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Published: Friday, July 6 2012 3:07 p.m. MDT

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Emophiliac
Vernal, UT

The term is accurate. The people in question are not legally in the US and they are not citizens. Thus, they are both here illegally and they are aliens.

How about a story about how their presence and support for that presence is offensive to citizens?

chiefbrady
Draper, UT

It's not Illegal Immigrant. It should be Illegal Alien. Immigrants come here with the intention of becoming citizens. Aliens have no such intent. Alien is defined by Webster's as: a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization. And immigrant is defined as: a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence. Nowhere in that definition of immigrant does it mention becoming a citizen!

I-am-I
South Jordan, UT

I'm not sorry if accuracy, being matter-of-fact, or/and honesty are offensive to you. If you immigrate by means other than what the established laws require you have done so illegally. When did the United States government make it a priority to protect non-citizens (particularly those that are, undocumented-which isn't necessarily an accurate term-)over citizens at the expense of the citizens?

I'm with Emophiliac on this one.

BigD
Salt Lake City, UT

What a joke! Call a spade a spade. "Humanistic approach"? What about the poeple trying to do it right and wait their turn? So humanistic!

TOO
Sanpete, UT

Drugs that are banned are illegal.
Laws that are broken are illegal.
Hitting a mailbox with a bat is illegal.
A person who has no citizenship yet lives here is illegal.

Illegal is a pretty easy term to define. This is another attempt by the left to divide and turn something into racism.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

a rose by any other name....

BigDave
Murray, UT

Criminal Invaders?

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Ideally (since people aren't illegal how the article mentioned it) it'd be something like "illegally immigrating immigrant" but that's just messy (albeit more accurate).

a900rr
St. George, UT

Maybe they should be labeled Alleged Illegal Immigrants until some court affirm their 'illegalness'. There can be many undocumented immigrants, and even then, that could be taken as some racial slur. Geeez....PC is going too far!

River Dog
Salt Lake City, UT

Why have laws anymore? This is just anther step to open borders that many people want. An actual war isn't needed to destroy a nation, it can be destroyed from within, and in this case, by a flood of "illegal" aliens from many countries and even those countries that want to see the U.S. destroyed. How many other countries tolerate an influx of "illegals" like the United States? Can't think of any at the moment. Many presidents and congresses have ignored this problems for decades. President Obama sidestepped congress and recently issued his own decree for younger aliens to have a pathway to remain in this country. The Supreme Court acts on its own and congress has been neutered. Can't see much hope ahead for us.

a bit of reality
Shawnee Mission, KS

The Supreme Court got it right. Actions can be either legal or illegal. People themselves shouldn't be catagorized that way.

If somebody hasn't paid their income taxes in a couple of years, they aren't an illegal tax payer. They are simply somebody who is behind on their tax payments. If somebody drives 65 in a 55 they aren't an illegal driver. They're just somebody who is driving above the legal speed limit.

Likewise, If somebody overstays their visa or enters the country without obtaining one, they aren't illegal human beings. They are people without proper documentation.

Newbie
South Jordan, UT

Can we trade some of these politicians, arguing over such idiotic things, for some of the hardworking people trying to immigrate here leagally?

"Undocumented" leads one to believe that they can cross over illegally and become documented later. Call it what it is -- an unfair advantage for those cheating in a broken system.

LVIS
Salt Lake City, UT

Oh, good grief. Maybe--MAYBE--you can make a case that the term is inaccurate legally. But, a slur? Seriously? I can think of a lot of terms for groups of people that would be called slurs, but not the expression of status that covers those from ANY country that broke laws to get here.

RichardB
Murray, UT

Orwellian doublespeak. Trying to divert the discussion from the illegal acts they commit, and make us focus on word games.

dogchow1
Salt Lake City, UT

If you can change the terms, you can change the perceptions. Words mean things.
There are different terms for different ways the law can be broken. The person breaking the speed limit law is a speeder and is breaking a legal law.
The burglar who breaks into your home is doing it illegally.
There are other terms for different lawbreakers, such as tax evaders, etc.
The alien who breaks the law by coming into this country through legal channels did not just forget his papers, he is intending to be here illegally and by definition is an illegal alien, period.

majmajor
Layton, UT

Murderer - One who murders
Rapist - One that Rapes
Drug Dealer - One that deals in drugs
Addict - One that has an addiction.
Speeder - One who speeds
Thief - One that steals
Illegal Immigrant - One that immigrates illegally

I am an admitted speeder. I have no issues with someone calling me a speeder. The truth sometimes hurts.

Janet
Ontario, OR

I am continually amazed by the attitude of moral superiority of those who don't have the slightest grasp of immigration laws or the experiences of immigrants -- documented or undocumented. We need well-thought-out, sane, compassionate, and reasonable immigration reform. There are ways for mercy and justice to collaborate, but not as long as we'd rather yell than talk and not as long as hate, resentment, and pride trump humility and civility in the public discourse. When you talk about illegal immigration, do you feel that anger tightening your chest and welling up in your throat? I don't care where you stand on the debate, that anger isn't righteous. And lest you think I think I'm better than you are -- I have had to remind myself about that a hundred times.

RichardB
Murray, UT

Can anyone point me to a copy of the Supreme court decision where it uses the words "undocumented immigrant". I have read three versions (sites) and not found it once?

unauthorized alien 3 times, numerous use of alien, twice it uses illegal alien
with deportable alien, and removable alien used twice.

Are sites removing the " undocumented" or was the story made up by Mr. Charles Garcia? DN, please let them post a link to the decision.

John C. C.
Payson, UT

"Undocumented immigrant" is also inaccurate, as many who reside here intend to return, and would do so more readily if it were not so difficult to go back and forth for work.

I prefer "undocumented resident." It is a kinder way of referring to those who would have been documented in the first place if we hadn't been so selfish and short-sighted in the first place. We, by not giving them the same privileges as our ancestors, are the first offenders.

RRB
SLC, UT

Janet, calling names, such as being moral superior judging others without knowing their immigration background, then condemning them for their anger?

We have had comprehensive immigration reform in 1986, and 1996. They changed nothing. They helped business with their flex labor plan of bringing more people here. No enforcement came out of the laws.

Maybe all we have left is our anger.

My background? half my relatives came here from Mexico. They wouldn't come any other way. They stood in line, and realized that supply of labor is greater than our countries demand, you wait your turn, just like everything else.

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