people to give, what would you have
thought of him? Would it be any different than how you think of the poor and
those you call liberal now?
Heartbreaking. Perhaps this mother should be taught nutrition & money
management....feeding her little kids french fries is not a good use of limited
funds and will create obesity issues.
Recently NBC with Brian Williams had a townhall-type program on education. I
wasn't able to watch much of the program but i was very impressed with a
particular teacher. She talked about how she worked as a social worker but then
switched to teaching after a few years. She made the effort to visit with the
parent(s) of every child in her class. She went to their homes and when that
wasn't possible she met them in other places--even in cars in a parking lot
if necessary. She provided them links to resources and even brought goodwill
clothes if needed. Imagine if every adult, every teacher, every coach took that
interest and effort in a family or a child. However, mostly we are
self-segregating and many of us don't interface with people living in
poverty. People could participate in big brother, big sister type programs.
We need more substance abuse programs and mental health services for
those who can't afford treatment. Sometimes care is available but it lacks
consistency. I know someone with a mental disorder who qualifies for services
but sees a different psychiatrist every time she goes.
Every election Republicans pull out the "welfare queen" slogans.
Welfare was reformed in the 90's by a Republican Congress and a Democratic
president. Republicans should be better informed as to the elements of the
reform. I see the elements of generational poverty. I believe the
key is early intervention and education.I see children damaged by poverty,
neglect, emotional/physical abuse repeating the cycle when they become
adults.I've seen kids with absent/uninvolved fathers become young
adults (both sexes) seeking "love" in all the wrong places. We need to
break the cycle. Educating our youth about birth control, the stark statistics
of single-parenthood linked to poverty and the increased likelihood of abuse of
children by co-habitating, non-biological partners are significant.There is a double standard in our society where we accept promiscuous behavior
of males and we don't educate males about the critical importance of their
roles as fathers. Kicking people off foodstamps and other assistance
programs won't solve the problem. The fact remains that poverty has
decreased over the past 60 yrs due to govt. programs. It really will take a
village to break the cycle.
Proof that the cures promised by the "Great Society" beginning in 1964
have not materialized, and that the entire liberal welfare plantation scheme has
been a total failure as far as helping those in poverty. What we have seen is
the destruction of the family unit, the acceptance (or even encouragement) of
unwed pregnancies, and the removal of many consequences for making bad choices
or bad behavior.I feel sorry for the four children this girl had,
starting at age 17 while still in high school, with still no husband in sight.
Don't they teach sex ed in schools, and if so, why are hard working intact
married families being forced to reduce their standard of living to support
people who refuse to at least practice birth control if not abstinence? How
come no child support from the fathers for their offspring? It's just us
taxpayers supporting her family. Rewarding BAD behavior with WIC,
SNAP, health care, welfare, free housing, etc just begets more bad behavior.How about rewarding GOOD behavior and reducing the tax burden for those
who choose to have children only after they marry?Of course,
charitable contributions to help the poor are encouraged.
There is actually some skill involved in knowing how to game the system. A good
panhandler can clear $300 a day.
She thought having a child would make him change his partying ways.DUH!!By sleeping with him with NO commitment on his part, you
FACILITATED his partying ways.See Dadof5sons's comment upon the
consequences of choices.
Sadly, self-reliance is passe and not in keeping with America's "gimme,
gimme more" mentality. Gov't entitlements have stifled the
working/lower classes and removed incentives for success, upward mobility. Just
look at the "Obamaphone video" highlighting the Lifeline program on
youtube. Voter-consumers are increasingly swayed by what they can
get from the productive class and government....bad news for the Romney-Ryan and
GOP ticket. Why work hard, the gov't will give me - mobile phone, food
stamps, health care, housing, education, etc. - what I deserve. Pathetic.
This is so heartbreaking for the beautiful children. So sad. Obviously education
on preventing pregnancy should be taught to this mother as well as feeding her
children better! Seriously french fries should not be in the vocabulary of one
so little. She is in no situation to raise all of these children. She should
really consider the selfless act of allowing her children to be placed in
adoption so they can have a better life. I live in South America and there is no
welfare here but you do find the same pattern that those raised in a poor family
tend to be poor themselves but it is definitely more of a class system here then
Here we go with education leading the way as road to salvation and out of the
pits of poverty. Public or college education has nothing to do with poverty,
success, or becoming one of the hated rich and successful without the help of
government documents (degrees or debt).There is a very simple way to
end poverty, cut off the money. This country had no problem with poverty to
prosperity until socialist wanted to end self-sufficient prosperity. Welfare
"is" a multi billion dollar industry in Utah politicians don't want
to lose control of.Welfare families are the product of the
government funding and when you apply for welfare is like applying for a union
job with security and benefits college graduates can't get working as
associate for WalMart.Children follow in the foot steps of their
parents? Mankind has been doing it forever and its how we preserve our heritage.
Welfare is a learned skill and some have learned it well and how to fool
governemnt to be their rich uncle, and the more they whine the greater the
rewards.Prosperity is the product of being well paid self-sufficient
independent Git-R-Done American.
Oh the Liberal victim mind set! Saying your poor because your parents were poor
is a falsehood. You inherent bad heart genes and cholesterol problems. Having
children out of wedlock is a choice. The Democrat mantra of the rich keep
getting rich and the poor keep getting poor has some truth to it. Why do the
rich keep getting rich? and the poor keep getting poorer? It is simple the rich
keep making the wise and right choices were as the poor keep making same dumb
choices, Like drop out of high school! Keep wanting to party! having kids out of
wedlock. becoming a slave to the government dole and not bettering oneself. As
one who is a recovering addict the best thing that changed my life was when no
one would help me! I had to hit rock bottom before I decided to make a change. I
am not advocating not helping those children. I am saying we need to over haul
the welfare system. and help them learn to be self reliant and not dependent on
the Government who is an enabler to keep people poor.