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Published: Tuesday, Sept. 11 2012 8:28 p.m. MDT

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ute alumni
Tengoku, UT

doesn't this "christian" church have better things to do? go knock on doors. too much work.

sammyg
Springville, UT

Just let these people do their thing and have plenty of trash cans dedicated for paper only recycling available. As long as they do not impede the pedestrian traffic and do not cause a disturbance who cares?

Every media circus needs willing participants to be the 'clowns'. You get to choose which part you play according to your behavior in the public eye.

Baccus0902
Leesburg, VA

This is the part when our Republican friends should jump against the intervention of government attempting to silence a group of citizens.

RG
Buena Vista, VA

I'm active LDS and am annoyed by "antiMormon" literature, but if this group was really not impeding traffic, then I think they might have a point.

HappyLDSUte
PROVO, UT

I think the part that bothers me is that the Main Street church wants to do this during the open house of the Temple. I don't really care what you believe, but this is being disrespectful to the LDS community. The perfect expression to describe what they are doing is "raining on the parade." You want to pass out fliers at a Mormon temple? Fine. But passing out fliers aimed at deterring one from the LDS faith DURING what (for the LDS people there) should be an exciting, happy moment is not only disruptive- it's insensitive. Pick a different day to do it. That's all. Just pick a different day and I'd be totally cool with it.

HappyLDSUte
PROVO, UT

Correction to my previous comments. I spaced the whole realization that the open house lasts for a few weeks. As long as the Main Street Church isn't there for the entirety of the open house, I wouldn't be too bothered.

Braxton
ogden, ut

I agree with sammyg. I think there should be plenty of paper recycle bins along the path. Everyone should take the paper, two or three even and immediately tear it up and put in the waste bin. Once the flyers are handed out the sooner the better, and discarded then they have nothing left but to go home. They also wasted their money in printing cost. Sounds like a good plan to me.

Cinci Man
FT MITCHELL, KY

What about my right to "freedom from speech"? I can turn off a TV or radio, or leave an internet website, but if I want to go to the temple, the only way I can be free of talk I don't wish to hear, is for the city to protect my right by requiring that I pass a certain route and that members of the anti-LDS church be elsewhere for those who wish to obtain their material. Why do they HAVE to be in my path to the temple? I can only guess, but I bet I could guess correctly.

cambodia girl
Phnom Penh, Cambodia

I wonder why the Main Street Church would want to make it's presence known during another church's activity. I have never seen the LDS church involved in this type of behavior. The pastor/minister should advise his/her congregation to be respectful and think of another way of proselyting. OR, wouldn't it be nice for this church to serve lemonade to those attending the open house (without any self serving purpose)as a Goodwill gesture? That would say more about how they follow Jesus than handing out flyers and would be so much more appreciated.

eastcoastcoug
Danbury, CT

The actions of this "church" are purely for harassment and hate. On those grounds, they should be barred from any public sidewalk. Let's call it what it is...

jazzbird
Brigham City, UT

Sounds like a desperate attempt to obtain more money for printing and publicity.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: ". . . this is being disrespectful to the LDS community."

Of course it is. That's the whole point.

But it is protected activity, so long as it doesn't impede traffic and create a safety hazard.

I gotta throw in with those who say, smile at 'em, take their printed matter, and make sure there are lots of trash cans nearby.

casual observer
Salt Lake City, UT

Let them distribute their fliers. Never interrupt an adversary when they are making fools of themselves. The ACLU can joust with other windmills.

Wally West
SLC, UT

I agree w/ the consensus thst it is a desperate attempt for publicity and bad timing.

If its deemed public access and the other church isn't a nuisance then it s/b allowed.

Bottom line; its the 21st Century I don't need a flier. If I'm curious about something then I''ll *use the google*

JLFuller
Boise, ID

People do not have to take the flyer. If they do they can always toss it. Speech issues prevail even that which is ugly.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

When the Louisville Temple was to have its open house I informed my Jewish friend that there would be protesters. He was shocked and rather angry. He offered to go and protest the protesters.

I thanked him but explained President Hinckley's policy of kindness and tolerance. Still, he found the idea of protesting the opening of religious facility to be very odd. I suppose that this church would find the prospect of other religions protesting the opening of their next building to be rather odd as well. No worries. That is not "how we roll".

May God bless them with love and understanding. Us too. There is never too much of those.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

We seem to live in a society that has taken "free speech" to the extreme, so everyone has to endure those with differing, even spiteful opinions, during what should be a time of rejoicing. It's like that Baptist Group from the midwest that demonstrates during funerals of veterans.

I guess it's too hard for the courts to decide what may be offensive so everything is allowed everywhere for any reason. Welcome to the seamy side of living in a land where liberal judges have ruled the day for decades. Too bad someone doesn't ruin a family wedding for them (though I'd hate to see innocent folks suffer that) in the name of "free speech" and see how they felt.

Sometimes we need freedom FROM certain things, not just OF certain things. At least this type of thing won't continue likely past the open house because then the bang will be gone from such behavior.

Liam_McP
Richland, WA

I'm not sure I understand why there is such a negative reaction in these comments. It's downright hateful toward the non-Mormons, it's embarrassing. The Brigham City ordinance is clearly unconstitutional. That's the issue. The same freedom of religion that has allowed Mormonism to flourish into what it is today is now being squelched to curb the freedom of people of a different faith. Agree or disagree with their message, they are citizens of Utah, which last I checked is still a part of the United States, and should therefore honor our constitutional tradition of permitting free speech, press, and religion.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

@ Liam_McP

I'll take a shot at answering your question. Yes, it is the USA and the Constitution is in play. There are also powers granted to local governments to regulate activities that can be deemed to be in the safety of the public. As everyone who has looked at US history knows, some times there is an over-reach in trying to establish what is best; other times, not; hence the lawsuit to let a court make that determination.

That aside, everyone also knows that few cities ever will have a new temple built in their boundaries and in a place like Brigham City the vast majority of residents see it as a time of rejoicing and spiritual renewal. To have a group hook onto that with their own brand of anti-Mormon message just because its more convenient or accesses a larger audience, makes one question their real motives. And to do such a thing is less than classy or benevolent or even in the spirit of what the "Bible" teaches.

Agreed, the solution is to simply turn the other cheek, but I hope you can see why this action is offensive to many.

UTCProgress
American Fork, UT

Holy cow, for a state that wraps itself in the Constitution every chance it gets, the citizens seem to be willing to discard it when it becomes an annoyance. Freedom of speech is absolute, even if you completely disagree with what is being said. Maybe it would be cool for cities in other states to limit where LDS missionaries could proselyte, because the citizens don't want to be burdened by religious speech that might cause them to question their religion.

The hypocrisy of the commenters (and I would guess a large percentage of Utah's population) is astounding.

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