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Published: Saturday, Sept. 15 2012 10:10 p.m. MDT

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gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

Hey BYU fans. Yes, Riley is no star talent but he is a solid leader. BYU has offensive line issues just like Utah. Riley needs protection despite his scrambler ways. I will give you the big difference between Riley and Heaps. Remember the bad shotgun snap to start the game last year? Heaps got scared and let Utah fall on it for the early TD. Well that same bad snap came again to start the game tonight. Except this time with Riley at QB, he attacks the ball to try and force no worse than a safety while getting mutilated. Riley is tough and Kruger bailed out BYU with a face mask.

couglifer
South Jordan, UT

@sportsfanforlife

@couglifer besides me telling the truth? and besides you were even lucky to be in the game? haha it says im absolutely right.

Ok you are so right, right up until you started typing I think you have had too much red punch. I may have missed spoke when I said that Pac 12 fans would not rush the field and yes it was said more than once that rushing the field at BYU was a joke and if I had all the fee time in the world I would go and find the comments. But you are wrong in your statement that BYU should not have been in the game defense and mental errors won this game BYU lead in all phases of this game but 2 finale score and mental errors check the states. Also your statement about inferior opponent I seem to remember Utah lost to Utah State this year your statement said you lost to an (in your own words) inferior opponent.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

Agreed. Star and Van Noy were men among boys.

This game was ugly, but that's normal in this rivalry isn't it? I would say I ahve now seen it all, but next year might even be stranger yet. Tonight's game was like reverse karma for Utah from 1998. Then Utah moved down in chip shot FG range to win the game, but on the pass that set up the FG try, there was a flag for excessive celebration (hate that call in college ball). Utah moves back 15 yards and Kaneshiro's kick goes off the post. Tonight was doink part II, this time in Utah's favor.

Think of all the last play of the game wins or losses this rivalry has had. It started in 1993 with the last second FG that gave Utah the 34-31 win. Just since 2005, it's happened again and again. Utah over BYU in overtime at BYU in 2005. BYU's Beck hits Harline the next season (2006), Hall finds George 2009 (overtime), then Utah wins in 2010 and 2012 on the last play. Other games except Ute blowouts were decided in the last 20 seconds.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

These games always open the door for excuses (valid or not). I like to bring up that Utah has won 8 of 11 and 13 of the last 20, but some wins could have been losses as well. That said, I also look at the 'what could have beens' in the loss column. Utah self destructed on two 4th and 18 dream scenarios and let BYU beat them deep in losses in 2000 and 2007. Last night on 4th and 12, the Utes let BYU beat them deep AGAIN. Come on Whitt, make that never happen again. The one second left on the clock call was the right one and I knew it right when it happened. However, the game shouldn't have gotten to that point. When Riley was sacked with 25 seconds left (deep in BYU's own territory), the refs flagged Utah for a second rescinded call on the night. Although the officials picked up the flag, the clock stopped and it allowed BYU to save at least 8 seconds and organize a play. How about the favorable spots BYU got while Utah got short changed in that regard all night. This game irritated me.

technonerd7
orem, ut

To "realist":
Passing yds: BYU 206 Utah 196
Total yards: BYU 312 Utah 245
Reusing yards: BYU 106 Utah 49
Penalty yards: Byu 75 yds Utah 112 yds

BYU was the better team, yet we lost. I am definitely not delusional. I had this as a 3 point game. Just the other way. I didn't think BYU would run the table. I nail BYU for running the same running play over and over and over and over. It doesn't change the fact we didn't take care of the ball and gift wrapped the game (in the form of a botched snap to touchdown) to Utah. Last year we gave up about 28 points in turnovers in the second half on turnovers. The game before that was a great special teams block on the final field goal of the game.

On a positive note, both teams defense looks great, and John Hays is one tough guy. He got nailed very hard several times. Wow.

Cowboy Dude
SAINT GEORGE, UT

Gutsy to not play John White IV. Next week's game is far more important.

bballjunkie
Pleasant Grove, UT

First Ute fans stop with the better team won tonight. If BYU does not screw up that exchange (that went for a TD) your loose that game. Tell me how utah was not given that game? That had nothing to do with utah being a better team. get real

I will continue to say "I have never believed Riley was a D-1 qb" and it shows.

Utah fan you will be lucky to break 500 in the pac 12. with that team. Not a good team in more ways than one.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Shouldn't have run off Anae and Heaps.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

@technonerd7

There are other stats and things to consider. Being a good team isn't just about the stats you mentioned. Making mistakes and turning the ball over is part of your teams grade scale. Utah won the turnover battle +2. Actually, consider the amount of times BYU put the ball on the ground and they are lucky they recovered all but one of those. Utah forced some fumbles and BYU flubbed some others. Don't forget two more interceptions Utah could of had, as they set themselves up for it and dropped it (flubs of their own).

All in all, this was one of the worst officiating jobs of the year. Thanks ESPN, it seems to me (conspiracy craziness) that you tried to save your image by seeking to profit illegitimately from your contract with BYU.

Maybe BYU could have 4 losses before November, then run the table against Idaho, San Jose State, and New mexico State and get ranked again. That's what happened last year. BYU is not ranked, beats four softies in November and gets ranked. Doesn't an honest BYU fan see that as a shady ranking?

sportsfanforlife
salt lake city, UT

@bballjunkie

you sound like the most pathetic y fan of them all. the better team won without a doubt. your team is pathetic enough they cant even take a game that is gift wrapped for them to take! haha!

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@bballjunkie

Sour grapes man. Utah wasn't "given" the game, they just took advantage of BYU's mistakes. That is what good teams do. Also you could make the case that if BYU were the better team, they wouldn't make mistakes like snapping the ball past the QB. It happened twice. Further, BYU had 3 chances to win the game late, and failed each time.

The fact is, Utah is a better team than BYU despite the fact that Utah was playing without it's starting QB, RB, and both safeties. The good news is that you can already start looking forward to next year seeing as how BYU's season is over now.

bballjunkie
Pleasant Grove, UT

@sportsfanforlife
and twin brother Two For Flinching

No soar grapes here boys, and if you can tell me how your Utah team is such the better team, I am all ears. But the fact is you can't and if BYU is so much lower class of a team than your mighty utes explain to me how you expect your team to even come close to competing in the mighty pac 12? If you can't honesty say you weren't given the game on a platter "because thats what good teams do" to win, how did you loose to a WAC team? And if your team is so good how do they just "luck" out on beating a independent team? If you are so good,explain to me how many points your high power offense of yours actually scored? how many points aganst a lower quality team such as BYU?

Who is the pathetic fans? We all know ute fans don't all speak at once.
Talk facts and not smack and back up what you say. Pathetic good call.

sportsfanforlife
salt lake city, UT

@bballjunkie

uh yeah actually i CAN tell you how utah has the better as they showed it for the COUNTRY TO SEE.

"If you can't honesty say you weren't given the game on a platter "because thats what good teams do" to win, how did you loose to a WAC team? And if your team is so good how do they just "luck" out on beating a independent team? If you are so good,explain to me how many points your high power offense of yours actually scored? how many points aganst a lower quality team such as BYU?"

yeah you are DEFINITELY about as delusional as they come. utah lucked out when they had a 24-7 lead going into the 4th quarter and didnt attempt one pass the whole 4th quarter? utah lucked out when they GAVE you chance after chance after chance to get back in the game? utah lucked out when they let you have a 4th and 13 for 47 yards? hahaha you y fans are so delusional and you act like we didnt watch the same game as you, only funny thing is you delusional fans try to interpret it differnt lol

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@bballjunkie

Nobody said BYU is "so much lower." All I said is that Utah is the better team. Evidenced by the fact that Utah won the game, the last 3, 4 of the last 5, and 8 of the last 11. Weird Utah gets "lucky" so much.

Nobody ever said Utah had a "high powered offense." Utah's offense did exactly what they needed to, and that was protect the ball and score "enough".

Utah can compete in the PAC by playing the same way they played BYU. Tough D, and the offense must continue to limit TOs and take advantage of opportunities created by the defense. Special teams and penalties need to be addressed though.

Finally, LOL @ you telling other people to talk facts and not smack. There is not one fact in either of your posts. It's just a long frantic rant about Utah being lucky. Give credit where credit is due.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

Just my opinion
Salt Lake City, UT

The field goal hit the upright of the goal post at 11:59, it had to hit the post, because the game had to end. BYU diesn't play on Sundays.

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Apparently it doesn't play on Saturdays either: 8 of 11 Utah.

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