VST Bountiful, UTYou need to keep things in perspective. January
20, 2009, was the day Obama was sworn into office. While Republicans don't
like to hold Bush responsible for 9/11 which occurred 8 months into his
administration, they pounce on Obama for conditions that existed the day he came
into office.There is a definite lag between when a president takes
office and his begin to have an affect. If a million jobs were lost in January,
2009, one doesn't say it was the policies enacted under the Obama
presidency that failed. The whole thesis in your statement makes this fatal
error of timeliness. And then there is the tactics of the opposition Party to
make Obama a failure as president and utilize the filibuster in the Senate up
until they took over the House. It will take presidential
historians to cut through the chaff and understand this president's legacy.
Did he make mistakes? Yes. Will Romney be better with the same situation?
Not if he is a retred of Bush II with the same old ideas. We've had almost
20 years of Republican policy since 1980 making America what it is today.
Mountanman Hayden, IDIt's not the simple statement that 47% of
Americans don't pay federal tax. It's the statement that they are
"victims", live off government handouts, and will vote for Obama because
they "refuse to take personal responsibility" for their lives. The 47%
includes Democrats, Republicans, Independents, rich (corporations and wealthy
people with smart tax accountants) and poor (who earn very little), and any
number of others who, for one reason or another, do not pay federal income tax.
How many times must you be reminded of the context of the comment.
As for taxes, a great majority continue to pay payroll taxes. And everyone,
EVERYONE, pays sales taxes. Next time you'll be complaining about those
people who don't pay property taxes because they don't own
property.It also says that 43% of Americans will vote for Romney
regardless of how much they don't like him, they just like Obama even less.
Like yourself, they have their various reasons not to want Obama in the White
House, but they should come up with better reasons than the reasons you give.
Politics is self-interest even without the nonsense.
Well, it's a large demographic. One wonders which slice of the statistical
population was cited in the story. White, upper middle-class, Mormon voters in
VST,I am sure when your boss told you to bring him solutions not
excuses he empowered you to solve the problem. Maybe its time for a quick 5th
grade lesson in the constitution. The President has no power to spend one dime
of tax payer money or create laws that power rests with the congress. The
republicans starting right after the election have made it there soul goal and
purpose to "Make Barack Obama a one term President". They did not care
how far they drove the country into the ditch doing it. The democratic senate
certainly hasn't helped. I don't believe that the President has done
a great job but to blame him for every problem we have in the country is rather
ridiculous. Intelligent people look at the past and learn from it,
and they also look at the past to measure progress. Only fools measure the
world by today without looking at yesterday or considering tomorrow. The
republican blame game does nothing to move us forward, and quite honestly does
nothing to move their cause forward. Most reasonable Americans are tired of the
blame game the republicans can't give up.
VST do you really think the President, any President is solely responsible for
all those numbers you just rattled off during his time in office? Congress has
no role in what happened? Ya I know congress was controlled by the democrats the
first two years but the house has been controlled by the obstructionists the
last two years. Do you really think that the policies of the previous 8 years
including two unfunded wars, and a gigantic unfunded medicare prescription drug
plan and the first round of bailouts has nothing to do with the current state of
the economy and the numbers you quoted.This is why the republicans
keep losing elections, they only take credit for the good things that happen and
they don't share in the responsibility for the bad. I heard Newt Gingrich
all through the primaries take credit for the economy during the Clinton years.
Well if the House majority leader deserves credit for a good economy in the
90's shouldn't the House majority leader share in the blame in 2012?
If the republicans had a message that America (which is center
right) believed they wouldn't be losing this election.
As a middle class American myself, I could never, ever bring myself to vote for
Romney. You couldn't pay me enough (seriously).He supports
bigotry.He supports downsizing the middle class and offshoring American
jobs.He supports wealth redistribution - upwards!He supports the
religious take-over of the US Government (just look at his pandering to the
faaaaaar right religious nuts).Romney is a disaster and would work
to end Democracy in the US and turn our government over to the Corporations.
Since I don't see the usual crowd criticizing this poll, I guess they
sampled the right people this time, and this is an accurate poll.
@ FT. I listened to the tape several times and Romney said the 47% see
themselves as victims. Honestly, that’s all I ever hear from the
Democrats is how many victims there are in America. No victims; no need for
Obamacare, no need for income redistribution, no need for food stamps, no need
for welfare! Of course these people see themselves as victims! They believe they
are victims of the “rich”, victims of Walls Street, victims of
racism and on and on it goes! I get tired of listening to people whine about
their victimhood and demand other people to take care of them! Its sickening to
see what so many Americans have become! Any honest person can see that we are
becoming a nation of volunteer victims! And when anyone (Romney) has the courage
to point it out, he is blasted by these self imposed “victims”.
Montanaman-Why was Romney's video a blunder? While 47% don't
pay federal income taxes they are not all "victims" as he called them.
The majority of them are veterans, active military and retired. Also, many of
them are "working" poor. This certainly does not make them
"victims" or Obama supporters. That tape reinforced the image many
have of Romney, be it true or not. Also, remember he only served in public
office once and left after one term with a 35% approval rating. The only high
mark he got was for Romney Care and he washed his hands of that to appease the
This campaign add brought to you by the Deseret News, and Mitt Romney approved
it.David, you claim every economic indicator is worse now when
compared to 2008. Please do me a favor, provide one.
@ I bleed blue. I am just curious as to why Romney’s 47% comment was a
blunder? Is it true or not that 47% of Americans pays no federal income taxes?
If not, what is the percentage and if it is true why is telling the truth a
blunder? Have we sunk so low in this country that we can’t be honest?
Please help me understand this “issue”.
After his 'rant' in the kitchen where he essentially sold out on 47%
of the population, he gave the election away. The chance of Mitt overcoming
this latest blunder is slim and none. I think deep down he never really wanted
to win. He just wanted to get to this point so he could say he did something
his father wasn't able to do. The tea party and all the donations from the
super rich also contributed to this disaster. It's the same group that
gave use Palin.
Every economic indicator reveals a bad economy which has gotten worse sine
'08. Those who were critical of Bush for presiding over a down economy
should now step up, be consistent, & vote again for change. Only this time
the change will mean voting Obama OUT. Obama was an unknown with very little
record in the last election. But now we know. He has a record & it is
abysmal...oh yeah, he ordered bin Laden killed. Vote Romney. He
understands economics, he understands what it takes to make small & large
businesses successful. He knows how to grow an economy. He is charitable. He
will be a tremendous president who can return America to greatness where it can
lead the world in freedom. A rising tide lifts all ships.
This should create quite a buzz and provide needed momentum to Mitt's
campaign. At the very least, Romney can raise another million in Utah off this
The headline doesn't seem to reflect the actual article. How is a 14 point
lead "edging out" Obama?
That's because those that are still left in the Middle-class are doing just
fine.It's the millions of Americans that USED to be in the
Middle-class that I worry about.Also makes me wonder if they are
using the $50K+ Middle-Income to define Middle-class, or Mitt
Romney's $250K+ as Middle-Class.