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Published: Sunday, July 22 2012 5:00 a.m. MDT

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ILOVEJESUS
kaysville, UT

Wow, after reading this article, it continues to amaze me that Mormons consider themselves "Christian"? Why do you think that you have Christ church when clearly the body of believers is the Church. We are under a foundation of apostles from the NT and prophets of the OT and all the believers are connected with Christ being the Chief cornerstone of the house. We are a temple of the Lord. The believers. I truly hope you understand this. Read Esph 2: 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Christ gave the opportunity to all to come to him and 100's of millions of His believers are being saved. Please stop the boasting when you shouldn't.

skeptic
Phoenix, AZ

Perhaps good intentioned, but it seems clumsy and distorted to lecture on moral behavior using antiquated fictitious stories from the book of Mormon. It seems it would be more effective using modern story and example that people can relate to. There is no shortage of both good and bad examples to use in lesson plans.

sharrona
layton, UT

RE: Korihor's lies. This shows the need for studying the scriptures.

(Mosiah 3:19); For the natural man is an enemy of God, and has been from the fall of Adam
(Ether 3:2)we are unworthy before thee: because of the fall our natures have been evil continually.

Psalm 51:5 clearly teaches that we have sinful nature from birth: Gen 8:21; Ps 51:5 ; 58:3. Paul explains, As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.. (Romans 3:10-11 KJV);Also,
Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by NATURE the children of wrath, even as others.(Eph 2:3 KJV)

Bill in Nebraska
Maryville, MO

Skeptic: The Book of Mormon is only fictional to those who wish to deny the truths that lies within its pages.

The stories of both the Old Testament, the New Testament and the Book of Mormon testifies of the divinity of Jesus Christ as the only begotten of the Father in the flesh. The scriptures very plainly tells this story. The Book of Mormon was written for our day and for our time. It gives very plain and understanding things that are not found in the bible because of either being lost or totally removed from it. Together the Book of Mormon and The Bible work together to sustain and tell the story of the Saviors life and symbolism pertaining to his divine mission.

To deny this is as blasphemous as you state about members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

Until one actually studies and understands the principles of the Gospel of Jesus Christ all else are appendages to it. Baptism is essential for entering into the Kingdom of God. However, it is to be done by whom has proper authority to do so, priesthood authority. None of the evangleical sects have this authority.

Abeille
West Haven, Utah

Sharrona -

I know that this will fall on 'Deaf Ears', but I'll answer your suggested contradiction anyway.

Yes - all men (and women) have sinned, and we know that all will sin. All are in need of Christ's atonement. Sin in this mortal state is inevitable. Just as was recorded in Genesis 6:5 (and various places within the Book of Mormon), "...God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." For this, a person's own sins, we are responsible. However, there is a world of difference between a 'Sinful Nature' and being responsible and punished for other's sins. If you believe in the New Testament, you must believe that Christ atoned for the sins of those who would repent. Repentance involves forsaking the practice. How, then, can you forsake the practice of another's sins, heaped upon your shoulders at birth? Christ himself teaches of repentance through himself and to forsake sin. Otherwise, how could we follow his words - "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heacven is perfect." (Matt 5:48)

sharrona
layton, UT

RE: Abeille, I know that this will fall on 'Deaf Ears. "Be ye therefore perfect" …(Matt 5:48)

Perfect[ed](teleios)in Love(see v 43-47)not that we can attain it in this life, God’s standard

Total Depravity according to Luther, Calvin, Knox, meant that man was beyond self-help. When man measures himself by man he is always able to find some good in himself or in others.

Even though he was the head of God's creation Adam failed. he brought depravity on his whole family and to every descendent down through the ages. We inherited sin and death from old Adam.
"… just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned . . . " (Romans 5:12).

Sin, and death came because of Adam; however grace and eternal life came through Christ.
“But the free gift is not like the transgression. For if by the transgression of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many" (Romans 5:15).

skeptic
Phoenix, AZ

RE: Sharrona,
I enjoy reading your posts and I appreciate the deep thought you express, but sometimes it is difficult to obtain what is your message. Could you give a introductory synopsis of what is your argument to make it easier to digest. Thx.

The Deuce
Livermore, CA

I am not of the LDS faith but find myself interested in the doctrine and some of the issues related to why others do not feel that the LDS Church is Christian. Even a non-member who has done some study realizes that the LDS Church is founded on the belief in Christ. All of their scriptures speak of this. As to the topic of this article, I would have to say that we experience this type of discussion in our society on a daily basis. I am much more open to understanding than those Korihor-types that seem to constantly speak explaining that there is no God. Based upon the evil in this world, one would have to make the assumption that there is also a power for good.
To: ILOVEJESUS kaysville, UT - I am not quite sure what point you are tyring to make. But then again, I do have problems understanding many of the comments from those living in Utah. It seems that "religion" has created a strange society there.

Michigander
Westland, MI

Bill in Nebraska,

Jesus Christ was the Only Begotten of the Father in the flesh (on earth) AND in the spirit world (heaven). Only Jesus Christ pre-existed. No other man or woman ever born on earth can claim this.

This is the true doctrine of Christ.

Michigander
Westland, MI

Bill in Nebraska,

Baptism is essential for entering into the Kingdom of God (the 1st Resurrection). However, it is to be done only by one who has the proper authority to do so, i.e., priesthood authority. None of the evangelical sects have this authority.

You are 100% correct. Only The Church of Jesus Christ (WHQ: Monongahela, PA) has this authority.

jeanie
orem, UT

ILOVE JESUS -

God has again sent apostles and prophets among his people to guide them just as he did during Biblical times.

The problem is not our belief or disbelief in the scriptures you sited, but in our interpretation. We believe there is an organized church given authority by God to be Christ's church with all the responsibilities and blessings that entails. Where as you understand this scripture differently.

Thomas S. Monson is God's prophet to modern people like Moses was to the Old Testament people. We are certainly Christian because we *continue* to be built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets with Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone and members (and I would add - all good Christians) being the Body of Christ.

Even if you do not agree with our understanding of this scripture you might at least be able to see why we claim to be Christian. I hope you understand this point of view and accept that while we may not ever agree, we both love Christ and recognize what he did for us personally.

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