If Riley plays we loose. He has never won against good competition and never
will. Good thing he fields punts or he would be playing defense.
Although BYU had almost a hundred more yards moving the ball, it was missed
field goals. penalties, and turnovers that lost the game.Utes were
flat out lucky.
In 2011, the first center snap, or one of the first ones, resulted in a turnover
and Utah TD. This year, the first center snap was bungled, and except for a face
mask penalty, the Utes would have scored a safety. In both cases, the offense
was in a shotgun formation.Doesn't it seem logical to have
Riley under center for at least a series, before having the center hike it in a
risky shotgun formation? This is just of many details the coaches missed.
werThats a really good point! They really should do that
I feel for the defense. They did their part. To have the offense give up
points has to be very frustrating. Harmon provided some insight on what Riley
did in the game, did anyone else catch that? Or am I crazy? He mentioned
getting play calls in late, messing with hand signals, yelling out assignments
as the play clock is winding down, it sounded like mass confusion. At the same
time, Riley's body language, er, his facial expression told the whole
story. I don't know that I believe that he's such an unflinching
competitor, or I'm at least torn between his nonverbal and his ability to
bring the team back to kick the game tying field goal. To his credit, he
didn't signal for the ball when it got hiked to Draper. I don't know
what the center thought he saw, but Riley was still reading the defense. Too
bad it cost them the game. In spite of all the mistakes, they still almost got
I DO question Riley's heart. He played entirely flat against Utah and
failed to get his team focused when they needed it. He was rattled by the noise
and made some risky throws. He is not battle tested (hasn't played 12 games
yet) and it shows. It is up to the coaches to get him prepped and ready for
Thursday. I just wish all our guys could play with more fire in the belly. We
don't want to win badly enough...
BYU's offense always falters in the big games. The offensive coaching
staff simply has not prepared them.
Cougars fans should send some soap to BYU football team.
I am with eastcoastcoug. I also question Riley's heart. When things went
badly against Utah, there were MANY moments where the camera found him and it
looked like he was on the verge of tears. His body language and facial
expressions made it seem like the team had already lost instead of just being
down 10 points.I think Riley gives the team the best chance to win,
but if he gets like that against Boise, I will be calling for Lark. Riley's
best attribute is his fire and the way he inspires his team-mates. His arm and
decision making are both worse than Lark's, so if the toughness and the
fire go, then he will need to find a place on the bench.All that
said, BSU has not looked like the world-beater they have been in the past. I am
cautiously optomistic about the Cougars ability to bounce back from the Utah
loss and 'steal' a win in Boise.
If BYU doesn't give the game away like it did against Utah, we will beat
EdGrady,Not always. They've won alot of games the past five
Some of the play-calling seemed uninspired to me, especially in the 3rd quarter.
How many times did the Cougars run that option where Nelson was dropped for no
gain? I'm waiting for BYU to open up the field with more passing like they
did to Hoffman and Friel. Get Apo, Falslev, other tight ends, receivers, and
running backs out of the backfield more involved in the game.
worf"Utes were flat out lucky."HUH? No John
White, No Blechen or Rowe. If Kruger had not brushed Nelson's face mask
with his hand, it would have been a safety and they would have gotten the ball
back. I believe you meant to say, the Utes were flat out un-lucky.
How is it that when you fumble 7 times and only turn it over 2 times not lucky.
We won't even start with the 3 15 yard personal fouls that were absolutely
phantom that kept BYU's drives going 2 on one series. Nice try on that one.
If you could take a step back and realize what could have happened if BYU
didn't get all the LUCKY breaks. For BYU to even be in the game shows a
lot of fight and some good bounces. The game was sloppy for both teams. Better
luck next year! Please stop with the Lucky stuff!!
Any news yet about BYU's actions on Falslev swearing at Utah Fans?
Central Texan - Couldn't agree with you more!!Coach Doman
should take some of the blame in the horrible offensive showing by BYU. Please,
more play action and open field passing.....Please! (Oh, but maybe Riley just
doesn't have the arm)??
@carsonOf course not nor will there be. Any news yet on utah's
actions on the kid that committed armed robbery? Oh yes that's right, they
awarded him a scholarship.
@carsonHow about any news yet about utah's actions on the utah
"fans" that rushed the field and taunted and swore at the BYU players
and coaches? Nope nothing done to this point, not even an institutional apology.
Doubt anything at all will be done about any of it.
DuckhunterHighland, UTRefresh my memory. Was there anything
done about the BYU fan who grabbed Whittingham's wife at the end of the BYU
game in Provo (picture of such act was all over the paper)?
"Of course not nor will there be. Any news yet on utah's actions on the
kid that committed armed robbery? Oh yes that's right, they awarded him a
scholarship."No second chances?
DuckyYou should read the story on that "kid that committed armed
robbery". I'm sure you could get much out of it and take a lot from the
life of that "kid". Kinda like how you can probably get a
lot out of the experiences of the "kid that was busted for DUI" who is
the best player on the cougs D.Don't try and make it look like
these things do not happen at byU. They do.
Riles isn't very good. Many see it. BYU has a very talented WR in
Hoffman, but Riles struggles to get him the ball. BYU also has a good TE, but,
again, the ball is coming towards him end over end. Where's Apo? I
thought he was going to be a major part of the offense.The offensive
play, literally and figuratively, will not improve until BYU switches QBs.
This, of course, won't happen becuase Sunshine has the key to Roscoe's
heart. It's going to be funny watching BYU drop another game in such a
short period of time.
Doman has to come up with a better game plan. Trying to bore the defense to
death as he did the last game just won't work!Doman is as predictable
as his predecessor!
DevilishUte As a Cougar fan, I couldn't have said it better
myself. You hit it ALL right on the head... except for the part about losing and
You notice all these Ute fans still justifying there win, if you really believe
you deserved the win you wouldn't have to keep saying it. It's like
the manager who got the position because of who he knows vs what he did to earn
it. So he makes sure everyone know that he deserved the position. You
wouldn't have to say that if you really believed it. So just go away stick
with your own boring team!If BYU can beat Boise in Boise I'll
feel a bit better about things. What I'm frustrated with is that
they're talented but it's like they don't work on the details.
And special teams, they haven't been that great, it hurt them at Utah.
It's great that starters want to be in there on special teams but it
doesn't seem to be working, put in some of these guys who are hungry and go
all out. Hopefully Bronco can clean up all these miscues because those miscues
is what beats them in every big game. Last year with TCU another example, 3-4
plays that kill them.
Reading you're articles is like reading a note book of useless one-line
cliches. "Can it be done?We shall see."At least
you have the guts to call out Riley. He cannot beat the tough teams to get BYU
to a bowl game. Not anymore than Jake could.
Kyle's wife was not in danger. His son started a fight. I was there. Get
your facts straight.
It's simple really. Nelson is a competitor, I'll always give him
that. But, he's not a D1 QB: he's undersized, he can't make all
the throws a D1 QB must make to challenge a defense, he's not that fast and
he constantly forces things. He has no chance to win big as a QB at this
level...none.To my mind it speaks volumes about Doman that he is
such a poor assessor of QB talent. First Heaps and now Nelson, and the
liabilities of each was clear from the get go. I've posted on those for
three years and have always believed that Lark gives BYU the best chance to win.
Sadly for him and Cougar fans, his career has now been wasted. At this point
the Cougars would be better off putting the Hill kid under center.
Good point, Dnay. For a team that's supposed to be built on execution,
assignment knowledge and clean play, they are typically pretty sloppy and
@Golfhack20You can't have it both ways Golfhack. In last years
game BYU fans complained about all the luck that went your way with flukey
unforced fumbles that your defense didn't earn but was "gifted" and
yet Ute fans didn't want to hear any part of it.Now you're
complaining that fumbles didnt' bounce your way, complaining about the
officiating, etc. With all the Pac12 refs we've had to use since turning
Independent we're sort of getting used to terrible officiating. Since you
guys are members of that conference shouldn't you already be used to the
cruddy refs?Instead of complaining you guys should be counting your
blessings that Riley hurt his back the week before (had to leave the Weber game
at halftime) and was obviously heavily medicated to start the Utah game to the
point of being so loopy he couldn't hang onto the ball, pay attention when
the ball was snapped or even throw a decent pass. It took him 3 quarters to
clear his head and start playing like his usual self. By then he'd spotted
you a 17 pt lead and almost took it back.
@Carson"Any news yet about BYU's actions on Falslev swearing at
Utah Fans?"Falslev has a part time job working as a clerk in the
Utah County Courthouse. He's probably sworn in a lot of utah fans before
they testify in their own defense or the defense of their family or friends. You
can usually read about it in the crime blotter page of the Daily Herald although
they don't mention Falslev by name.Hope that clears things up.
@uTahCounTyuTe"Don't try and make it look like these things do
not happen at byU. They do."That player you referred to
wasn't a BYU student when that happened. You should get your facts right
before making stuff up. He then sat out a year to get things together before
enrolling and joining the football team.