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Published: Thursday, Aug. 9 2012 6:39 p.m. MDT

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ute alumni
Tengoku, UT

obama has NOTHING to talk about but negative things....so much for mr. hope and change. he is a disaster

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

@ ute alumni

I agree. It will be a long and nasty fall until the election, I'm afraid, with the current administration having nothing on which to run a campaign except negative commentts about the "other guy" and his campaign. After 4 years you'd think that Obama would have something to brag about, but alas, tis not so. Maybe that's because he spent about two and a half years blaming George Bush for everything that was wrong and didn't fix much, except to spend us into bankruptcy. We're no better off economically after the "fix" than before, in fact we're worse off because we incurred so much debt for "shovel-ready jobs" that really weren't ready. And the liberal press likes this guy.....go figure!! Only someone like him that insisted on Obamacare, passed without ever reading it, would dare place perceived women's interests (his view of them) above freedom of religion. Anti-religious socialism we DON'T NEED, in any form or fashion!!

trekker
Salt Lake, UT

I am really worried for Obama. If He gets re-elected think of the mess he is going to inherit!

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

War on Religion?

Are you kidding?

You think that because someone catches you violating the constitution, and tells you to knock it off, that you're being oppressed?

Are your churches being bulldozed? Are you being prevented from attending or financially supporting the church of your choice?

When you call for bans on abortion, even when the woman is a rape victim, or the pregnancy is life-threatening, and you want to deny women access to the means to control how many children they have, it can fairly be said that you are in fact hostile to women.

When your legislators start talking about making it illegal to go to church, and athiests are more easily elected to public office than Baptists, then you can feel persecuted. Until then, quit whining.

Chris from Rose Park
PROVO, UT

trekker

That's the funniest comment I've read in awhile. Good wit.

Allen#2
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Wake up citizens of Utah. STOP criticizing everything Pres. Obama has done. Tell your Republican friends to work WITH President Obama instead of "stonewalling" everything he proposes.

I trust the Federal Government more than I trust Big Business. How would senior citizens and children of deceased parents survive without Social Security (that is hated by almost everyone in Utah...until they or a family member receive Social Security benefits?).

By contrast, think of all the people who have lost their jobs because Big Business has "offshored" their jobs.

Furry1993
Clearfield, UT

To Blue 11:58 p.m. Aug. 9, 2012

Exactly right. Well said.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Blue,
the constitution guarantees the free expression of religion. The mandate that religious employers provide birth control coverage contrary to their convictions is contrary to the constitutionally protected right to freedom of expression. BO and his HHS ARE hostile to religion.

Romney has not called for the abortion bans you mention. Nor has he called for bans on contraceptives as you infer. When he does, then you can feel persecuted. until then, quit whining. The real hostility to women has been the damage to economy and mountains of debt BO has accumulated, more the any other president in history.

Too bad you have been snookered by the BO campaign and MSNBC that you believe the misinformation being spread by the BO camp.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

@Blue
You said, "When you call for bans on abortion, even when the woman is a rape victim, or the pregnancy is life-threatening, and you want to deny women access to the means to control how many children they have, it can fairly be said that you are in fact hostile to women."

Where is your source on this statement? Who called for bans on abortion in cases of rape, incest, life threatening?

You are out of touch of what is being discussed and jumped to a different topic. A topic that most religions agree that a woman can choose for herself in cases of rape, incest, and when it is life threatening.

Most churches also teach that a woman has a choice when choosing to have sex. But, because a man and woman choose to have unprotected sex, and create a new life. They do not have the right to kill an innoncent human being because of the choice they made. If it is life threatening to the mother then that is something that she would have to decide with her doctor and according to her faith.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

@Blue

Tell me where atheists meeting houses have been bulldozed? Tell me where atheists constitution rights have been violated?

And your ridiculous comment about athiests not easily being elected to office....really?! Maybe they need to look at their platform that they run on. When the only focus is to force everyone to lose their freedom of exercising and practicing their religion, and removing God from everything....Who would want to vote for you?

Why don't you come out with something positive that you will do for the country. Like reduce taxes, cut the national debt, work with people of faith and those without faith instead of ram rodding your beliefs down everyones throat....

The fact is, atheists like to use the "victim minority" mentality that it's not fair that you have to see a cross. I don't believe in the cross and yet I'm not offended by seeing it. I don't agree with homosexuals, but, I'm not offended when they're around me. I don't agree with liberals and many democrats, yet I can still be friends with them....you need to embrace diversity:)

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

ute alumni said: "obama has NOTHING to talk about but negative things....so much for mr. hope and change. he is a disaster"

Please point to one ad in which mit does otherwise?
Do mit's ads tell America what he plans to do?

Obama has had plenty of successes which have been listed for your reading, but I've never seen more than 2 sentence attack ads from you, so I wouldn't expect an honest discussion.

DonP
Sainte Genevieve, MO

Dear Blue: LDS do not need to be told what a war on religion looks like. We know it all too well. Sure it's not Missouri in the mid-1830s, or Nauvoo in the mid 1840s, but the signs are there. We hear some big city mayors telling a restaurant chain they are not welcome because of the religious beliefs of its CEO. The new healthcare law requires church run institutions to provide services that violate their beliefs. We see our churches vandalized and burned. Sure for the most part, it is all very civil and proper now, but it won't be that way very long. If we waited until an another "extermination order" to fight back it would be too late. My father used to tell me the best defense is a good offense. As Christians and as LDS we need to stand up for our beliefs.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Liberal Ted said: Where is your source on this statement? Who called for bans on abortion in cases of rape, incest, life threatening?

2 seconds after copying your very question and pasteing it into google...

Personhood Ohio, a state affiliate of Denver-based Personhood USA, would like to put a so-called “personhood” amendment on the ballot this fall:
The amendment defines life as beginning at conception and would ban all forms of abortion, including in cases of rape and incest. As originally written, it would also ban in vitro fertilization and certain birth control methods. Personhood Ohio has modified the proposed language so that it would exempt IVF and “genuine contraception,” whatever that means.

There were pages of them, (this one was especially restrictive) but that would mean looking yourself before accusing others of being out of touch.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

So the government should stay out of people's bedrooms but we should be forced to pay for what happens in bedrooms? Wonderful liberal "logic" on display!

Edd_Doerr
Silver Spring, MD

The war on women is real and Romney is part of it. His slam at Obama is totally absurd. Obama is strong for religious freedom, as he shows by favoring freedom of religion and conscience for women on reproductive matters and by opposing Republican drives to force all taxpayers to support religious schools through school vouchers. Obama is on the side of religious freedom; Romney is not. -- Edd Doerr, President, Americans for Religious Liberty

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

The left's war on religion started in Waco,Texas when Janet Reno ordered the federal government to send tanks to kill women and children of a non-government approved religion! Is your religion government approved?

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

@ Blue

War on Women??? Are you kidding? That makes a nice little sound bite, doesn't it? But not being willing to force women to go contrary to their religious beliefs is a war on women?

Give me a break. Seriously.....

Seems like it's the Obama camp that is whinning.

PennStater
USA, PA

Sandra Fluke from Georgetown made a fool out of herself when she addressed Congress. First of all, contraceptives are not expensive. Second, I do not want to pay for someone else's irresponsible behavior. If you don't want to be pregnant, don't have sex. You don't need contraceptives, you need self-control and self-respect.

I also have a problem with classifying contraceptives as a "healthcare" need. Sure, there are some women that need birth control for other reasons and I'm okay with that. The type of irresponsible sex Fluke promotes is not a health need, it is recreation. If she is expecting the government to pay for prevention of possible consequences from a recreational activity, the government might as well pay for football pads, hikers shoes, bike helmets, etc to prevent injuries.

Bottom line is that I don't want to pay for something that causes moral decay in our country. I worked with many people with sexual addictions. Each of them deeply regrets where they are and wishes they could take back previous mistakes. I feel sorry for each of them and see how that type of lifestyle is very difficult to turn around.

Springvillepoet
Springville, UT

War on Religion?

How will the faithful handle it all with only an estimated 350,000 Christian congregations (and thousands being started each year) in the U.S.?

How will the faithful survive with only 59 million weekly worshipers?

How will the religious survive with only an estimate 219 different denominations in the U.S.?

How will the religious fight back with an estimated 145,691,446 members in the top 25 religions?

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How many church houses do you see in every town? How many Sunday Worship programs are on either major networks or on their own networks each week?

War on Religion? When it was just the Catholic church, they burned people at the stake. What do atheists do? They verbally argue with you.

War on religion? In the very accurate words of John Stuart, you are mistaking a war on religion with not getting everything you want.

You still get to openly express your religious view, but in this nation, you have to tolerate the fact opposing views are also allowed. Real life is not Testimony meeting.

J-TX
Allen, TX

Heretic;

"Personhood USA"? Really? Whoever heard of them? I can Google and come up with a fringe group that espouses any - and I mean ANY - position, too.

But the inference was that Romney and the Republicans support a position to "ban all forms of abortion, including in cases of rape and incest", and you know it.

To make this inference in not only disingenuous. It is an outright lie.
Careful slinging that mud, you'll get some on you....

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