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Published: Wednesday, Sept. 12 2012 6:14 p.m. MDT

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DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Some of what Howell says actually make sense.

However, as a Democrat, he will be aligned with (or more accurately, under the thumb of) Harry Reid, who has refused to pass a budget for more than three years, refuses to vote on bills passed by the House, and has passed ZERO of 12 appropriations bills needed to fund the government for the fiscal year starting 18 days from now.

Howell being elected would keep Reid at Senate President. That is 90% of the problem in the Senate right there, so electing Howell will not fix anything, regardless of the value of some of his ideas. Of course, many of his ideas are typical worthless Democrat "tax and spend" stuff anyway, and he should be defeated for that reason alone.

Hatch is not much better, being long on talk about how senior and smart he is, but he has actually done little to justify continuing his eternal service in the Senate. But, even Hatch is better than Harry Reid or a Democrat controlled Senate, so let's hold our noses and vote for Hatch (again!) and hope he actually lives up to his promises this term.

My2Cents
Taylorsville, UT

Wrong again, jobs that force people into poverty is an economic disaster. How can they be proud of that accusation?

If Utah and the other 49 states would enforce the Federal Labor Law Act then the economy might have a chance to stabilize itself. But when jobs are created to keep people in poverty the only beneficiary are undocumented and illegal foreign nationals and corporate Utah who can work tax free and still get %50,000/yr in welfare funding.

It has come to the attention by public disclosure what a middle class wage should be for the state of the economy and cost of living. Includes food, gas, health care, rent or mortgage, car payments, vacation, credit card debt, taxes, cost of government, and that wage has been compared to the standard of living in 1973.

That independent and self sufficient middle class wage has the current inflation adjusted equivalency of $250,000/yr. The very same wage that our president and Utah calls excessive. If the young workers of today want the same prosperity of their parents, this is the target income for middle class workers in any form of labor.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Scott Howell says "The key to getting the economy back on track is jump-starting job creation". Yeah, I'll agree with that. Best way to do that is get government's fingers out of job creation and watch job creation blossom.

Obama's idea of creating jobs is to spend $50,000 for every $25,000 job he can create ..... using the taxpayer's money to do it.

Rikitikitavi
Cardston, Alberta

Howell may well have some good ideas however there are two huge obstacles: 1)Harry Reid, and 2) BO. Obama has chosen to govern from the far left plus he is is totally lacking in leadership needed to bring the two sides together. No President can be successful who insists in governing from the far left or from the far right.

Esquire
Springville, UT

Too bad Hatch has no plan. Like his party's presidential nominee, it is more about personal interests rather than the needs of Utahns. The whole of the GOP is not serving the majority of us, so I'll go with someone who seems to care and vote for Howell. And DN Subscriber, if Howell is willing to use resources to help the average American, diverting those resources from programs to pay the rich (see Sen. Tom Coburn's (R-OK) report on Welfare for the Rich and Famous), and is willing to actually pay for them, I guess I would rather have a tax and spend Democrat rather than a borrow and spend Republican. Anyone who is honest about the math will recognize that the Republicans have the history of deep debt (and they they turn around and point the fingers at others for their own actions).

Makid
Kearns, UT

DN Subscriber:

Question for you, if you know know something won't work, will you spend money to prove it won't work?

Harry Reid knows that the only way anything passes the Senate is with a 60 vote margin due to Republican filibusters. The Republicans vote against all Democrat bills and Democrats all vote against Republican bills.

So, why should the Senate spend $100+ Million on votes that are doomed to fail from the start? Should they be like the House and spend $65+ Million on votes to repeal Obamacare when they know it wouldn't even override a presidential veto?

By not voting or bringing to the floor bills doomed to fail, the Senate has saved the country over $100 Million in debt since 2010. To me, that is a side I would rather be on, the fiscal debt avoiding side. Not the Republican's spend to vote even though it won't affect anything.

I wish the Republicans voted into office in 2010 were as fiscally responsible as Harry Reid has proven to be in the last 2 years.

Makid
Kearns, UT

What I find funny is that everyone complains about Obama's job plans. Each one of his plans would have reduced taxes on small businesses, offered tax credits for creating jobs and offered tax credits to companies expanding their facilities while stopping the current tax cut for individuals making more than $500,000 yearly.

Now, each plan was derided by Republicans for - Not giving tax breaks to the Wealthy, Not making tax breaks permanent, including a tax increase and not including any spending cuts without tax increases.

But, all scholars and economists have stated that if either of the last 2 jobs bills had been passed by congress, unemployment would have gone down by as much as 3% putting unemployment near 5% total as companies would have had incentives to hire employees.

It is the Republicans that have blocked any progress on the economy with their 2 pledges. No tax increases ever and more importantly: Do everything in their power to make Obama a 1 term president over anything else.

Now, who are selfish and who are trying to help the country? The Republicans haven't even presented a jobs bill to help the economy. Just bills to repeal obamacare.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

The liberals can bellyache and complain all they want to but it won't change the fact that Hatch will be re-elected to his seat in the Senate. If they want to bring our economy out of its dive into the toilet they ought to think about replacing the guy who is never home in the White House doing what we pay him for.

Makid
Kearns, UT

Rifleman, Obama is there doing what he was elected to do. The Republicans are doing everything they can to make him a 1 term president. He is supposed to work with Congress. He wants to work with Congress. Republicans in Congress don't want to work with him.

You want to change the Presidency when he is actually working yet don't want to change Congress when they aren't doing what they were elected for...that is fixing the economy, not trying to sabotage Obama.

If the Republicans cared about the economy and the deficit like they claim, they would extend the tax cuts for all but the wealthy as a starting point and then they can try to justify why the tax cuts for the wealthy are needed when they haven't created any jobs yet.

That will help the economy, lower the deficit and create jobs while also avoiding a further downgrade of the countries credit rating.

It will never work because that means that the Republicans would have to work with Obama. That would violate their rule #1 and we just can't have that. The economy is all the fault of the president right?

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Makid Kearns, UT
"He is supposed to work with Congress."

If Obama was supposed to work with Congress it may not have been a good idea for him to tell Republicans: "We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

Do you honestly think that's the best way for a US President to encourage cooperation? Me neither.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

How can Howell reduce a $1.15 trillion deficit by $2.3 trillion?

The first thing that needs doing is ending gridlock – which means removing reid as senate majority leader.

Esquire,
Romney’s all about personal interests? That’s why he refused a salary as MA governor and why he would refuse one as POTUS. Your assertion is as wrong as it is insulting.

Makid,
how much money do they spend to call a vote in the senate? It’s a smoke screen reid hides behind so his members are not forced to vote against something their constituents want.

You are wrong claiming BO’s “jobs” plans would reduce small business taxes. Small business owners pay their business taxes through their personal taxes. Income from 1065s and 1120-Ss flow through to their personal 1040s. BO’s plans called for tax INCREASES on those making over $200k, so if the business makes $201k and the owner leaves $160k in the business, he has a PERSONAL tax liability on $201k, despite him only taking $41k out for personal use.

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