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Published: Friday, Sept. 28 2012 4:29 p.m. MDT

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Blue AZ Cougar
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Harry Reid isn't the face of Mormonism either. Keep that in mind too.

Wilf 55
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

If looked at without political emotion, Greg Prince and Harry Reid rendered a great service to Mormonism. As Michelle Cottle mentioned in the article:

"For all its progress, Mormonism is still viewed with unease by many Americans who see it as secretive, hierarchical, and controlling. The squabbling between Reid and Romney could help promote the message (fervently stressed by church leaders) that Mormons do not march in cultlike political lockstep anymore than, say, Southern Baptists or Catholics."

This is even more valid on a worldwide scale. In all countries Church PR loves to mention Harry Reid as an example of the church membership's diversity and plurality -- to counter the image of Mormons as all Republican or, worse, extreme right wing nuts.

k7dsn
Orem, UT

I feel sorry for Harry Reid. He has lost his compass and seems to be angry against the truth. Mitt Romney is the Face of Mitt Romney. Harry Reid is the Face of Harry Reid. However they as with all of us reflect what we truly believe. Our reflections also show our faults as well as our successes. When Harry Reid starts pointing fingers,calling names and telling distortions, his reflection/image also show what is really inside, as we all do. I suggest we all stick to truth and real facts and be just a bit kinder. None of us make ourselves look better when we try to make others look bad.

Furry1993
Ogden, UT

To What Ever 9:39 a.m. Sept. 28, 2012

I can imagine that Harry Reid was the bully on the playground when he was a school boy.

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Actually that was Willard Romney. Senator Reid never assaulted a boy and cut his hair like Willard did.

Tiger5
Cache county, USA

What does sullied mean?

Tyler Ray
Taylorsville, UT

Harry Reid isn't making these comments because of religion. It's simply dirty filthy politics and he's using his and Mitt's religion as a pawn in his political game plan. I think it shows the lowest level of integrity and character. The only one who is making Mormons look bad is Harry Reid.

middle class
Cedar City, 00

Mitt referred to the "47%" and he was in great error about those folks when he labelled them "irresponsible", "victim" and "dependent".

But what he didn't do was describe the other groups:
1. A second 47% which includes most of us: middle class, working hard, but still only a major injury, disease or financial stumble from bankruptcy.

2. 5% who are rich, pay few taxes and secure from disaster.

3. The top 1%, which Mitt is in, who know little about the "lower" 94%. They are insulated from us. They live in a world without the many worries and difficulties we face.

Mitt opened up a class battle with his comments. They indicate how he perceives the American society. And how separate he is from us.

Tekakaromatagi
Dammam, Saudi Arabia

I have no comment about this controversy, but Harry Reid is not progressive and he sullies progressivism speaking as if he is progressive.

rhappahannock
Washington, DC

I really don't think either Reid or Romney is the face of Mormonism. Debating whether a person is a better member of the church is also pretty stupid ground to be standing on.

It is better to be focused on the issues. On the national level, one such issue is obviously the election. However, one issue that should be getting more debate is whether state taxpayers should subsidize the athletic departments of BCS schools. Why should athletic teams that get money from billion dollar TV contracts need taxpayer subsidies? Locally, the UU gets ~$10 million per year according to USA today. Why aren't the local newspapers taking the legislature to task over this waste of educational resources?

middle class
Cedar City, 00

Harry Reid is from that 47% that Mitt referred to. Growing up, his family likely paid no income tax. They were "dirt poor". But hard working, honest and reponsibible, instead of irresponsible or dependent or victims. Harry's personality was forged from the heavy burdens he carried. He had a good mother, but not a good father.

Harry is real, upfront, honest, thoughtful, responsible ...

Mitt isn't.

JAN TAYLOR RILEY
SAN CLEMENTE, CA

The face of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is Jesus Christ.

UtahBruin
Saratoga Springs, UT

@atl134

If you remember, what he said was "about 47%", if the 47% completely accurate or not, I knew what he was trying to say and it is truthful, and you know what he was trying to say as well. Let me address some of your other questions. He didn't say 47% didn't care about responsibility and neither did I. Those who took it as an insult are mostly those who do take advantage of the system and those who want to try and ride a true statement and twist it to make him look bad. Again, didn't say all those you mentioned who are working don't care, neither did he! It was a true tax statement, you admit this. And most low income earners are not receiving a mortgage tax deduction, stretching it to what yo want to believe. Nope, they all don't vote for Obama, some will vote for Romney. Don't twist this like the left is doing. You are a smart guy, I know this, I read your post, but your twisting it. You know darn well what he meant and what he was saying and who he was talking about.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Harry Reid has combined his religion with Government. Does anyone even wonder what happens when someone does this? All are influenced by their values, but when someone begins to act as if they are one and the same, it is scarey. I am convinced that Harry feels stronger about government than his so called religious convictions. Sorry Harry, Jesus never appealed to Rome to solve poverty. Rome, nor socilaism (Harry's subsitute for religion), is a part of His kingdom. Harry, however, is not the problem. It is his followers who lack individual conviction.

Wildcat
O-town, UT

Only a little over a month left and the Romney Reader will have to cover the loss of Willard. At the end of the day, Harry Reid will still hold the highest political office an LDS member has had--Senate Majority Leader.

Sorry for all you sensitive righties who put Mitt on a pedestal that he shouldn't be on. I think Harry would be the first to say he isn't the face of the LDS Faith either. If it has to be put to one it would either be the Prophet Joseph Smith or the Savior, but I think the larger point Harry was making was don't associate the LDS religion with the insensitive 47% comment.

In the scriptures, Jesus left the ninety-nine to go after the one. He didn't say, "he/she will never take responsibility, so that is not my concern."

Keep telling truth to power Harry!

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

Well if reid says it then it must be. After all reid was spot on with obamacare, spot on the war, spot on increasing our debt, spot on increasing the deficit, and he hasn't passed a budget in over 6 years.

Mormons at least teach frugality and living on less than you make. I guess reid isn't the face of Mormonism either. He couldn't even get the name of his religion right. It's The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Silly reid.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

Isn't that discrimination what reid said?

It sounds like when hitler and the ss claimed they can tell who a Jewish person was by the size of the nose, head etc. How do you tell what religion someone is by looking at them?

If reid claims his religion, and barack claims Jesus and the bible direct them in their welfare, entitlement and steal from others policies. Then why didn't Jesus just come down and run for office and redistribute the wealth? Why did he take time to teach people how to think, act and be independent? Why didn't he spend more time with the "learned" "lawyers" "rulers" to bring about "change".

Just saying, if they're going to make the claim. Then clarify or explain what they mean by it.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

JAN TAYLOR RILEY
SAN CLEMENTE, CA
The face of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is Jesus Christ.

10:55 a.m. Sept. 28, 2012

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Agreed,

And Jesus was a tolerant, inclusive, Progressive Liberal who wasn't rich, spent his ministry healing the sick and afflicted, feeding the hungry, the women and children, the widows, the homeless, the blind, the beggars, the harlots, the NON-Chosen, even raising the dead.
He was friends and loved the most reviled and hated of Societiy. His was a message of Hope.

He also reapeatedly chastened the rich, rebuked the ruling class, turned over the Money Changers tables, and when questined about taxes - told the people to stop rebelling and just pay them.

That would be the Face of true Mormonism.

I don't see that in Mitt Romney.

BTW - Jesus was crucified by the ultra-Religious Conservatives back in his day.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

banderson,

"Harry Reid has combined his religion with Government. Does anyone even wonder what happens when someone does this?"

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I've got news for you. It's been going on for years in the Mormon Church and it's invariably the hard right wing that does. Liberals have been a timid crowd at Church and Ward functions until now. The Romney candidacy has done a lot to inspire liberal Mormons to find their voice. Whether that's for the better is debatable. But at least Mormon neocons who have never been shy about voicing political views now know we're there.

Jon W.
Murray, UT

We warn that individuals who violate covenants of chastity, who abuse spouse or offspring, or who fail to fulfill family responsibilities will one day stand accountable before God. Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets.

We call upon responsible citizens and officers of government everywhere to promote those measures designed to maintain and strengthen the family as the fundamental unit of society.

Are these two paragraphs familiar to you? Are they familiar to Harry Reid? Does he think government welfare strengthens the family?

woolybruce
Idaho Falls, ID

Like it or not Romney has fumbled and bumbled the campaign, much with the help of the Republican Party. Is his fumbling the reflection on Mormonism, I can't tie the two together. What is the reflection on Mormonism appears to be the blind loyalty to him and the likes of Glen Beck. When someone such as Romney fumbles, it is one thing. When the loyal fan base attempts to describe the fumble as a 75 yard run it become delusional. And of my friends that are active and participating in the LDS Church, that seems to be their stand, it wasn't a fumble it was a 75 yard run.

That may work in Utah and Idaho, but in the key states such as Florida and Ohio, who will decide the election it is clearly a fumble on the opponents 5 yard line. And time is rapidly running out.

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