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Published: Sunday, Sept. 23 2012 6:56 p.m. MDT

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satch
Highland, UT

I don't recall fans asking for the backup when Jim McMahon was in, nor Steve Young, Robbie Bosco, Ty Detmer, nor Max Hall or John Beck.

If we had a backup offensive coordinator it would be time for that too.

OHBU
Columbus, OH

I don't know many Cougar fans that have ever clamored for Nelson. He's a gunslinger. He thinks he's Favre, but lacks the equivalent talent. Bronco blew it with Heaps...no Freshman thrives when there is the threat of a hook at every bad pass. Had we developed him, who knows. Now we've got a young qb with a ton of potential, and who seems to be more liked by his teammates than Heaps. This year is already a bit of a bust, and next year's schedule looks like a gauntlet. Should we stick with the beat-up, sub-par senior, or maybe develop the young qb so that maybe next year we have a shot at doing something good? Hill is big, tough, and has quick feet. His passing accuracy already at least matches Nelson's, though he has a way to go there. Stick with Hill, pick up a good qb coach in the offseason, and hopefully we can reap the rewards like we did with both Beck and Hall who were allowed to learn in their Freshman years, rather than fear getting pulled.

HCB63
Orem, UT

Thank you for that spot on opinion Tokyo_Expat.
Awesome top hear that analysis from someone besides myself!

Andrew_Streeter
High Point, NC

At the end of the day, all of Nelson's wins as "the guy" are fool's gold.

In his career as a starter (where he has played the entire game), Nelson has 6 wins - 2 WAC teams, 2 Big Sky teams, and 2 PAC-12 cellar-dwellers.

In his games where he has played quality opponents (TCU in 2011, Utah and Boise St. this year) he has this collective stat line:
36/83 (43%) 440 yds (146 yds/game) 3 TDs (1 per game), 6 INTs (2 per game), 3 lost fumbles (1 per game).

He was personally responsible for NINE turnovers in just those 3 losses. Important to note that 2 of these games were lost by less than a field goal, and TCU lost by 10.

Bottom line: The dude is RECKLESS, inconsistent, inaccurate, predictable and sloppy. I don't care how "gritty" or "tough" he is - he loses important games all on his own. Moxie and character have never won a football game on their own.

If BYU wins 6 games or ends up 10-2, they already know that they're headed to the Poinsettia Bowl. This being the case, WHY NOT look to he future and just play Taysom? I honestly feel like he gives you the best chance to win.

Andrew_Streeter
High Point, NC

At the end of the day, all of Nelson's wins as "the guy" are fool's gold.

In his career as a starter (where he has played the entire game), Nelson has 6 wins - 2 WAC teams, 2 Big Sky teams, and 2 PAC-12 cellar-dwellers.

In his games where he has played quality opponents (TCU in 2011, Utah and Boise St. this year) he has this collective stat line:
36/83 (43%) 440 yds (146 yds/game) 3 TDs (1 per game), 6 INTs (2 per game), 3 lost fumbles (1 per game).

He was personally responsible for NINE turnovers in just those 3 losses.

The dude is RECKLESS, inconsistent, inaccurate, predictable and sloppy. I don't care how "gritty" or "tough" he is - he loses important games all on his own. Moxie and character have never won a football game on their own.

Regardless of if BYU wins 6 games or ends up 10-2, they already know that they're headed to the Poinsettia Bowl. This being the case, WHY NOT look to he future and just play Taysom? I honestly feel like he gives you the best chance to win.

HCB63
Orem, UT

Obviously Sorenson has been riding the Riley Nelson Love Train because, after two abyssmal performances in two consecutive games, Sorenson has become an apologist for "Legend in the Making", my personal heeeerroh, Riley Nelson, "the Savior of BYU Football" as several BYU fan signs have proclaimed.
The guy belongs in D-III ball where he would probably be a decent QB. In D-I, he beats up on the terrible opponents--taking all the glory, but plays horrifically against good or even average teams, then makes excuses for his bad play.
The Backup QB may often seem to be a better choice, but in BYU's case, it really IS the better choice. At the very least, Lark or Munns or even Hill certainly couldn't do any worse than 32 yards of Total offense and four turnovers, as was Nelson's effort against Boise State.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

@ Tokyo

Jake Heaps hasn't been vindicated. He had hundreds of false start and delay-of-game penalties because he couldn't get the play started in a decent fashion. He had evey chance to beat Texas and didn't do it. He literally gift-wrapped tha win and handed it to Utah on a silver platter. Jake was too full of himself to have his teammates want to follow his leadership. One can count on both hands and feet at least three times the number of potential big plays where he over-threw the receiver that was wide open down field. I wish him well at Kansas but I'm glad he's no longer our guy, as he was too long in that scenario while we were losing games. After he was benched we suddenly started winning. Don't revise history to fit your own bias.

Go Big Blue!!!
Bountiful, UT

Aggies are not asking for the backup qb. See you next week Cougars.

Go Big Blue!!!

WON84
PLANO, TX

There should be a QB controversy in Provo...between Hill and Lark.

Benderman1
Layton, UT

I agree with this article! Last year, everyone thought the grass would be greener with Nelson. Boy were they wrong! Why didn't this author write this exact same article last year when BYU was in the same situation? The author fails to touch on one major point. BYU is not going anywhere this year. They will likely play in a bowl whether Nelson plays or Hill plays. That's why everyone wants to see Hill now. If BYU ends up in the same place regardless of who plays, why not start developing Hill now so BYU has an experienced QB come next year? By continuing to play Nelson, all they are doing is hindering the progress of the entire team. BYU coaches do not understand the concept of preparation. They don't prepare the right way for big games and they don't know how to prepare for upcoming seasons.

fender
Washington, UT

@CougFaninTX

Nelson our best option? Nice sound bite, but not defensible. Ideal QB has got arm strength, accuracy, body size, pocket presence, field vision, football smarts, judgment, and toughness. Manning and Brady are prototypes.

Nelson is tough, has football smarts, and he's mobile. His lack of height, however, costs him both arm strength and field vision. His body weight makes him vulnerable to injury. He's not consistently accurate and the inability to throw downfield hurts BYU's run game big time. He's also overly aggressive and makes poor decisions at times. He would be a terrific safety, but he'll never be a top flight QB. Guarantee he won't be drafted.

Either Lark or Hill is a better option.

LV Mike
Las Vegas, NV

This is a ridiculous article. Every fan watching the BYU/BSU game was well aware that ANY QB other than Nelson would have been better. Even if the coaches had waited until after BYU went three and out in its first post halftime possession to take Nelson out it would have been too late. The BYU coaching staff had so little confidence in Nelson's abilities that it simply let the clock run out at the end of the first half instead of actually trying to move the ball into some kind of scoring position. It was a complete embarrassment. Now the coaches want to make excuses for Nelson, because he was playing hurt? That is an indictment on the coaches. They have cost the team two straight losses. Can't believe Bronco went for two vs. BSU with a freshman QB, and one of the worst offenses in recent BYU history. I think he's gone mad - especially when Bronco states emphatically that he'd make the same decision again and again. Amazing.

The coaching staff that fosters QB controversies of late must be having a ball with dumb articles like this.

PGVikingDad
Pleasant Grove, UT

Minus-four quarterback rating. Minus. Four. OF COURSE Taysom is better than that.

Rational
Salt Lake City, UT

Paul Shoemaker's argument is better research and more objective, Mike, and he's a part-time writer. Maybe the backup would be better at the D-News, too.

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