Vets already get preference in government jobs hiring. Especially federal
jobs.Howell is a typicall Democrat who believes that the government
is the cure all. This bill wouldn't have created one job in the private
sector. Only government jobs. Good for Hatch for voting against it. Maybe
Howell should have hired more vets at IBM, eh?
ChairmanMauzer Military spending is only ONE portion of the budget.And you're trying to spin it so that bush's $4 trillion
increase in 8 years is worse than BO's $6 trillion growth in 3.5 years?
Really???Oh, and you knew bush's deficits were much HIGHER when
the dems had control of congress than when the repubs did, didn't you?.
Oh, and you also know at NO time did the repubs have control of congress when
the debt was growing under Bush Sr. or Reagan. Another simple omission on your
part? The constitution requires pending bills originate in the house; but since
when have liberals cared about the constitution?Joe Blow,Nice
twist! Good job obfuscating! Howell said they were getting new revenue, not
Hatch has a choice....Support the citizens who give the mostorSupport the vast Military Industrial ComplexHatch [and the
rest of the war-mongering GOP] chose to follow his Corporate Masters.
Re: one old man Ogden, UT"Hatch has been un-American for a long, long
time."Your opinion is both incorrect and moot. I have more
chance of winning the lottery than Howell has of defeating Hatch, and I
don't even play the lottery.
Howell shows his true colors. Spend, spend, spend. We don't need the govt
spending more money to provide us jobs. We need the policies of Mitt Romney to
allow the private sector to grow jobs with lower taxes and reduced regulation.
We have had enough of big brother. The govt needs to get out of the way!
Did anyone see that the monies the Democrats were proposing to pay for this bill
were from future recouped taxes from those who haven't paid their taxes?
Now, just how long do you think it will take to get 1 billion dollars to pay for
this every year? Might get 20 million a year -- maybe. There was no logical way
proposed to pay for it. Also, it was brought up the week before all Congress
leaves DC? Do you think this was campaign oriented? Come on you guys -- read
the background of everything and don't just start spouting off that Senator
Hatch didn't support it. There were several reasons!!
"I'm curious what new revenue Howell is magically pulling out of thin
air to pay for this mis-labeled bill. "If we had people worrying
about how we were going to pay for the war 10 years ago, we may not have all of
these out-of-work vets in the first place.Going to war? Borrow from
China. Help those who fought in the war? Sorry, no money.Priceless
Incredible! No, not really. Rather, it's typical of O.H.Time to turn him out to pasture.
ChairmanMauzer: We can't simply look at who was President when attempting
to determine who is responsible for our nation's debt. You have to consider
which party controlled the House and Senate during a given period of time when
the budget was set and spending occurred. Parse debt contribution by who held
the purse strings within Congress, and then we start to see who is responsible.
Absolutely amazing. It is so disheartening to read some of the comments posted
here, and in other online news forums. As I read this article by Dennis Romboy I
see two different bills, both that supposedly attempt to address job
opportunities for Vets. It is so disengenuous for Howell to completely ignore
the other proposal and to focus on the fact that Hatch didn't vote for a
Democratic version, implying that Hatch is against job opportunities for Vets. I
hate this kind of politics. Why can't there be honest and open debate?
Meanwhile, that which will truly get America back on its feet is held hostage
because both parties refuse to compromise, let alone achnowledge that anything
from the other party has merit. Pathetic.
Democrats seldom ever see a spending bill they cannot enthusiastically
support.Even if they are inefficient, contain wasteful pork
projects, and are a bad solution to a problem, or are a solution to a
non-existent problem. Howell is obviously a Democrat with that outlook.Hatch should have retired, but he did the right thing on the vet jobs
bill, and I am a vet!
hatch vote AGAINST veterans jobs bill is un American.True...But very republican.
Our tax receipts barely cover entitlement spending. Everything else--defense,
education, energy, agriculture, everything--is paid for with borrowed money. And
yet we keep on spending.Because it's un-American to NOT spend
our country off the edge of a fiscal cliff from which there's no hope of
" That's the problem with dems, when it comes to spending, they're
like Chris Berman in the Appleby's ad - they just cannot help
thmselves."Right, and republicans didn't give the military
MORE money than they asked for this year. (They did) Give me a
break. You should see the breakdown of federal debt per president. The rate of
debt growth is always highest under Republicans (Reagan - 189%, Bush 1 56%, Bush
I don't particularly like many of the policies of Orrin Hatch, but I am so
tired of the name-calling. It is manipulative. Is it too much to expect our
leaders to interact like adults?Can you imagine if you treated your
colleagues at work the way these folks treat each other?
A Hatch spokeswoman called it "budget-busting" legislation that would
have increased spending. ' "Instead of backing a bill that
would have spent a billion dollars our nation doesn’t have, Hatch backs
common-sense legislation to bring real jobs and greater retirement security to
our veterans put forward by Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C.," said Heather
Barney.'Burr introduced alternative legislation that includes
several veterans job-training initiatives but removes the provision establishing
the job corps.'Hatch also introduced an amendment that would
have increased the cutoff age from 37 to 47 for veterans to join federal law
enforcement.'Government spending will not and cannot help our
sagging economy. I am suspicious of the political rumors generated by both
parties, but I find it disgusting when the facts are laid out clearly on both
sides and people fail to acknowledge them.I do not blame President
Obama, either, for not keeping his word regarding bringing the troops home. For
all his criticism of President Bush, I knew that once in the Oval Office he
would be privy to some information the rest of us don't have.
I'm curious what new revenue Howell is magically pulling out of thin air to
pay for this mis-labeled bill. ANY new revenue should be used to
reduce the deficit. That's the problem with dems, when it comes to
spending, they're like Chris Berman in the Appleby's ad - they just
cannot help thmselves.Ernest,If you are honest, you would
admit the reason jobs have not grown is the business community has ZERO
confidence in BO; that and Obamacare increases the cost of hiring.
Hatch has long been an embarrassment to Utah & the nation. He cares so
little for the common person and this is just another example. Playing politics
when the well being and lives of those who proudly serve our nation can be
addressed is just inexcusable.
Hatch needs to go away from politics...he is trouble and that we don't
need. The fault of lack of jobs is not the fault of Republicans....Democrats
earned that by themselves as well as many other difficulties are country is
facing and that includes withholding from our troops.
Although I'm not a fan of Hatch, the best way to increase jobs for everyone
is to dump Obama. If Obama was the manager of the local laundromat, he would
have them bankrupt and closed for business within 4 years. He is likely to do
the same with the United States if he is given another 4 years.
1st the Job Corps we have now is a huge boondoggle, wasting lots of tax dollars
with no improvement in unemployment in our youth. We don’t now need a Job
Corps just for Vets, which will equal more wasteful government spending and few
if any jobs for Vets. If we care about Vets and others getting jobs we need to:
lower taxes, cut government regulations, reduce federal spending so the economy
takes off. This will reduce un-employment across the board. A rising tide lifts
all boats. If our Vets need something more then a simple tax credit to employers
that hire and keep Vets employed for at least one year or some such time will
move them to the front of the line. More government spending never creates real
or sustained jobs; instead it just becomes a millstone around the neck of our
economy, and wastes or taxes.
At least four republican law makers helped to write this bill then when Obama
supported it, they opposed it.If you are honest, you will admit the reason
jobs haven't grown is due to republican obstruction.
Hatch has been un-American for a long, long time. He simply does not have the
best interests of common American people at heart. Unless they are corporation
"people" that is.