i'd just like to know if the same people bashing the neighbor and police
are the same commentators who rip on the parents when their unsupervised kids
are victms of crimes committed by strangers. A lot of hypocrisy on these boards
from people so quick to always pass judgemnt. I agree that this mom
shouldn't have been arrested. When will we realize parents can't watch
their children 24/7, no matter how great of parents they are. Remember your
feelings on this story if your quick to fault a parent for not watching their
child like they should have.
@ Linus -"If I wanted to make up a fictional story to make the whole
thing more comfortable, then I would become a fiction-writer and try to get
published."What in my theory makes anything more
"comfortable"? That's an odd word choice.I still say
there's a very strong likelihood of some background/neighborhood history
not addressed in the article. Read between the lines, Linus.
So the mom is "abandoning a child" if she is watching them from, what,
less than a block away? So, what if your five-year-old walks three blocks to
school? Throw the parents in jail! Like some of the other readers here, I had
the run of the neighborhood at that age. I just had to head home when the
streetlights started to come on.If the kids were riding their
scooters in an unsafe manner, the police officer should have warned the mom.
Problem solved. The police department in this case seems to be suffering from
some kind of collective mental illness.
I find it ironic how quick some people are to jump all over the neighbor for
being so quick to jump all over the mom.We know so little, yet judge
so quickly....and at times, so harshly.
This was unfortunate, and lessons can be drawn. I can speak with some
experience because I'm pretty sure my wife and I are being ostracized by
one of our neighbors because she thinks we don't supervise our kids closely
enough. But overreactions like those of A1994 are just as
ridiculous. Fire the police chief and sue the concerned neighbor who raised the
question with police? Please. And how this became a partisan issue for some, I
don't know; just goes to show how one-track-minded some of us have become.
When I was six or seven I would disappear for the whole day, showing up for
dinner at the right time. My mom would ask me if I had fun, give me a hug and
welcome me home. That was it. It is ludicrous to assume child endangerment
because you, as a parent, aren't standing over your child in an obvious [to
everyone else] supervisory role. Where is common sense? Or does assumption and
stupidity reign rampant more than ever?
If I really wrote what I'm thinking about this nonsense, the Deseret News
wouldn't allow it. Suffice it to say that this is the stupidest thing
I've heard in a long time. At the very least the cops should have used
some common sense before they jailed her (like issue her a citation)and she
should never have been jailed.
I might add that when I was 17 my parents didn't know where I was typically
because I was TRYING to alleviate them knowing where I was.Again,
this is ridiculous and everyone knows it.
I'm all for arresting her! Call it a crime and punish for it! Luckily our
constitution requires that the law equally apply to everyone. In that case,
arrest everyone! We're all going to jail. Ha ha ha ha!!Yeah,
some things get more ridiculous by the day. New federal law: "Children can
never be alone." 1) What a laugh, really... 2) Good luck enforcing it on
more namby pamby democrats stealing our freedom.....this is what Bloomberg and
Obama are all about!
I second Kralon's comment -- if this were the case when I was growing up,
my parents would have spent many nights in jail. Sheesh, lighten up people! I
didn't realize you had to be a consenting adult to play outside in Texas
without your mommy's oversight. Time to cut the umbilical cord already.
The police chief needs to be fired. The neighbor needs to be prosecuted for
filing a false police report. This is disgusting that this is happening in
When I lived in San Diego, I lived in a mobile home park at the end of a street
(no outlet). My kids played in front of the house. My neighbor accused me of not
watching my kids, but sit in the window sewing. I responded that I sat in that
window to watch my child, and when he disappeared from view, I went to the
windows that looked out over the street and looked out after him. He got in
trouble, but always got caught and disciplined. What makes me laugh is than when
his next child came, he never watched her. The other kids had to come get him to
check up on his kid because she was causing trouble. Maybe the neighbor was
bothered by the motorized bikes and didn't see the mother sitting there.
Children need to learn autonomy -- to govern themselves. Having mommy watch them
all the times does nothing for them. Where I live now, no one watches their
kids. And no one calls the police unless there is legal problems (stealing,
Please be aware that the definitions of "good" parenting differ
extensively when it comes to machinery of many types, including scooters, and
kids of various ages. Probably the most spectacular fight ever not recorded in
Washington state was about kids(me) and machinery and occurred between my mom
and dad when I was three. So if parents can disagree, it takes no imagination at
all to see that neighbors might disagree and as a corollary that society will
take unnecessary and mistaken action as did the police department even after
consulting by telephone with their district attorney office. Obvious because of
subsequent events, the story on the telephone was insufficient for good advice.
Anti home schooler hate crime.
I don't think the government had anything to do with it, so there's no
sense looking for somebody in a suit behind a tree. No doubt it was the whole
idea that pervades too many of today's self-syled "experts" that a
"good" parent provides "social", "growth" or
"learning" experiences for the kiddos so if they are having unstructured
good times with each other (free play, it was called once upon a time) that our
intrepid stay-at-home Mom is sipping something she shouldn't or watching
soaps on TV. Then some poor police officer is drawn into it and the cops are
trying to do their job, unaware that the neighborhood "child expert" is
at it again.
Seems like a busybody neighbor is part of this but the police dong what they did
is beyond reason. This is Big Brother or the Nanny State coming right after
you! I hope she wims the lawsuit and I hope the neighbor that did this is
If the police come to my neighborhood they will make their day arresting
parents! There are little kids (younger than 6) running around in the street
with no adult supervision, as a matter of fact you don't even see who these
kids belong to because all doors and blinds are closed and I don't live in
a cul-de-sac. My own mom used to leave me at the pool for hours while she
ran errands, always reminding me to be careful and not talk to strangers. Bottom line is...our parents did it to us or we may have left our child
unsupervised during playing time. Why this mother got arrested for it? Good
question. It will be interesting to see how this story develops...
re: easternobserver You are right; you are guessing. There ought to
be something more to this story than society gone nuts, but in this day of
government intrusion, regulation, and nannyism, nothing is surprising anymore.
The article actually told what the children were doing and where they were doing
it. So there is no need for you to make up an alternate story. As for
myself, I like to assume that the clues to what happened in a news story are in
the story. If I wanted to make up a fictional story to make the whole thing
more comfortable, then I would become a fiction-writer and try to get published.
Sounds like there must be something more to this story... Maybe the kids were
trespassing or doing something on the scooters that appeared to be unsafe to
the neighbor who made the report, or perhaps this was just one more salvo in a
long-running spat between the the adults involved. I'm guessing it's
Welcome to the age of hyper-parenting. Here's to hoping she wins her
lawsuit. By the time I was ten I was camping, fishing, and riding my bike for
miles without adult supervision. Sheesh.
holder will surface and make it a federal charge.
Wow, is there a statute of limitations on child abandonment? Otherwise my momma
is soooo going to jail! And starting about 6 years old I never stayed anywhere
close to home!