How many of you have been bribed to deny your faith?That is pretty
weak - and it is equally weak to write an article giving advice on how to
respond to someone who would do such a thing.Is this really the kind
of "criticisms" you think we are, or will be, facing?
@ The key to accomplishing this is: Consistent scripture study. True, Greek is
helpful as well:(82 B.C.)Alma 11:24... but thou lovest that *lucre
more than me. Did JS unknowingly copy a 14th century KJV English translation
of *lucre from the Latin, lucrum which was translated from the Greek word
I M LDS 2Yes, I believe bribes are one of many means of trying to
cause a person to deny his/her faith and they appear as directly as we read
about in the scripture referenced and they also appear more subtly. Since when is it weakness to know and understand your opponent? Since when
does an opponent not seek to get the advantage in any contest? I think you are
disingenuous in your attempt to excuse the scriptures as weak. Mormon, the
Prophet and Seer would not have included the narrative of Alma, Amulek and
Zeezrom in the abridgement if it were not for our benefit to read it.One does not have to be a scriptural master to use them effectively in putting
down false claims and witnesses. All that is needed is for one to be familiar
with the scriptures and drawing upon their rightful assistance of the Ghost Holy
to bring things to their remembrance when needed. The enemies of the
church are every bit as bold today as was Zeezrom. They and will test yours and
my will right out of the gate and then adapt as necessary, just as Zeezrom did.
Why is it that people who are critical focus on destroying other's beliefs
and don't have anything better or anything productive or positive to offer?
@Sharrona, "(82 B.C.)Alma 11:24... but thou lovest that *lucre
more than me. Did JS unknowingly copy a 14th century KJV English translation of
*lucre from the Latin, lucrum which was translated from the Greek word
kerdos,#2771?"Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon into
the only version of English he was very familiar with, namely, the King James
version of the Bible. What is so hard to understand about that?
Kimball, that to me is the million dollar question. For some, life is not that
great, except for their faith. Without their faith, their lives would have
little or no value. I am included in that category. My faith has made my life
enjoyable. Without it, I would just as soon not live. So why would some,
thinking they are looking out for my own good, try and tear down my faith?
Don't they realize that is what keeps me, and countless others, going from
day to day?
Yes, Timothy Berman... it's a GREAT idea to use talks from leaders. But, is
that "official doctrine"?
@JDL - thank you for your candid response to I M LDS 2. Kimball, that is
definitely a good question (as Killpack stated). We can speculate an answer.
Some claim to be motivated by true desire and love, yet do not realize the error
in their thinking or lack of thinking when discussing our faith.
RE: Fern RL, JS was very familiar with, namely, the KJV of the Bible?1. Did Jesus(A.D 34) teach the Nephites an abstract prayer, or did JS copy the
poor KJV translation and manuscripts added later?LDS scholar William
Hamblin. The evil one [ho poneros]. (John 17:15). This phrase is often
understood by modern Christians as a prayer for protection from evil in an
Abstract sense. But in its first century context, (ho poneros) meant the Evil
One=Satan.In 3 Nephi 13:12, (Jesus)“And lead us not into
temptation, but deliver us from evil”(abstract). In Mt 6:13 NIV,
The correct translation is “ deliver us from the evil one”(Satan).
Also verse 13,the doxology in Nephi is not found in earlier and better
manuscripts of the Matthew 6:13.2. Mormon Doctrine p. 555 The
Prophet explains there is nothing in the original word in Greek… that
signifies paradise. Wrong,The word "paradise" is in the O. T.(Genesis
2:8 Septuagint) a garden(paradeisos,3857)in the east of Eden. Luke
23:43&JSTv,44 ,( Jesus)"Today shalt thou be with me in paradise".
I am not sure I get this, wasnt zeeroms a character in the jetson cartoons? Not
sure i get the connection,