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Published: Thursday, Aug. 9 2012 1:26 p.m. MDT

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NeilT
Clearfield, UT

Being gay doesn't automatically equate to being a pedophile. I don't believe there is a connection between sexual orientation and being a danger to minor children. I don't believe it is fair to label all gay people as sexual deviants. One can be marrried with children and be a sexual deviant. Whch is more unacceptable, being gay or being straight and unfaithful to a spouse, viewing child pornography, and molesting children. There is a real double standard here.

BrentBot
Salt Lake City, UT

According to Father Benedict Broeschel of Westchester, New York, 90 percent of the abuse of children by Catholic priests was done by homosexual priests. Homosexual priests represent 10 percent of Catholic priests. This means that homosexual priests abused children 81 times as frequently as heterosexual priests.

Must we repeat the tragedy of the Catholic priest scandal with the Boy Scouts? In doing so, we'll decimate the Boy Scouts of America which has stood alone in inculcating good character traits in our young men.

blueskyco
Home Town, CO

If the rules of Youth Protection are followed, and there is always two deep leadership and parental involvement, I can't think of a scenario that would put a scout at risk - regardless of a leader's sexual orientation. That is why those safety measures are put in place to begin with, to protect the scouts. It would be highly inappropriate for scout leaders of any inkling to talk about their romantic lives, so again with multiple leaders present I really doubt that scouts would be negatively affected by having a gay scout leader.

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

@Duckhunter: Oh, and straight males are not in the least sexually deviant. Climb out from under that rock!

ddthom
NORTH SALT LAKE, UT

This article is a double edged sword. One side states that these leaders support and encourage not holding true to the values of the Boy Scouts. The other side I see is men who are put into leadership positions think they have it in their job description to tell us how to live our lives, what is best for us, what is right and what is wrong. How can we let these people dictate how this organization should run. If we let them tell this organization how to run, where will it end.... We are losing control of our own lives each day.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
"Oh, and straight males are not in the least sexually deviant."

Men who do not live the Boy Scout oath which includes being "morally straight" aren't permitted in that organization. And that, be definition in the eyes of the BSA, excludes any man that is living with someone who isn't his wife.

The fact that some straight males stray from the norm is moot as it applies to the BSA. Those who do not comply with their standards need not apply.

Cinci Man
FT MITCHELL, KY

I would not want straight men taking my daughter on a campout and I wouldn't want gay men taking my son on one. I also would not want straight women taking my son on a campout nor gay women taking my daughter on one. Avoiding the temptations is a good thing. The opportunities for our children to be unprotected are increased in these scenarios. It doesn't mean it WILL happen. It is just more likely that it CAN happen.

DanO
Mission Viejo, CA

Hmmmm.. so I guess there shouldn't be Den Mothers in Cub Scouts anymore according to Cinci Man.

Cinci Man
FT MITCHELL, KY

DanO
Since when do Den Mothers take cubs on campouts?

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

to all the posters that purposely post known false claim that gay people are more likely to victimize children and youth, you do realize that using well known lies do nothing to make your position stronger.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

ADULT Americans have the right to be and do anything they please so long as they do not infringe on the rights and freedoms of others.

CHILDREN are slaves to their adult masters. The children’s masters have the right to teach and control their children in the manner of their beliefs.

The underlying purpose of the Boy Scouts is the teach, influence, instill and indoctrinate children in the belief system of the religious beliefs about morality and character. When a person places his/her child in to an organization like the Boy Scouts, the person assumes the leaders will carry out the underlying purpose. If the leader is someone who does not subscribe to the religious belief, that leader should be excluded from contact with the child.

Because of the malleable condition of children’s minds and the disapproval of the Gay lifestyle by most of society, Gay leaders, teacher, parents should be prohibited from contact with children

worf
Mcallen, TX

atl134,

Sorry you can't find a difference.

Maybe we should ban mid-east oil, because they execute gays.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@worf
"Sorry you can't find a difference."

I did find one, only one of those two (Bishop or Scoutmaster) are in a position where people who have committed sexual sin are expected to confess such sins to them.

"Maybe we should ban mid-east oil, because they execute gays."

That has nothing to do with people supervising children... what'd you do, go to a Chick-fil-A thread and get lost?

Really???
Kearns, UT

"The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes."

--UC Davis, Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

A voice of Reason
Salt Lake City, UT

NeilT,

People abuse labels and so I can very easily see why you don't want 'gays labeled as sexual deviants'. But it is only logical to attribute the label when in order to reproduce, the Homosapien must engage in heterosexual intercourse- that those who choose to abdicate from the human course of reproduction and strictly engage in an arbitrary and 'pleasure-only' engagement- that the very act that defines 'gays' is very literally an act of deviation from the human design.

Some of us say "deviant" and don't automatically assign a biased opinion of them as a sexual predator. However, it is only rational, instinctive, and appropriate that in order to protect children- parents choose not to allow an adult who deviates from the human telos to raise children.

Abusing the label would be inappropriately assigning it or inappropriately treating someone because of it. I have neither suggested nor promoted either. Choosing to participate in heterosexual engagements is an act of consigning the label to one's self, not the other way around.

We all have a right to choose for ourselves. The problem is that gays are interfering with the organizations of other men (government, society, etc).

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: atl134 Salt Lake City, UT

"This entire discussion is moot because Gays do not qualify to be boy scout leaders. Parents want their young boys to be able to follow the examples set by their leaders and that decision has already been made.

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