I can see why some of the unemployed who have become cynical, or perhaps more
realistic, about their chances for work MIGHT in some instances have
"stopped looking". What is not clear to me is how the Utah Department
of Work Services are so omniscient in this. How exactly does the Department
know how many people have stopped looking for work. I did not see this
explained in this or similar articles that I have read on the subject.Surely we have not reached such an Orwellian state of government control and
surveillance that such complete and certain knowledge is available to anyone.
It seems to me that the most the government could know is how many individuals
are seeking work through a government department. When I was out of work I
could find nothing through "Job Services" but did find work through
other, non-governmental, channels.
The comment about businesses needing to focus on more sustainable job creation
is kind of missing what the CEO and senior levels of business are thinking about
day-to-day. You're not going to convince each drop of water that they bear
any responsibility for the flood. Each business is mostly focused on its own
business. We have, in the past, charged government with helping to
regulate business practices. We've also had the rise (and fall) of labor
unions that helped change the regulation landscape so that we could have things
like minimum wage, overtime, and other civilizing regulations so that life as a
99%-er isn't so brutal and dependant on the whims of 'the
bosses'. We don't want total restriction by government, but a total
lack of control does not serve the general welfare either.
And we have at least that many here illegally. It's time to stop playing
around. America's poor need those jobs more than foreign citizens.
Some of the no-job seekers are undoubtedly basking in the relaxation of 99 weeks
of unemployment pay for doing nothing. (Good work if you can get it!)Others are undoubtedly living in their parents' basement staring at their
fading Obama posters sulking that their degree in gender studies or African
literature has not landed a suitably high paying job for their inflated sense of
self worth. Job or education skills are only valuable if someone wants to pay
for them. The goal of business is NOT to create jobs, but to create
PROFITS. The Deseret News cut much of the reporting staff, so they obviously
reject job creation as their mission, especially when you cannot hand out pay
checks unless you make a profit..or at least cover expenses. Only the
government can ignore this basic business law with impunity.The key
to job growth in Utah is a continued pro-business climate, reduction of
excessive regulations, low taxes, and reining lawsuit abuses. Jobs would also
be better if we enforced our immigration laws and ended the underground economy
that illegal immigration creates.
There is no 99 weeks anymore. Utah is 40 weeks max. Other states receive
extended benefits determined by unemployment rates. Above 9% is 47. That's
73 max in just a few states, like California. One problem we have is
business who want to use "guest workers" in fields like IT. Where many
late 40-50 year old get paid more that cheap labor from India. It may help
business, but it's not helping the country now and in the future. Business needs to fill it's needs with American citizens, and stop
putting them on welfare by hiring cheap labor. In-sourcing hurts more than
outsourcing. Many times the American taxpayer is on the hook for schooling,
welfare, and medical care.
The state requires businesses to turn in quarterly reports with each employed
persons name, social security number, and gross amount earned that quarter. So
dws has the info they need to make claims like this. I believe them. I agree
with SLars, if we stopped illegal immigration, the 130,000 people out of work
could be employed immediately. . Most of us older folks started out in such
jobs as teenagers: service stations, grocery stores, hamburger stands,
janitors, farmhands, etc. I remember in the 70s a lot of people who lost their
jobs during the recession paid their mortgages by doing such jobs until the
To me the fact that people have STOPPED looking is scarier then not the
unemployment rate. To stop looking indicates lack of hope. That's when
things start to get bad.
I see some guess what happened to these people... but I have yet really seen a
good solid report of where these people went. I get the 99 week vacation some
make it out to be, but this issues has been going on since 2008 - far longer
than 99 weeks.So these people haven't just disappeared. Their
need to pay bills hasn't gone away. They haven't stopped eating or
needing shelter. So where did they go.Are these two income
households that have become one.Are these retirees that were working
and now are not. They simply didn't just stop needing money...
so a study on what options these people really took beyond the sometime
oversimplified sound bites would be really interesting. There are not over
100,000 Utah families basking in the windfall of 99 weeks of living on $300 a
week. People don't just stop looking... there is more to this.