There you are Utah! I was wondering where you went!
Just like last year, Utah got up big for BYU but then had a huge emotional
letdown the following week. In spite of all their PAC-12 bravado it is obvious
that Utah coaches, players and fans still take the rivalry with BYU as seriously
“We got whipped tonight, soundly. They're a better football team than
we are.”Utah coach Kyle Whittingham ....At least Whit
can face the truth, something Bronco seems incapable of ...
So glad Chris B guaranteed another Utah win. I have it marked down and
everything.Go Pac 12.
Okay here is the bye week. Use it like fall camp, work hard and get the
offensive production way up. You need to score points to win in the PAC 12 this
year. Open up the playbook please. You can't expect you r
defense to win grind it out games in the PAC 12. This isn't the MWC. Teams
are going to score points. You have to as well.
What a horrendous and embarrassing display. I know Ute fans aren't going to
want to hear this, but this is why it was hard to give them credit for their big
seasons in the MWC. These teams in the Pac-12 are just better. They're
bigger, they're faster, they're stronger and Utah simply doesn't
have the types of athletes it needs to compete.
Holy Cow!!! We sucked last night...Could be a lo g, long (did I
mention long)...and painful year in the PAC 10...Ugly
This team feels a little like the 70's and 80's teams. Unfortunately
that's not such a good thing in the win column. It looks like we can join
the ranks of the throngs of unhappy souls in Happy Valley and "look forward
to next year".
Crickets.....Crickets......Chris B it's time to wake up now,
your dream has turned into a nightmare.
Hey, Ms. B., what about those predictions??Utah will struggle this
season to have a winning record. That said, they are in a better place with the
PAC 12 and will eventually rise closer to the level of the competition. Just
like ASU has...
At least they didn't storm the field and belittle and curse the Utah coach
and the players. Arizona State: Class 1 team in sportsmanship and athletic
ability. Losing isn't never fun in any circumstance. Feel the pain!
Now we can really see how bad BYU is this year. Ouch!
There is really only one thing to say, although I mat say some more stuff
Well said, Kyle.
Look on the bright side Ute Nation, you will probably still finish in the top
ten....of your conference.
Of course they will lose, whe the other team does not score points for you.
Hopefully this wakes Utah up. A lot of hype this year about going to the Rose
Bowl. It will not happen in our lifetime. Utah is not on the same level as
USC, Standord, Oregon, and as we saw last night, Arizona State. Sure, the Utes
may upset one of them here or there, but they will never beat them all in the
same year. Utah's best bet for BCS was staying in a mid tier conference.
To put it in perspective, they are like Air Force or San Diego State in the Mt
West. Even more so like Arizona State. ASU used to win all of the WAC
championships until, like Utah, they went to the Pac 8 in the 70s. They have
always been a non threatening member of the conference, going to the Rose Bowl
once in 95. One more time than Utah will go.No matter how arrogant
they become (coaches, players, and fans), Utah will never be on the same level
as USC, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, and WashingtonBYU fans, you will
never achieve that quest for perfection. Go FCS, there may be some good fortune
for you there.
How's that Pac-12 dominance working out for ya Ute fans?Anybody
checked on Chris B? Is he/she alright? LOL
At lease U State is dominating; at least someone is representing our great state
well. Great team to watch.Go Aggies!
The Utes have stepped back a little this year, but will still be very
competitive in the PAC-12 if they can improve their offensive line and defensive
secondary play a little. That said, maybe the team should consider scheduling
the Y more often as it least it is a guaranteed W, like other FCS teams.
DuckhunterHighland, UTThere is really only one thing to say,
although I mat say some more stuff anyway.LOL!_________________That ASU is better than BYU?OUCH!!!
Hey Vai:How about an article titled "Utah's performance not
what PAC-12 signed up for." ?
I'm a BYU fan through and through. That being said, every BYU fan on this
board crowing and reveling in the Utah loss are just a bunch of idiots. Honest
to goodness, how is it that any BYU fan thinks that a Utah loss is good for us?
It doesn't make our team any better, doesn't help with the Utah loss,
or the Boise St. debacle. Doesn't make Nelson make better decisions. Its
ridiculous. It'd be nice to be able to say that as a group BYU fans were
smarter, or more forward thinking then their brethren who cheered for the U and
wanted us to lose every game in humiliating fashion. No such luck. I hope Utah
can get it together, the last thing I want on our record is a 3 point loss to a
really bad team in the Pac-12. Hopefully Coach Whit figures this team out, and
gets it turned around. (Hopefully Bronco does the same).
MWC with Boise, TCU, Utah, BYU, Utah State would be awesome. Can we rethink this
conference alignment again?
So much for that tough Utah defense. And for all you BYU honks, just remember
Scoreboard!!!! No matter what happens this year Utah 1 BYU 0.
I really thought Utah was going to win this one. Like, really.
Mark it Down! We won't see a post from Chris for awhile. He is probably
trying to get on Stubhub right now to sell those Rose Bowl Tickets. Oh Chris,
they also have a special on Amazon for PAC12 doormats.
PAC 12 records Utes 0-1, BYU 1-0 this season
USU beat Utah by one point, Utah beat BYU by three points, BYU and USU will
probably have a similar result. I don't see any domination in the state
this year. I predict a BYU win over USU which will mean none of the three can
claim a "state title".
"Anybody checked on Chris B? Is he/she alright?"jackr-us:I think he replaced Ducky at the sulking shack in Tulsa.
barkfestWhat a horrendous and embarrassing display. I know Ute fans
aren't going to want to hear this, but this is why it was hard to give them
credit for their big seasons in the MWC. These teams in the Pac-12 are just
better. They're bigger, they're faster, they're stronger and Utah
simply doesn't have the types of athletes it needs to compete.Where does that put byu, enjoy mighty Hawaii. You guys do have the types of
athletes to compete with the Rainbow Warrios. BYU CANNOT BEAT UTAH, have a WAC
of a time here on out.
I'm a BYU grad. I did grad work at the U. I love college football. But
I've given up on the Utes and Cougs... all hot air and no substance.
Notre Dame games are much more fun to watch and you don't even have to pay
When the other team doesn't give away points (like BYU did), the Utes
can't score their own.
You know I got on 2 articles this morning wanting to see 65 plus comments from
Utah fans and BYU fans mixed in with a few others...and what did I see 22 on one
and 33 on another...conclusion once again Ute fan you are more concerned about
BYU and what the cougars do than your own pathetic team. And again showing ute
fan will always be little brother and can't and won't let go of BYU.
WACPaddingOurSchedule,Utah wasn't even competitive in the WAC.
In the PAC they're a farce.
@RepresentBlue,The PAC10 got just what they wanted in Utah...a 12th
team so that the conference will qualify for a $$ generating conf championship
and a doormat team that won't ever qualify to play there. Colorado and Utah
were perfect candidates and the PAC couldn't be happier.
I am true blue, and I actually cheer for the Utes againsts everyone except BYU
and USU. With that being said, we both have to admit that neither of our teams
look very good this year. ASU is in the upper half of the PAC this
year, but they will not be in the Championship game. Boise State is a shadow of
its prior self, and neither of us could get past these winnable games.Realistically, 7-5 looks very likely for BYU. I know it won't make
anyone in red happy, but 4-8 seems very likely for the Utes (if U don't
choke against the Buffs again); 5-7 looks a best case scenario. Just be glad U
don't play Oregon or Stanford. My money's on Oregon to make the NC
Well credit Utah for stepping up and playing with the big boys. I think any
realistic fan would have said it would take at least five years to win a PAC-12
championship--they almost played in the championship game the first year--even
though Oregon would have routed them.TCU could have stayed in the
MWC and probably been a BCS buster this year, but they want to step up their
program and decided to play in the Big 12--TCU will probably have losses against
K-State, OU, West Virginia. Who knows, they might surprise them. BYU sure back
peddled out of the Big 12 and are still a little nervous at joining the Big
East.I think BYU bailed out of the Mountain West because they were
afraid they couldn't compete there. They already lost to Boise State, and
I think Nevada and Fresno State are probably better teams this year. USU always
finds ways to lose in Provo, but some of the green-light games have gone to
yellow: Utah State and San Jose State.Why did BYU cancel their road
game at LA Tech? Might have been a little nervous to play them--LOL!
Painful.....I was prepared to see my Utes lose more frequently than
I would like them to in their new conference, but I wasn't prepared to see
HOW they lose these games.ASU was far and away the better team last
night. Unless Utah makes more progress than usual as the season progresses,
they may not go bowling this year.
Oh and Chris and other ute fans...Next week USC 56 Utah 3 mark it
Oh by the way, BYU just scheduled a home and home with Middle Tennessee State.
Remember I told you that no big school will do a home and home with BYU (just a
one game at their place or a two-for-one at best) and that BYU will have to go
to the MAC, Sun Belt, or C-USA to fill up games? The prophecy is coming true! I
can't post a link but it is in their paper, the Tennessean and on
FBSschedules website.Look for BYU to either join the Big East or go
back on bended knee to Craig Thompson in a few years.GO BLUE
RAIDERS! (that is the mascot of Middle Tennessee State) Cue the
Lavern and Shirley Music, "We'll do it our way, yes our way, make all
our dreams come true for me and you." BYU independence--go get'em!
Yep, the Utes are in the fetal position again. After convincing
themselves that they had a "stellar" defense and solid running game they
are now reeling from the undoing of their team and their season.I
know its a hard pill to swallow but several of us told you so.We
knew our Riley was not the best QB around but we accepted him with the hope that
things would work out. It didn't and it was no surprise. BYU fans have been
typically patient with independence, the schedule and the challenges of putting
together the combination of talent and coaches.On the other hand the
Utes believe they are Utah's gift to football. How funny is that.When they fall, they fall hard. I think this season will be worse
than last year for the Utes. All of the other teams are starting to play real
football.Long road of humiliation ahead for the Utes me thinks. A
definite possibility of no bowling.
Man, we've proven we would have killed Asu. byu = so much better
Ouch what a beat-down.We're 3-0 vs BYU this year, can we just
play BYU for the 8 remaining games? Even with how bad we are we can still take
them 8 of 11.
@sammygSorry our defense is so bad that we didn't finish you
off last week when we were up 24-7 going into the 4th. If had done that Hill
might of started against Boise and we could have saved you guys from
embarrassing yourself on a 2 point try against a team that has 2 FGs in their
only two "real" games.
Utah isn't a team anybody in their right mind would bet against.
Unfortunately its not a good idea to bet for them either. They are like the
proverbial Box of Chocolates. You never know what you're going to get.
UteologyNo worries about BYU, they will be fine.I'll take those close games for what they were... miserable, ugly games
that just barely went the other way for whatever reason. Hopefully the players
and coaches can learn from them.On the other hand what will the Utes
learn from losing to ASU?Your Utes need some attention, give them
some love and hope, will ya'?
So, just what did John White say?It's all your fault Utah
Wow, lots of haters on the board today. Interesting that my Utes loss gives
some so much joy. Whatever. Ugly showing all the way around by the Utes - nice
time for a bye! And then USC.
sammyg,You are right in poking fun at Utah's "stellar
defense and solid running game." You have no idea how much it pains me to
admit that...But I about did a spit-take when reading your
paragraph: "We knew our Riley was not the best QB around but we accepted him
with the hope that things would work out. It didn't and it was no surprise.
BYU fans have been typically patient with independence, the schedule and the
challenges of putting together the combination of talent and coaches."Do you even read what your fellow BYU fans write in their comments?
Just browse the comments from last week - after BYU's losses to Utah and
Boise State. If you don't have time (too busy trashing the Utes perhaps),
trust me, the overriding tone of the comments isn't "patience."I'm curious - are the Cougars the state of Utah's "gift to
football?"But back to the Utes - I expected to lose more in
conference games in the Pac 12. And finishing in the top third will be a real
challenge. But I didn't expect to get blown out on a regular basis.
@sammyg"No worries about BYU, they will be fine."HAHA no they wont. the funny thing is you y fans getting on here especially
after that 6 point outing you had against a TERRIBLE boise state team! HAHA! you
should be the LAST fans to be on here sayin a word about utah especially after
they owned your pathetic team, then that embarrassing game against boise state
(on national television). hahaha EMBARRASSING after all that "bcs
buster" talk.now for the utes... WOW you played with absolutely
ZERO heart. you embarrassed yourselves in front of the pac 12. we all know
you're a much better team than that. get it together and actually get up
for the games.
y fans shouldn't be allowed to even be on a utah article after how pathetic
and embarrassing your team is this year. 6 pts against a bad, bad, bad boise
state team. it would have been hilarious to watch you play arizona state. the
score woulda been like 84-0 since we all know you cant score on good defenses.
RepresentBlue"Hey Vai:How about an article titled
"Utah's performance not what PAC-12 signed up for."?Funny, because I've been hearing on the radio a lot since the Boise game,
that ESPN may not renew their contract with BYU. And they may even give the Y a
check to cancel early. But hey, at least you guys still have that HD truck.
I couldn't watch the game because I was in a place that only had direct tv.
SAw the updates as far as halftime. I admire how the utes get up for the rivalry
game, but you make all of us in the state look bad when you can't follow
through with your pac arrogance in conference play. BYU on the other hand tends
to downplay the rivalry game, hence the record over the past ten years, but
really step it up for bowl games and one or two big game a year.(OK in 09,
Oregon OSU bowls, etc.)Not sure what the future brings for the utes, but
hopefully no one will get hurt.
bballjunkiee don't play USC next week-bu in't it coolwe
get toplay them at our place and that us fan get to see that game it on't
be 56-3 anybody that has a clue about college football will know that. But have
fun with mighty Hawaii they will stat yu n that 10 win season and 25th in the AP
poll. Man I wish Utah had the cougars scehdule it would be so much more fun
seeing all those NFL caliber players-RIGHT.sammyIf we
are in the fetal position what does that put your team in it's alot easier
for you and that team you have to be confident with Hawaii coming in but ia
confident really the right word to use probably more relieved. Now you can gt
those 60 thousand plus fans and whoop it up mighty Hawaii is coming to town this
will start you off on that road to a 10 win season and an AP ranking of #25
that's sme bg time football. Man I wish I was you.
Embarrassing loss UTES.......I guess USU really is the best Team in the
State........and no one is even close!
@ Wildcat"it would take at least five years to win a PAC-12
championship--they almost played in the championship game the first
year--"How's that crimson kool aid? Did you not realize
Utah had the way to that game "geased" because USC was on probation and
ineligible; all the Utes had to do was beat Colorado in the final PAC 12 game in
SLC? Remember they had less than 50 yards offense (and the O coordinator was
the hearlded Chow) in the first half and LOST to the worst road team in
America----who hadn't won a road game in 4 years?Remember the
UNLV 27, Utah 0 score a few years back when Whittingham said he "didn't
know why they lost?"It's hilairious how Ute partisans have
everything bad to saw about BYU and then when Utah loses in style and BYU fans
return the favor suddenly the Y fans are so insensitive. That's
duplicious; that's Utah fans; that's the future of the PAC 12
experience. Get used to it.Quit complaining about BYU; you've
dumped us; go away quietly!! Enjoy your new rival---Colorado, in Boulder this
MLH, could you please proof read your posts. They're an embarrassment to
English teachers everywhere. Everybody else, please calm down. BYU
and Utah football teams are both mediocre this year. Neither has an offense, and
while Utah's defense got exposed last night, BYU's defense has been
tested by WSU in their first game under a new coach, Weber State, an anemic Utah
offense and a Boise State team comprised of nearly all new players - in other
words, we don't know how good they are. So much of this
squabbling between partisans reminds me of 5th grade playground rhetoric - all
posturing by people who are incapable of backing it up. If the Cougars do well,
it makes me happy but it does not make me a better person. I even hope the Utes
do well, but I didn't seek a high ledge to jump from last night. I slept
very well both Thursday night and Saturday night. Funny thing, I wasn't
playing so I figure I don't deserve bragging rights either way and I am not
going to kill my sell either way, either. It's a game. Negativity is such an ugly thing.
@sammygOf course BYU will be just fine. They only have 3 more
"real" games remaining then onto 5 WAC teams that they've been
dominating for 40 years now.You are already off to an 0-2 start,
like last year when you only played 4 real teams you lost to 3. As of today,
over the last three years BYU is 4-10 vs teams over .500. Not a good sign,
unless that is you "gave" those 10 games away on purpose.
MLHStill bitter? Yeah if I was Ute fan I would be too after last
night. Being pumped up about Blechen coming back, White playing, the planets
aligning, beating BYU handily, etc... it was a sure win.Until the
harsh reality that your team is just really average against an unranked
opponent, lucky to have barely beaten BYU, lost to a good USU team. Well, you get the drift don't you.
@HawkyoBYU on the other hand tends to downplay the rivalry game,
hence the record over the past ten years, but really step it up for bowl games
and one or two big game a year.---------You need to
reexamine your bowl record and correct your post. Speaking of BYU downplaying
the rivalry game, was Max Hall okay after the game last week?
utah 95Honest comments. What BYU fans say about Riley
and Bronco won't change anything. If they exhibit frustration that's
understandable. I'm frustrated but I move on. I have to. I just hope the
team and coaches learn from the mistakes.The bottom line is that
there is no option except to be patient.
toosmartforyou said:"@ Wildcat.....How's that
crimson kool aid? Did you not realize Utah had the way to that game
"geased" because USC was on probation and ineligible; all the Utes had
to do was beat Colorado in the final PAC 12 game in SLC? Remember they had less
than 50 yards offense (and the O coordinator was the hearlded Chow) in the first
half and LOST to the worst road team in America----who hadn't won a road
game in 4 years?Quit complaining about BYU; you've dumped us;
go away quietly!! Enjoy your new rival---Colorado, in Boulder this year."Desperate times in Provo! LOL!It might be best for you to chose
another avatar, graspingatstraws seems more fitting.BTW, you did get
the news that BYU lost to UTAH again right?
That was ugly for sure. Well if we listened to all the Yner fans we should just
not play anymore games and just start practicing for next year. We have
dropped two games the season is young. This team has talent we just got punched
in the chin, now its time to buckle down and get to business. I have notice
that we always played with a chip on out shoulder as the underdog team that
overachieved, since the pac-12 we have played as the overconfident team that
grossly underachieved. Maybe well wake up and keep some playmakers on offense.
Maybe QBs are important after all. Wynn great kid got hurt was never the same
and we should have moved on. We are paying a dear price for that last year and
this year. Wilson and Hansen are going to be future studs but the key word is
future. We got exposed as a team that relies on our D way to much and when they
get schemed and punched in the mouth first drive they didn't buckle down
they broke. No matter, get things fixed, open the playbook and get some life in
this team. GO Utes
upinthenightDid you get the news - actually, it's not really
news at all, since everyone except the red koolaid drinkers expected it all
along - that the Utes are PAC cellar dwellers?With losses to USC,
UCLA and Oregon State in their next three games, the Utes will have to win 4 of
their last 5 games just to be bowl eligible; and the Utes lost to 3 of those
teams last season.Just as during their WAC days, BYU has once again
become Utah's bowl game, and the Utes are grasping at straws trying to
pretend how being a bottom dweller is so great.-------WACpaddledThe Ute are 0-1 in the WAC - time to requisition a new
Uh oh, another BYU fan is melting down.Snack PAC needs help.I
would worry more about your upcoming schedule than Utah's. They are not
determining your bowl hopes, you are. Especially now that the BCS busting mantra
is officially over. LOL!LOL!
flawed logic. The yners that are on here gleefully bashing the utes are
also then bashing their own team. This "terrible pac cellar dwellar"
that has owned the yners for a decade now. It must really hurt losing so many
times to such a "bad" team. Logic would suggest that hurt as much as it
might you kind of hope that the teams that beat you, beat other decent teams
proping up your embarrasing loss as not so bad. A lot of us U fans swallowed
our pride and hoped that utah state would beat out their tougher teams however
with the U dominating the Y as of late it seems Hate dimms all logic. Down
24 - 7 in the 4th the best the Yners could do against such a terrible team is
fall short and chalk up another loss to the U.
upinthenightNice dodge, but the only desperate meltdown I see is
coming from the kids on the hill is pretending that being a PAC bottom dweller,
again, somehow makes U big stuff.btw, last two games
versus ASUBYU 13-10 in TempeBYU 26-6 in ProvoUtah 14-35
in SLCUtah 7-37 in TempeThe Utes haven't beaten the Sun
Devils since 1976. Did you really think that sewing a PAC 12 emblem on your
jersey was all it was going to take to become "one of the big boys"?
dnsmith6 of the last 8 BYU-Utah games have been decided by a
touchdown or less in the final minutes of the game or in OT. That's hardly
"owning" anything.On the other hand, BYU continues finishing
with better overall records and higher national rankings.Desperation
dims logic as the Utes once again try to spin another embarrassing meltdown
after the euphoria of a big win.Just like last year, the Utes
crashed and burned after their BYU win, only this time, there's little
chance that the Utes will be able to right the ship anytime soon with likely
losses to USC, UCLA and Oregon State filling Utah's horizon for the next
Hey phoenix, as other have said. BYU is owned by a PAC 12 cellar dweller! USU is looking good. Better watch out.Oh yeah, BYU is 6-9 all time
against San Jose St!
Again, why is BYU being brought up in a post about the Utah-ASU game? Not sure
why those people aren't following their own team....but ok. Anyway, as
fans lets stay positive and support our team instead of trashing them.
cedarcityute,it works both ways. have you ever read the comments for
a byu article?
Isn't it hard to be a byu fan? They have to use other teams to make the
Utes look bad. I would think after being beat 3 in a row, 8 out of 11, 13 out
of 20 you may want to take a break on the team that dominates you. BYU fans
call us cougar haters we are but at least we can use our own team to dog the
cougs, where the cougs (fans) have to use all the teams we are playing. BYU
CANNOT BEAT BYU, go Hawaii.All the SC T-shirts your book store
ordered will be there by Friday.
No matter how far the conversation of the BYU-Utah rivalry goes, no one will
win. BYU has bragging rights in other sports and education, and Utah has it in
football. How about we all just watch the game and congratulate the other team?