Orrin is slow to remember things, has a problem with the truth if the facts do
not advance his cause and has not made enough of a difference to separate
himself between those he serves with who are not bound by a higher law.He will continue to achieve mediocrity because he refuses to be bigger than
his party.Orrin has some good ideas about balancing the budget, too
bad he has yet to learn line upon line as if he was able to lessen the debt load
it would be some relief but his all or nothing attitude has seen him beating the
balanced budget drum for more than 10 years and what is a good idea will be
avoided as Orrin is seen as a person unable or unwilling to work with others.He has become a law unto himself, anything he does is just fine,
according to him. Sad to say when men gain a little power or authority...Orrin is no different.
I don't know anything about Howell and I would not vote for Hatch so it
seems I need to study up on Howell and find out why he is so adamant about
Hatch not being reelected. He needs to spend time letting us know more about
him, and why he would like to be elected. Hatch has many years in politics of
which I don't think is good and I believe it is time for him to retire
instead of bleeding the system for his own gain, so if I was Howell, I would
find something good and interesting to debate and quit wasting time with Hatch.
It doesn't create a positive picture of Howell whining about some older
political man. Give us some info about yourself and hopefully people will have a
desire to look into your background and learn more about you.
Yes. Orrin is old. Howell is old, too. So what. If Orrin passes in office,
then another Republican will be appointed. Utah is not Democratic at any age.
GO OLD ORRIN. YOU CAN BEAT THAT YOUNG MAN.
Re: DRay Roy, UT"Therefore it doesn't seem wrong for comparing
his age to that of ldrshp in his church..."Works for me. The
Quorum of The Twelve and President of the LDS Church serve until they die.
I was leaning toward voting for Howell but no more. His comments were totally
out of line with what I expect from a United States Senator.
I was going to vote for him but I'm not so sure now. Seems like a pretty
Howell is being divisive by age baiting, of course he probably has little to
If you knew Orrin Hatch like I know Orrin Hatch, you would know why he's
running for another term. Personally, I can't comment on why but he has
alluded to it from time to time. Because what I know is frankly none of your
business, and if he knew that I knew it, he'd most likely be put out by it.
Just suffice it to say, it isn't about ego. It's about service.
Daniel Inouye is still perking along just fine. I saw him in DC last summer and
he was walking with what I would call vigor. And he's a WWII veteran.Howell is just plain dumb to bring this issue up. Hansen's
characterization of the LDS General Authorities is actually a fine one. L. Tom
Perry is 90 and working just fine. Nelson is in his mid 80's and he's
just fine. Oaks, Packer, Monson, Ballard, Scott, Hales are all over 80, and
Eyring is 79 and I'm sure they would disagree with Howell. A
couple of notable exceptions from last conference. H. David Burton was 73 when
he got released as Presiding Bishop and his councilor Richard C. Edgley was 76
when he got released. So Scott, it doesn't always work.
Sen. Hatch has often pointed out his membership in the lds church as a selling
point for folks to vote for him, at least as a lifelong Utah resident, this has
been my impression. Therefore it doesn't seem wrong for comparing his age
to that of ldrshp in his church......I believe in term limits, and that
much of the abuse of power in Government would go away if terms were limited so
a Senator's job would not become a lifetime vocation.
I guess most LDS who are Democrats just "check their religion at the
I'm happy to see Howell get attention. His retorts to Hatch's
responses are well-informed and spot-on. It might not be politic to attack
Hatch on his age -- as it's true that many people are still quite healthy
at that age -- but anybody who has met with Hatch recently (I have) knows that
the people of Utah would be better off if he'd retire and spend time with
his grandkids as he promised 6 years ago. His memory is fuzzy and his
comprehension of new data is slow. He hasn't championed anything with
passion in the past 20 years except the Patriot Act, more war, and heavy handed
punishments for flag burning. You might support some or all of that, but I find
it disturbing and against our Founding Principles. I would have voted for Hatch
36 years ago when he campaigned on Liberty and State's rights. I *have*
voted for Hatch in the last decade and I won't do it again.
Do Howell's comments show desparation? Maybe so. OK, probably so. However, to be fair, does spending $8 million plus just to win a primary
election for a job that pays less than a quarter million a year not also show
I am 85 years old, in good health, and still operating a small business.I resent Mr. Howell's insinuation that "old" age is a
detriment. I think most people value wisdom and experience above
youth and exuberance.Also, finding fault with your competitor is a
low class approach to competition. Mr. Howell would do well to emphasize
"his" qualifications for the office he seeks and avoid his childish
assaults on Mr. Hatch's age.
Any way you slice it our country is in dire straits. Another Democrat in
Congress makes it that much worse just more spending. We are headed for
catastrophe and a lot of people are only interested in their food stamps or
welfare checks. Hatch may not be perfect, but his voting record is still pretty
conservative. If he drops out I would rather have a Republican governor name
Nothing Howell says or dies will give him the slightest chance of defeating
Hatch, so you'd think he would want to maintain a little credibility,
decorum, and decency during his losing bid.But, I guess that's
just asking too much of a politician.
Age isn't a factor. Competency is. When you lack the latter you must
attack the former. Senator Hatch has my vote.
We do not elect public officials for life. Sorry, but you could have fooled me.
Hatch is begging for one more term...his last. Sounds like an old man who just
can't let go of his ego. He has served Utah well...not all 36 years but
well enough. He has become a wealthy man and made many of his staffers rich as
well. His being in Congress means nothing and won't change the performance
of perhaps the worst Congress in modern history. In fact, I would have to say
that he is part of the problem. This country needs to re-examine tenure and this
idea of elder statesman. We need term limits which equates responsibility and
accountability. Arguing for one last term raises the red flag that Hatch will be
able to do whatever he wants with no accountability because he won't be
running for re-election. This is a guy who has hired individuals who have
profited from 36 years of career politicking. Enough. We need new leadership.
Unfortunately, he won the Republican primary. But of course, his ego just seems
to get in the way.
Being younger doesn't automatically make one more competent. Try giving a
real reason to vote FOR you, Howell.
Senator Hatch is advanced in age, but if he's healthy, then it's a
non-issue. I think that the primary raised the issue of his age a few times, so
this is a rather exceedingly beaten zombie horse.
I seemed to detect just a slight mixing of religion and politics in this
Howell is using age descrimination which is against the law at any business. At
least we now know what kind of person he really is. I would never vote for
someone who thinks like this.
Howell sounds desperate. Can't they leave the Church out of this, including
the statements that this or that politician who is LDS is a good member of the