If race isn't an issue, why did a recent NBC News poll show that Obama will
get 94% of the black vote and Romney will get 0%?
To those who say give us evidence that the liberal left uses racial slurs, how
about MSNBC commentators and Demo guests who called her an "Aunt Tom"
and a token Black to be tossed away when her fame is used up or the snide nasty
remarks of the Black Caucus members aboutAlan West and Mia Love. The Cain
haters have quieted but when he was running the comments were vicious. Then
MSNBC purposely edits out minority speeches at the RNC convention coverage.
Conservative are far from perfect but like the Tea Party their rhetoric is very
free from hate and racial slander. This not true of the X-rated signs and
rehtoric of the left.
Mia is one of the best people I've ever encountered, and she is certainly
far above Matheson and other career politicians. Several have asked for any
evidence that liberals are more bigoted than Conservatives. Those who hacked
Mia's website said she had "sold out" to the party of "big
business." And, go to any comment section and you will see the blatant
bigotry of those who have been employed to attack religious persons and
"destroy the Utah brand." They tone it down here only because the DN is
monitored, but on the Tribune, CNN, CBS, Huff. Post, Yahoo, etc etc, you can
post any lie, say any sort of bigoted hateful thing about a Mormon, Catholic
etc, and they often remove Conservative comments and block MOrmons trying to
explain what they really believe in a kind way. As for racism
among liberals it is prevalent on every level. One of the most powerful and most
racist groups today are the liberal activists who are attacking Mormons 24/7 in
comment sections, and pressuring our President with threats and their big money.
He has caved to their wishes. I will include some references in my
Mr. Bass: The thing that is inconceivable is that this blatant racism is by
liberals, you know, those that are supposedly so "progressive", and so
tolerant! All along I thought only republicans were racist, at least
that's what MSNBC would have us think.
With the level of vitrol, in all forums (for example: newsprint to periodicals
to on-line sites to day time as well as late night radio to evening tv), it
could end up that the real winner November 4th, will be the one who loses.
I agree with you, delasalle. For those who are, were, watching the RNC, those
people of color, be they Black or Hispanic, were there to garner votes from
those groups of people; Americans, of like race etc.. With all that's been
said about 'taking back America' and making President Obama a "one
term president", I should think that most, if not all, who realize this
would actually be concerned with whether the Republicans can 'fix'
what ails our country, AND, deal with the global issues that are affecting us
here in the U.S.
@Furry1993"Of COURSE not. They would NEVER do anything like that. They
would NEVER play "birther" games or make "birher" arguments. Oh
. . . wait ."Yes oh...wait: birtherism was started by CLINTON
supporters(and Obama made his own birther jokes but then went all victim
when Romney did)
@chinookdoctorI find your comments interesting because as a
homosexual, and being non-complaint to political correctness, I can definitively
say that the most outspoken intolerant people I've dealt with have been
"liberal lefty" and the most tolerant have been LDS Republicans (not LDS
To MVH 4:36 p.m. Aug. 29, 2012Those loving, tolerant liberals. You
do not see any of this type of behavior from conservatives.----------------------Of COURSE not. They would NEVER do anything
like that. They would NEVER play "birther" games or make
"birher" arguments. Oh . . . wait . . .
The networks have all decided that they would rather present opinion and
commentary than actually show what is happening at the convention, unless there
is a famous person speaking. Their panels of "experts" or interviews
with celebrities cut out many of the speeeches. PBS showed Mia Love's
speech, but left out many others. The TV networks are beoming more and more
irrelevant, replaced by the internet or other sources of information. And by
the way, You don't have to "earn" the right to address the
convention through years of experience. Obama was a relative unknown when he
addressed the DNC in 2004. Mia Love gave an outstanding, very dynamic speech
at the state GOP convention, and thus "earned" the right to speak at the
@regus of course you do not "believe" it is as harsh because they
are people you do not agree with. Personal attacks are wrong no matter who is
doing them and rationalizing that "but they do it too," or "they do
it worse" is really not much of a defense.
Texas Republican lawmakers discriminated against minority voters while drawing
new political boundaries, a federal court ruled Tuesday, rejecting a plan pushed
by the state's GOP leaders in a decision that likely comes too late to
affect the November elections but is set to reverberate to 2014.In
some cases, black congressional members in Texas had economic drivers such as
sporting arenas freshly carved out of their districts, though "no such
surgery" was performed on any belonging to white incumbents, according to
the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia."Anglo
district boundaries were redrawn to include particular country clubs and, in one
case, the school belonging to the incumbent's grandchildren," said U.S.
Circuit Judge Thomas Griffith, writing the 154-page opinion for the three-judge
panel.Sounds like Utah legislatures treatment our one Democrat.
UtahBlueDevil:I admit Hilary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi have been
harshly criticized by conservative pundits. But I don't believe the
personal nature of the attacks have been anywhere near the level of those
directed toward Michelle Bachmann by the liberal side. Just as one example, I
heard one panelist on Bill Maher's hatefest discussing the things he would
like to do sexually to the congresswoman. Of course, Maher and the audience
Based on the Wikipedia hack i read, I'd reckon we'll soon
discover that the comments were from a local -- i.e., someone in Saratoga
Springs, Utah.There were to many local details mentioned -- something only a local would know or care about, definetly not someone
from Michigan or Ohio could possibly be privy to.
Racism is beyond the "holier than thou conservatives", and "radical
beyond common sense liberals". Racism is ugly, and the result of ignorance,
and poor judgement. Mia is a class act!!! First woman president?
She'd have my vote!
Polls show that Romney statistically speaking has zero, yes zero, percent of the
black vote. So yeah, the Republicans have a problem, pointed out by others, and
they are proving to be thin-skinned whiners.
Old Cougar..... just answering the question that was raised.....I am kind of old
fashioned, someone raises a question, I give an answer. I forgot....
"conservatives" don't want actual answers, it is way more fun to
just make over the top claims and not worry if there are other ways of viewing
the problem. My bad.But thank you for reading and playing along.
Maybe next time you can actually comment on something that furthers the
discussion then just trying to deride someone without adding much. We will all
learn a whole heck of a lot more that way.But trying to insult...
guess that works too... have a nice day now.
2nd tryThis article is ridiculous. It is really a stretch to
include a critique on MSNBC and Fox coverage as an indication of racism. There is one big difference between Fox and MSNBC. Fox's President
and Chairman is Roger Ailes, a GOP operative and media guru. Fox also employs
past and present GOP operatives such as Karl Rove, a paid political consultant,
who is also the co-founder of 2 of the largest Super PAC groups--American
Crossroads and Crossroads GPS. Racism does exist. Beyond doubt
there are white supremacists within the Republican Party. So how do we
recognize them and guard against their influence in the political system? Do we
see this as a problem?
The day Obama took office Senator McConell and his cronies clearly stated that
their objective was to destroy Obama's presidency. And Republicans wonder
why Dems and minorities don't trust them. It is time for Republicans to
take the high road and start being more civil. Just because the other side does
it doesn't mean you have to. They can start by toning down the harsh
rhetoric on immigration. Can I please have my party back. Signed a mainstream
UtahBlueDevil,No one is asking you questions. But we're glad
you're enjoying the dialog with yourself!
Mr. McGee, Mia Love is a mayor. Barack Obama was an absentee partial term
senator/community organizer. She was every bit as well qualified as Obama to
speak...and delivered a fine speech.Ma. Chinookdoc, I have also
heard some nonsense from my fellow church members. I'm sorry to say, that
in my mind, your comments matched theirs as eveidence of a "tortured
soul." What I have heard in the convention are success stories from
successful Republican governors, from diverse backgrounds, who have worked
across the isle, with genuine principle and respect, to get good things done. I
prefer this type of respectful, but tough collaboration rather than all the
vitriolic rhetoric.Can't we be Americans who work together to
see that the best idea wins?
Cavetroll,I think we have seen over the past year how much Fox News
(a few exceptions) hates Romney. It got to the point where I had to watch CNN
last winter to get slightly less hateful coverage of Romney. Many times I
blogged about outright lies Fox spread about him. Murdock never liked Mitt and
his successors who run the network feel the same. The political
spectrum is not truly a straight line but a circle and some of the movers and
shakers at the far end of both are often shaking hands where that circle joins.
Did any of you railing against liberals actually read the article? I am pretty
sure those where not liberals throwing peanuts at the camera man , fox's
coverage nearly mirrored other networks converge and no one knows that source of
the hack but given the behavior of republicans on the floor of their own
convention it is no stretch to think it may have been one of your own.
@JMT"Absolutely predictable. The media is hyper-biased."So rather than condemn the action, you condemn the messenger. Racist
acts are reported and suddenly that is the fault of the media?
Neither of these "news" stations care about current events and their
ramifications as much as they care about skewing such events in their direction.
These stations specialize in telling people what they want to hear more than
anything else.However, it baffles me that so many people look past
MSNBC's blatant bias and harp on Fox News for their spin. It also baffles
me that MSNBC didn't show any minority RNC speeches. Why not show them and
provide a counter to those statements? Are we really at the point where events
aren't being broadcast so the station can put its own spin on things? If
that's not putting your own spin on an event, I don't know what is.
MSNBC is just as guilty of blatantly spinning things as Fox News is.I'll wait and see how Fox News treats the DNC.The likes of
MSNBC and Fox News are only helping to polarize Americans in order to further
Good reporting by the Deseret News.It is amazing how INTOLERANT the
liberals are when one any member of "their minority" dares think on
their own, or work their way off the liberal welfare plantation. At that point
they become totally unhinged and the hatred spills out.You can tell
who the liberals really fear, and it is Mia Love, and people like her.Matheson may deplore the comments or behavior of those attacking Mia Love, but
he continues to caucus and vote with them.
Regis... emphatically yes...Hilary Clinton.Shall we
start with quotes from "conservatives" about her? How about
Nancy Pelosi ( i am not a fan of hers BTW)... but in all honesty, you can't
tell me you haven't very harsh criticism of her. Really?I
wish I could cut and paste some examples here... but I am sure they would be
blocked by the sensors. Will this victimized republicanism ever stop.... I
thought the liberals were the party of victims... but recently the republicans
have taken it to new levels.Next question please.
I watch C-SPAN for complete coverage of the RNC. No one is cut, not even the
band filling in with nice jazz during the inevitable dead spots. I also accept
that commercial stations need to cover Isaac (because it is an important story)
as well as the convention, so some speeches will get cut. There are many
minority Republicans in local-level politics, and I applaud the fact that
several of them were given opportunities to speak at their party's
convention. What I find most telling is not that some of the minority speeches
were cut by Fox, but that EVERY minority speech was cut by MSNBC. There is an
obvious agenda there.
xscribe:Mia Love as Exhibit A.Clarence Thomas as Exhibit
B.Or, in terms of conservative women (also not looked upon kindly by
the left) Michelle Bachmann. Can you name ANY liberal woman who has been so
publicly and gleefully denounced in the most hateful ways as has Congresswoman
and so it continues..."I agree that racist attitudes and
comments are far more likely from the liberal/left than the conservative/right.
For true liberals, any conservative-leaning black, hispanic or other racial
minority is a traitor to the cause, and therefore worthy of denunciation in the
most vindictive terms."Regis... based on what? Where the heck
does this analysis come from? This "from the depths of Utah" analysis
amazes me. Based on what experiences do we make such a broad and wide sweeping
statement? The idea that you are making that the republican party is the party
of diversity, while the "liberals" reject anyone who doesn't act
their race is completely off base. Please provide some basis for these
comments.RBB - Mia Love doesn't have anyone scared. Are you
saying it was liberals that infiltrated the RNC that were throwing peanuts to
the CNN employee? Really? Jack... you know were talking about Mia
Love right... this has absolutely nothing to do with Planned Parenthood or the
PBS funding.... I guess off topic rule doesn't count if your are a
conservative commenter. Good grief - liberals are to blame for
what went wrong the RNC convention. Next.
I think Mia Love is the perfect symbol of the GOP convention. She is another
African American woman who can't vote in Florida.
All I know is that Mia Love looked and sounded like a beautiful, intelligent
woman in her speech. I'm sorry it wasn't broadcast; I had to search to
find it, but it was well worth the effort.On another note, as
someone whose extended family is pretty evenly split between stauch republicans
and ardent democrats, I think I can safely say that no one political party (or
party members) has a stranglehold on racism or the lack of it.
Before we all jump to calling it racism, who actually on this board believes
anybody outside of Utah knows who Mia Love is and more importantly cares about
her. The reason networks would cut away is she is a no-name mayor of a small
town in Utah that had an allotted two minutes at the RNC. The ONLY reason she
is getting any airtime in the first place is exactly because of the fact that
she is black. To suggest that MSNBC is racist because they didn't show her
speech is to inject race right back into a discussion that we are complaining
about because it includes race. It boggles my mind that people don't see
how hypocritical and ironic they are being in their own complaints about racism.
I must rise to correct a misrepresentation of position. The Republicans was to
remove public funding from PBS and while we are at it, Planned Parenthood.
These two organizations have already stated that they can operate without
federal funding, so why are the taxpayers subsidizing them? This is FAR
different than saying the Republicans want to "do away" with the
organizations. Please get your facts straight when maligning.Thanks
Mia Love has the Democrats scared.
I like how this article singles out MSNBC for not airing these speeches when Fox
News, the flagship of conservative news didn't see fit to air the speeches
either. If Mia was such a rising star in the Repoublican party, shouldn't
Fox air her speech? They replaced it with coverage about the hurricane.
Obviously Fox doesn't think too highly of her.
Poor Happy Valley, I never hear the "N" word from people around me. I
thought Mia Love was a mayor in Utah, not from Florida. Are you a leftist or a
rightest? What do you mean "To bad the Mit and Mia Hate PBS"? Should
you have used better spelling and grammar to say something? I have not figured
out what you were trying to say. It's a fact that even the NY Times has
admitted to - the main stream media has an opinion and they share it.
Dear -- JMTSpringville, UTWho said "I have seen
racism on many occassions. Most occassions come from the "left" ....djcStansbury Park, UtI really would like to know why
the "nut throwing" incident is "alleged" when it was supposedly
mentioned in a mystery convention news release that I could not find on the
convention website to confirm if it really existed. MVHFarmington, UTThose loving, tolerant liberals. You do not see any of
this type of behavior from conservatives.regisSalt Lake City,
UTI agree that racist attitudes and comments are far more likely from the
liberal/left than the conservative/right.sanpacoSandy, UTThe message is clear, its not OK to be black unless you are also a
Democrat.And to all the rest of the Right-wing Republicans who wish
to chime in but can not read or are catatonically in denial....================ “GOP attendee ejected for throwing nuts at
African American CNN camera woman + saying ‘This is how we feed
animals.’”It was a GOP attendee [making them
categorically a Republican]BTW - President Obama's party
would be the least likely to be racist.
People attack what they fear. Mia Love has caught the eyes and attention of
many people and if she was a black Democrat, she would be the worlds darling.
But how dare she be a black Republican and to add insult to injury a Mormon
also. I think that she is amazing and exciting and hope that she will win the
election there in Utah. Good luck Mia.
@xscribeHere is at least one example: Harry Belefonte called Collin
Powell 'a house slave' when he was in the Bush Administration. His
words exactly. How many racial slurs have we heard against Clarence Thomas over
the years? MANY!@Bill McGeeActually, it wasn't
just Mia Love's comments that they cut away from. Ted Cruz and Arthur
Davis as well. MSNBC has already admitted that they are a network for
Progressives. Nobody should be surprised that they manipulate the news. They
were dead last in the ratings last night.
libs are so toleratnt, as long as you agree with them. the party is over gang.
your hero will be back in chicago passing out handbills in January. he has left
the US in a mess, but finally there is someone that can actually clean up his
mess and not blame him or w. just the sound of that feels good. o to go and
freedowm to return. can't come quick enough.
Charging that MSNBC may have cut away from Mia Love as a race-related issue is
just irresponsible journalism. Love is a first-term mayor of a tiny suburb
community and has no business being on any national political stage. She has
done nothing to earn the right to speak at a forum like that. Unfortunately, she
is clearly being used by the RNC to to make a show of being inclusive to
demographics that their policies consistently disenfranchise. This is all about
show over substance, and has nothing to do with race - at least not on the part
of networks like MSNBC.
The most racist comments I have heard have come from members of my own church,
the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, sadly, many of these confused
and tortured souls have made statements showing their hatred in the comments
section of this website. Most of those folks were espousing ultra-conservative
rhetoric, similar to what we are hearing from the RNC and the Romney campaign.
As a minority, a woman, and a "liberal lefty" I can definitively say
that the most outspoken racist people I've dealt with have been Republican
racists. Racism is an illness that knows no political boundary, and if elected,
I think Romney and his cronies will launch us into race riots and bigotry on a
national scale like none we've seen since Jim Crow ended. The comments
from "regis" show me that s/he is neither minority, nor knows many
minorities well, and in fact sees people of color as one monolithic group.
That's why s/he is only able to see criticism of conservative minorities.
Sad for racists, they are trapped in an attitude of hatred toward everyone,
The message is clear, its not OK to be black unless you are also a Democrat.
To JMT and Regis: Please provide your evidence~
I agree that racist attitudes and comments are far more likely from the
liberal/left than the conservative/right. For true liberals, any
conservative-leaning black, hispanic or other racial minority is a traitor to
the cause, and therefore worthy of denunciation in the most vindictive terms.
Those loving, tolerant liberals. You do not see any of this type of behavior
I deplore all the racial charged incidents and wish there were none. I really would like to know why the "nut throwing" incident is
"alleged" when it was supposedly mentioned in a mystery convention news
release that I could not find on the convention website to confirm if it really
existed. I guess the story should read that an alleged news
release from the party apologized for an alleged nut throwing incident at the
alleged GOP convention. The fact that Fox also ignore some of the
speeches would seem to indicate a). It wasn't an issue of left/right, but
rather importance of storm coverage or b). Fox and the others didn't want
to show the minority speechs in question to their core Republican/Democrat
viewers or c). all of this is sad and shouldn't be happening and reporting
about it should be fair and unbiased. If one event is alleged, than all events
should be alleged. If one network is biased, then all networks are equally
Absolutely predictable. The media is hyper-biased. As for the Wikipage incident,
to be expected from the same ideology that gave us so many ugly incidents during
the "occupy Wallstreet" movement. I have seen racism on many
occassions. Most occassions come from the "left" relative to expected
roles and views held by minorities. All African-Americans are expected to hold
one view and if they don't...[insert racially motivated comment here.]
I've seen this for years and frankly I am getting sick and tired of it.How many times have Americans been called racist because they want a
balanced budget; don't want Egypt to fall; don't want socialized
medicine; don't think the auto industry should be bailed out; stimulus
didn't work; Race To The Top would fail; Common Core is a bad idea; etc,
etc, etcFace it, the greatest example of racism and the race card
comes from the left, by far! It's as though they never read the Martin
Luther King "I have a dream" speech.
I guess I was raised by good parents and have a conscience. I just don't
understand why we can't just see each other as Americans. Who
cares if Mia Love is black? Who cares if a camera operator is black? Why does
it matter? Those who do care need to grow up a little and start seeing the
phrase "All men are created equal" as meaning exactly what it says. Racism is just disgusting.
It's interesting to me that when there are confirmed incidents of blatant
racism such as this, it's labeled and reported by the main stream media as
some ambiguous isolated incident...as though the attacks are separate and apart
from the National trend. Instead of reporting it as a racist
incident so that we can understand the context of the attack and help frame the
underlying narrative that's developing around the nation, the critical
details are strategically removed so we're left in the dark about this
endemic problem. Racism is spreading.
Racially charged incidents at a republican convention. That's