@MissouriCougI would suggest that BYU call the PAC-12 and let them
know, but the PAC-12 doesn't answer phone calls from non-accredited
universities.I love the hubris from BYU fans every September when
the US News college rankings are released since it's the only major ranking
publication (out of about 25) that ranks BYU higher than the U.
*gasp!* Has the Pac-12 seen this?!?
But Utah is tied at 125 with the academic powerhouse of Washington State in
Pullman. The Pac-12 puts academics first...yeah right.
The BOE is the most mismanaged company in the state..... There is plenty of
money.........the UEA is the problem......they lobby to keep the lousy teachers!
It was something of a jolt to see $14,000 dollars as being in the rock bottom
category for debt. I don't know how anyone makes it through school these
Besides BYU, none of the Utah schools even ranked in the top 100 nationally.
That doesn't seem very good.
very concerned - I fail to see how you come to your conclusions about my post.
UT certainly has some of the best teachers in the world. They are
certainly underpaid (especially the top 50% of teachers). But you
can't possibly believe that the bottom 10% of teachers are worth keeping.
Ask teachers in the top 25% of their trade and they will quickly point out that
many of their peers simply are not good at their jobs and that these teachers
should be fired. Good teachers know who the bad teachers are. Good
teachers have to work harder because of these bad teachers. And most
importantly, kids suffer because of bad teachers. We should fire 10% of them
tomorrow, then regroup and figure out how may more we need to fire.Too many of our kids fail because we've hired the wrong people to teach
@ ManInTheMiddle"HUGE misperception . . . . complete shame. . .
. (we) neglect our schools . . . fire 10% or teachers . . . ????"Wow. harsh words. Among other factors, given the demographics of Utah, I
would propose that our teachers do a heroic job. They are paid less than in many
other states. They get miniscule raises, are subject to ever-more unreasonable
goals/expectations (i.e. No Child Left Behind), and spend countless hours of
their own time (and money) preparing for classes. One only needs to spend
significant time with them to see the dedication most teachers have.Given the extreme nature of most of your comments, I would question who has
the skewed view. What about the parents? Where is their responsibility? We
find it convenient to blame the teachers, but with the breakdown of the family,
students and their education are invariably – and increasingly - affected
by factors outside the teachers' control.
It still amazes me that we Utahans continue to have a HUGE misperception about
the bad quality of our schools. From K through grad school one must look
outside UT if they seek an education that is even average among industrialized
countries. This means that the average education offered in the state is WAY
below average globally. It's a complete shame that our
"leaders" continue to neglect our schools. Our schools aren't good
enough - period. This report once again proves it (but again we'll
consider ourselves "good enough nationally" so why should we bother)First step? Fire the worst 10% of teachers and 20% of administrators
across the board. Then let's worry about step 2.
Thank you Utah schools (college and high school) for giving me the opportunity
to fulfill my dreams.