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New policy celebrated by students with a dream

Published: Wednesday, Aug. 15 2012 9:05 p.m. MDT

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Sqweebie
Salt Lake City, UT

so they if they are "approved" to work here in the US of A then if they are passed over for a job for whatever reason they can scream discrimination but if a US citizen is passed over for a job that is given to a person who has a work visa and less skills the US citizen can't sue on the grounds of discrimination. The US of A is becoming very ANTI-american.

Enough of our own citizens are out of work and so those seeking to work in this country who are here on a work visa shouldn't be the ones given the few jobs that are availible. It's time that this country's leaders woke up and smelled the coffee and employers hire those who were born here. Stop catering to those who's only language is spanish and making it a requirement for a person seeking work to HAVE to speak it.

Afterglow Fanissimo
Salt Lake City, Utah

This is terrific! It's like Ellis Island Part Deux! Congratulations, you guys! Live up to your bright potential!

wigglwagon
Mariion, Va

The document mills are running 24-7. He made the offer only good for 2 years so they would be forced to take whatever slight risk might be involved in registering to vote. Both Obama and the illegals know that the game is up if he loses in November.

Every Deferred Action that is granted should be accompanied by the permanent deportation of the illegal alien parents who caused this problem.

jim l
West Jordan, UT

amnesty comes in many forms. Why should we have to pay for their free health care, food education etc.. They are here illegally.

Stephen Kent Ehat
Lindon, UT

Without commenting one way or the other about the wisdom of using an executive order by which (as this article states) President Obama "requested" this deferment policy, and without commenting on whether the policy itself, in some form, should have been passed by the legislative branch of government and passed on to the president for signature into law with provisions approved by the people, through their representatives, I would note just this one small point (quote):

"I will be able to stay in this country if I want, because I was thinking of going back to Mexico or going to some European country or Australia because I would have had to go somewhere if I can't work here," Arteaga said. "That is the final piece of everything I ever needed, just being able to work."

(End quote.)

Sounds to me like the self-deportation idea Mr. Romney was talking about (which may or may not be used to beat him over the head at some point in the next couple of months).

May the dreams of these young people be realized. And may the dreams of all those who seek to come to this country properly be realized.

ute alumni
Tengoku, UT

more voters for the libs. what a country. the community organizer and chief should be proud.

JP
Chandler, AZ

These kids were brought here when they were children. We've already paid for their public education, health care, whatever, to get them to the point where they can start contributing to the system. Strictly from an economic standpoint, why in the world would we want them to leave now? They're part of the generation that will be paying for your social security.

J-TX
Allen, TX

I love the Latino people.

That said, I can't help thinking that we are bending over backwards to give preferred status to people who are here illegally. I see that preferred status carrying over to the workplace, and to college scholarships and other aid, giving them an unfair advantage over my kids who had the 'misfortune' of being born here legally, and white.

I myself as a middle-aged white male have experienced reverse discrimination by PC people with a (illegal) quota to fill. I can imagine it will only be worse for my kids.

Oh, one last thing: 1.7 Million are eligible? I think every credible source puts the number at between 12 and 16 million.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The individuals applying for this program are mostly innocent and deserving victims brought here illegally by their parents. The problems were not their doing, but that of their parents.

Although most of those in the story may well qualify under the rules of the program, many more will apply using forged documents. History has shown that the demand for fake IDs is easily filled, and a new stack of stuff to qualify for this program will be no problem at all for the forgers.

Enforcement at the border is the necessary first step to preserve the rule of law, not easily scammed incremental amnesty schemes.

Legal immigrants have always been welcome in our country, but illegal immigration is still a crime that should be punished.

Mr. Bean
Salt Lake City, UT

What a good idea... now, when the two year reprieve is over, the government will have the names and addresses of the illegals to make it infinitely easier to round them up for deportation. Cudos, Obama and Napolitano. And all the while I thought you were pro-illegal immigration.

ulvegaard
Medical Lake, Washington

It would be hypocritical for those of us with European ancestry to deny the opportunities of this country to newer generations of would-be immigrants.

As much as we love visitors to our home, we prefer that they come to the front door and knock, and not sneak in through a back window. We need to be allowed to shake hands with those who knock and call the police on those who sneak in and not be asked to feed and entertain them.

The issue seems complicated and I agree with the posting that suggested the stupidity in kicking some of these out now that they already gone through our system and are on the verge of becoming contributing citizens. But we really need to discourage the illegal entry in the first place. Not rewarding it would be a great start.

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

This plan is trying to provide a way for kids who were brought here by their parents and have lived here as basically US citizens for their whole lives a chance to actually become legal US citizens and a reasonable cost. Again, most of these were and are kids, not the parents of those kids that many of you so obviously dispise. The audaciousness of those who were "lucky enough" to be born in this county - oh, by the way, remember the Natives? - is mindboggling. How anyone with the slightest amount of compassion could say, Okay, you were brought here by your parents when you were very young, or maybe you were born here by illegal parents, now you are 16, too bad, you must leave, tells a great deal about the right-wing contingent in this country. If this is how Mitt thinks, that would be a reason for me not to vote for him.

Alfred
Salt Lake City, UT

Obama has made himself king. And, as a by-product he has garnered millions of Hispanic votes to assure his reappointment as King-in-Chief. (I'm sure he has contemplated how he might do away with elections so he can be King-for-Life.)

There are federal laws on the books about illegal immigration. These laws were duly passed by Congress and signed into law by the then president. Obama has thumbed his nose at these laws, contrary to the oath of office that he took when he entered the White House, wherein he swore to protect the Constitution and uphold the laws of the land.

Furthermore, preferential treatment of these people is unconstitutional under the 'Equal Protection' clause. This amnesty program for only those 15 to 31 year-old is preferential treatment. As was the so-called Dream Act.

We have 15 million unemployed American citizens looking for work and drawing billions in unemployment checks. We don't need illegal immigrants, regardless of how they got here, taking jobs badly needed by our own citizens. We don't need amnesty programs. We don't need Dream Acts... What we do need is someone to be impeached.

Hammi
Huntington Beach, CA

It's interesting how many here were the ones screaming that they "get legal or get out" and now that they are getting somewhat legal, the only way they can, the same people are screaming "Stop it!!!" I don't think you will ever be happy for another. You don't want anyone to experience relief nor do you ever try to see any other persons point of view. It creates a very discouraging view of the world, and in this case, of some in the Church. Before you add the "has nothing to do with Church" comments, it has everything to do with your faith.

Beverly
Eden, UT

The level of blatant racism demonstrated in many of these comments is disappointing and shameful. Kids, through no fault of their own, where being hurt. Think this through and be reasonable. Take a close look at the number of Hispanic names in those killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Many of these young people are filling the American dream and are much more in line with American values than those attempting to block their ability to become U.S. citizens. Hard work and commitment to family are strongly held Hispanic values that fit will in our growing society.

vdubbin'
Ogden, UT

This is simply sickening. Once again, our POTUS has decided that spitting in the face of the people who have died defending this Great Nation is a small price to pay for what will amount to a guaranteed win in November. And how can he claim that ROmney sends jobs overseas when he is giving the same jobs to people in America who will send nearly all that they make south of the border. I've seen it happen. 10 in a single family home means very few bills, and 75% of the paycheck leaves the country never to return...

Sqweebie
Salt Lake City, UT

my question is "How is Daisy Magadeno able to have a job if she's here illeglly? Why would she have paycheck stubs?

Mr. Bean
Salt Lake City, UT

@Sqweebie

My sense is, there are several ways including getting a fake Social Security number and other documents which the DNews has reported has happened.

Many wonder how a certain unnamed person (changed to hopefully satisfy the DNews monitor) got his SS number. It has been reported that his number starts with a number for the state of Connecticut, a state he had never been in at the time.

Another way is for an employer to unlawfully hire. But, on the other hand, if a employer had less than 30 employees the employer is not required to use E-Verify on new hires.

So, go figure.

saikeong
Orem, u

We have fought for what is true and lives have been sacrificed for this freedom, not to have politics enter to win reelection points, This is a classic BO move

prelax
Murray, UT

There are programs available to help these adults get straight with the law at 18. Sadly, they ignore it and demand society rewards them instead.

If Obama believes these adults were wronged, he has to believe that their parents broke the law and deport them. Truth of the matter is Obama knows amnesty for 11.5 million would never pass, so he is piecemealing amnesty by executive order for a group at a time.

He needs the Hispanic votes, and will harm Americans to get it. 8.3% unemployment, and he brings 3,5 million here each year on legal visas and green cards. Now he is adding to the mix with 2 million more. Some jobs program.

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