Comments about ‘No more Mr. Nice Mormon? LDS scholars speak on reaction to Bloomberg story’

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Published: Friday, July 27 2012 2:39 p.m. MDT

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ute alumni
Tengoku, UT

this isn't the 1800s. fight fire with fire and let the chips fall where they may.

Midwest Mom
Soldiers Grove, WI

I didn't see the Church's response as anything but educational; for people who don't know Church policy, and those who should know better. Not sure what this article is about, except for the self-absorbed attitude of people who live in "the bubble." British Prime Minister David Cameron was right, Utah is in "the middle of nowhere." Church headquarters may be important to those of us who are members, but a lot of people still don't know what a Mormon is. Instead of obsessing about what people are saying about "us," members would do better to focus on living the teachings of Jesus and thinking about others.

Claudio
Springville, Ut

Explain to me how this picture has any relation to the story?

InspectorC
Wasatch Front, UT

RE: Claudio @ 7:33 pm---

Read the caption under the photo, and read the opening few paragraphs of the article.

RE-read both... until you "see" the connection!

IOW: Comedian Jon Stewart (as depicted in the photo) coined the phrase "No more Mr. Nice Mormon".... Which TIES IN (as you wondered in your post) to the basic theme of THIS article, ala: the LDS Church took a much more "assertive" stance in responding to the Bloomberg cover art and schlocky article.

InspectorC
Wasatch Front, UT

RE: Claudio @ 7:33 pm---

Read the caption under the photo, and read the opening few paragraphs of the article.

RE-read both... until you "see" the connection!

IOW: Comedian Jon Stewart (as depicted in the photo) coined the phrase "No more Mr. Nice Mormon".... Which TIES IN (as you wondered in your post) to the basic theme of THIS article, ala: the LDS Church took a much more "assertive" stance in responding to the Bloomberg cover art and schlocky article.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Another example of why I've abandoned organised religion.

cambodia girl
Phnom Penh, Cambodia

As a member of the LDS church, I'm grateful and proud to be a part of a church that uses wisdom with it's investments, plans for future expenses (or emergencies), is not in debt to anyone, utilizes the talents of it's people, donates millions to humanitarian aid, takes care of it's own, teaches it's members to be provident in their living, expects it's member to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ to love one another and allows me my agency to participate or not. It's marvelous!

SammyB
Provo, UT

The Church gave a measured response, not nasty or impatient. It is rare that the media crosses the line as drastically as Bloomberg. Sometimes a straightforward response is best.

cpafred
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

The Church's response to the Businessweek story was anything but strong. The word feckless comes to mind. No facts were disputed, no correcting information was provided and the thrust of the story (that the Church is very wealthy) was not rebutted.

By responding that the article did not tell the whole story without further dispute or elaboration essentially confirms that the part of the story covered by the article is accurate.

DVD
Taylorsville, 00

When you get a verbal rebuke from the church that responded so calmly to "The Book of Mormon", the play, you ought to realize that any other organization so targeted by that kind of 'news piece' would probably have you in a court case?

And as stated before in 'offending millions of Mormons', are we really back to the day when targeting segments of the population is now ok in newsprint? Who's next?

And I was sad to read what the connection between the picture and the headline really was. My initial thought was 'Jon Stewart and Colbert" are now LDS scholars? Sweet!

DonO
Draper, UT

The article was incomplete but the cover was beyond offensive. Finances are fair game but the Church needs to respond strongly to blatant irreverence and disrespect.Had it not been for the cover I believe the "official" response would have been more measured.

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

I was very pleased to see this response. While turning the other cheek is good advise, Christ didn't say what to do after they strike you more than twice. We have turned the other cheek until we are out of cheeks.

There was a group of people pretending to be interested in joining the LDS church. They sought out the missionaries, acted interested in our faith and attempted to destroy the faith of our young full time missionaries.

Let's just say that when we learned what was going on and older, far more experienced and knowledgeable members accompanied the elders to these "investigators", the pretenders received an experience they will never forget, nor shall they repeat this deceit.

Dennis
Harwich, MA

The "Media" is only crossing the line because the "Church" responds as such.
When neither of the parties are willing to tell the whole truth and are back peddling to save face it puts critics on the offensive and stalwarts on the defense. And nothing gets accomplished. The entire charade looks disingenuous.

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

"Let's just say that when we learned what was going on and older, far more experienced and knowledgeable members accompanied the elders to these "investigators", the pretenders received an experience they will never forget, nor shall they repeat this deceit."

Good heavens! What did you do, Rock? It sure sounds like you older, more experianced and knowledgeable members strong armed them. It sounds like the mob. Do you mean it to sound that way? Or, heaven forbid, did you actually do that? I would have thought a responsible organization would have just told its people not to go back, or had the older members talk to these people with love and compassion and try to show them the Christ's love. But you guys intimidated them some way? And you brag about it?

Even more so, your church sends out people to convert people, and your missionaries aren't ready for criticism about your religion, and don't know how to handle it?

Oatmeal
Woods Cross, UT

The comparison between "The Book of Mormon" musical and a news article is telling. One is a parody, not meant to be taken seriously, the other is a allegedly professional NEWS article meant to be as truthful as possible. Church leaders and PR held Bloomberg to a higher level of accountability than they did a silly and childish stage production. I do not perceive a shift in practice or policy.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Good on the Church for refusing to be a passive punching bag.

Of course, the Church is not the real target for the defamation, slurs and innuendo. The real target is Mitt Romney, and the liberals seek to destroy him by denigrating his religion.

I am not LDS, but I am as offended and outraged as any member would be from this baseless and calculated disinformation campaign.

A voice of Reason
Salt Lake City, UT

Let the comedians laugh.

The publication misled people about the church, sacred events, and doctrine; it distorted reality. Only someone who's already made up their mind will see attempts to redress libel as being hostile.

President Monson spoke of a "metamorphosis of society’s morals" and an already "wide chasm" growing between society's morals and our own.

Today, we are finding that larger numbers are finding it easier to ridicule the standards that we know to be true. Some distort reality, ridicule what is sacred, and mislead others about what path to follow. Whatever they say, whomever they convince, and however easy it is to get distracted by such publications and their aftermath- I figure we have more important things to do instead of dwelling on these things.

For me, I figure the best thing to do is to just let them laugh and move forward. That chasm is getting bigger and the only place I want to be is where the rod is; I struggle enough with that as it is. We have enough work cut out for ourselves to deal with instead of worrying about the pride of those who laugh at the church.

J-TX
Allen, TX

Mark;

Believe it or not, our missionaries are not sent out to "convert" people. They have a very narrow mission, to share the barest principles of the gospel of Christ with people who are prepared to receive manifestations of the Spirit. The Spirit does the converting. The missionaries are a resource, a conduit to find truth.

When someone ambushes the missionaries and attacks them with obscure facts or deep doctrinal questions, that lands well outside the scope of their missions. Don't know how to handle it? Possibly. I learned much more about the Church in my 30's and 40's than I knew as a missionary.

But the assignment of the missionaries is not to contend, nor to defend, but to preach, teach, exhort and expound, and invite all to come unto Christ. And that they do to a marvelous degree. That they do.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

This incident says more about Bloomberg than it does the LDS Church and its finances. It tells me that they are more than willing to shill for the left than inform the business sector.
Once you take tasteless (and unnecessary) swings at organized religion, you've lost journalistic integrity.

skeptic
Phoenix, AZ

All churches, including the LDS, should be required by law to give full financial disclosure. All citizens are made to supplement the churches finance by the church's non-profit status of not paying taxes so all citizens taxes are increased to cover what the churches don't pay. Therefore, all citizens should receive an accounting for what they are giving their tax money for. The same goes for governments. The federal government should be required to give an annual audited financial statement to the citizens the same as corporations do for their share holders.

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