Attack of the Republiclones, I could pull about 10,000 sound bites and
commercials off of YouTube where the left, from those screamers at MSNBC to
Pelosi, Reid, and Obama trashing Bush and Republicans all over the place. The
Republicans have never made a TV ad showing a Paul Ryan look alike pushing
someone off of a cliff. I have seen the left hang Bush in effigy, burn the
American flag, advocate the killing of Bush, it goes on and on. Bottom line,
the left is not pure on this matter.
No one will miss him.
Huntsman has been a member of the CFR (Council of Foreign Relations). In other
words, a Gadianton. Like the mafia, you do not leave unless they have other
plans for you. He refused to discuss this with me and brushed by me at an
interview while running for Governor.. I have been told he was very disliked
while Governor. He unconstitutionally had ties to Mexico while Governor and
made alliances then just apologized (after) He had conflict of interests and
should have exposed this then, or have stepped down. If he didn't
understand the Constitution he should not have been Governor. He has a huge ego
and part of the One Worlders inside and out Don't trust him one iota. He,
like Hatch, will continue to bring down our Country. He is more dangerous (if
possible) than Hatch.
What Huntsman fails to recognize is that politically correct insanity has become
the de facto law of the land and these are some of the disastrous results:
Abortion on demand; unwed parenthood; homosexual marriage; the welfare,
entitlement state; amnesty for illegal immigrants; etc. etc. etc. These things
are not conservative ideas. They are liberal, left wing ideas and they are
killing us. It is not the right that has gone haywire, it is the LEFT. And for
the right to try and be more like the left will only make things worse.
@CRB and a lot of others who obviously don't take the time to read what
candidates actually say and publish and elect to take their news from the chat
boards of the DN.Jon Huntsman is and was a true conservative in
every sense of the word. He adopted a far more conservative approach to
managing Utah than Mitt Romney did in MA and led Utah to be one of the more
successful states during his tenure. In the elections, he argued for practical
and implementable solutions that are far right of where the country is going and
were in some cases even further right than Mitt Romney's, who frankly still
hasn't taken a position on any other item than the economy.Huntsman would have been the right candidate and I'm sure will be in the
future. Romney will lose this time, mark my word, because he refuses to deliver
nonpartisan leadership and feels he needs to run some analysis about how his
words will be taken before saying anything decisive. It's not a way to be
leader and certainly won't make him the leader of the free world.
I don't understand all this talk about Jon Huntsman being a
"reasonable" republican (is there really such a thing?) or even more
laughable a "RINO". Huntsman is at his heart just as right wing and
goose-stepping as they come. Any liberal who says they'd vote for him is
out their minds.
I can't see me voting Republican any time soon, but there have been
Republicans whose policies have worked well and I have liked. And one was the
man who was responsible for the highway system, and, although I wasn't
nearly old enough to vote for him, I'm glad he did it. But Huntsman is
right about his take on the political atmosphere. While I wouldn't have
voted for him, either, his platform didn't seem to be as one-sided as the
current nominee's. He would, I believe, were he elected, be willing to put
country before party as well. What brought him down was the wholesale put-down
of his contributions during the Obama administration by opponents, including the
current nominee, who couldn't seem to understand that serving the country
includes being willing to use one's abilities in a position when your
President asks you to take it because you, not someone else, are the most
qualified person to place there. Now, think on that.
Having been a lifelong GOP I can fully understand Mr. Huntsman.Who
is the GOP party, not RINO's not tea party, not a party of copmpromise,
known nationally as a party of "NO" they have yet to establish their
current identity. Mitt Romney cannot establish who he is let alone direct the
party/country/reasonable men and women.I do not fully endorse Mr.
Huntsman but in this he is correct. For anyone to attend the GOP party this
year is wishful thinking.We wish it could be like the days gone by,
but having the economy brought down under the reign of Pres Bush and Pres Obama
has not done a lot to correct the course in the past 3 years. The country needs
a leader, not a politician but a leader. Sadly neither party is allowing
leaders to surface, only politicians who must pay back supporters once they gain
office. The next term because of lack of leadership is bound to be a reflection
of this one.
Another honest, sensible decision by Huntsman. Unlike Romney, he's a
unifier, not a divider.As an Obama supporter, I'm so glad Jon
won't be getting the GOP nomination. He's the only one of the bunch
who I thought might have a good chance against the president. Thankfully,
Republicans will nominate Romney, which means one thing: Obama will be
re-elected by a comfortable margin, perhaps even a landslide.
Someone a little bitter that not many voted for him?Huntsman you may
have gotten some more votes if you listened to the voters.We said no to
the soccer stadium, your wife said yes. If you would have listened to the
voters when making that decision you may have got more votes in presidency run.
Re:HuntI did not report Congress' OVERALL approval rating. You
are correct, in that it the overall rating for Congress from 13-17%.The
data i referred to was specific to the parties, asked: Do you approve or
disapprove of the way Republicans/Democrats in Congress are doing their job? It
also asked "which political party better represents your own values and is
more concerned with the needs of people like you? In case you havent
noticed, Congress isnt doing much of anything. The House has been passing
numerous bills which dont have a prayer of passing in the evenly divided Senate.
Debt as a percentage of GDP is what matters. While we need to look
at debt on a long term basis, austerity measures right now will just further
increase our economic woes. It has been found that unemployment payments and
food stamps are significantly more stimulating to the economy than tax cuts. As
Romney said " “If you just cut, if all you’re thinking about
doing is cutting spending, as you cut spending you’ll slow down the
@Lost in DCI see the point you are trying to make. Yes there are
voices on the left. Are they as hate-filled? In my opinion, not even close.
You mentioned some comedians: Letterman and Maher. First off, I don't
watch either of them, but they point fun at both parties (pre-dominantly the
right, but hey, they give them more material). I don't even know if Rosie
O'Donnell has a program anymore--never saw that. I have occassionaly seen
the Lawernce O'Donnell show on MSNBC. Does he attack women and call them
derogatory names like Rush--no. I think Ed Shultz did do something like that
once, apologized, and was fined. Rush doubled-down. I don't know the
Behar person you are mentioning.I can watch the "left" shows
and not have to agree on every issue. The Democratic Party spans far left to
blue dogs. The Tea Party is trying to purge any GOP who disagree. On the
whole, my liberal friends while passionate on issues aren't belligerent and
want to work with the other party to move things forward. GOP--my way or
nothing! Have a good day.
If you want to know what the Republican Party has sunk to consider the parade in
Huntsville where one of the floats actually encouraged violence against the
president. The Republican Party stinks to high heaven. I wonder how a good man
like Huntsman could ever be at home in it again.
I'm not attending the convention either. It's way over there and
Bravo, Governor Huntsman.I am appalled by "party first hold on
to or regain power at all costs" mantra that i see in both parties and i
believe it won't change until smart, courageous and articulate candidates
like you stand up with some intellectual integrity. It is my opinion
that your approach to every single issue that faces our country displayed core
knowledge and thoughtfulness that others either lacked or soft-pedaled as they
played to their emotionally irrational base. Please don't go
away.dave thomas -- Farmington, Utah
"A more confident future for the United States." What do you have in
mind, Jon? That's the problem. That statement is almost as specific as
"Hope and Change." Jon Huntsman isn't getting pushed out of the
picture in the Republican party because of 'right-wing extremists.'
His problem is that he is short on specifics. There is a disconnect in the
arguments against the GOP. On the one hand, the GOP has been co-opted by
'right-wing extremists' who don't give people like Huntsman a
voice. And Utah is considered the most red of the red states. Yet, it was Utah
who elected him as governor. So which is it? Jon Huntsman is a light-weight
and that's why he didn't win the nomination.
Will not attend any Rep.Convention! Oh no Johny Boy say it aint so. I am broken
Not a time to make a stand. Support what you agree with mostly, and get
over your vainess.
I read Jon's statement:... a more confident future for the
United States," Huntsman said in a statement. "A future based on problem
solving, inclusiveness, and a willingness to address the trust deficit, which is
every bit as corrosive as fiscal and economic deficits."...The
Republican Party that I know is about problem solving, inclusiveness and
honesty. I am left to wonder what Republican Party he is talking about.I can only conclude that he is seeing something that no other Republican
I know can see (because it is not there) or he is so far to the left that he is
incapable of seeing the truth.There is one other alternative: It
could be a case of sour grapes.
@truthseekerI'm not sure where your getting your data but its
not one on Congress's Job approval. Congressional approval is in the 13
percent range. (ABC poll 1/2012) I'm a registered Independent.
I'm not so much concerned about the Dem's vs. Repub's as I am
concerned about conservative fiscally sane policies vs. politically driven
entitlements that ignore sanity. (i.e. Orin Hatch's support of unfunded
Medicare part D)If the dem's were passing a budget in
Washington and doing anything other than spending out there ears at an ever
accelerated rate, I'd support them. Right now it just so happens its the
Republicans who are actually talking about reigning in Government so they have
my ear. JFK said it best,"ask not what your country can do for
you, but what you can do for your country." The democratic mantra these days
is for Government to spoon feed you from cradle to grave. This creates an
entitlement society. They throw JFK's statement out the window in order to
elect the next lib who will give them something for nothing off the backs of tax
re:Hunt"this is precisely why Congress's approval rating is so
low. They continue to pass left leaning laws and enact left leaning
policies"Really? About one-third of Americans
approve of the way congressional Democrats are doing their jobs, compared to a
23-percent approval rating for Republicans. Though the numbers are poor for both
parties, support for Democrats is higher across most ranges — age,
education level, income level, religion and political preference. The GOP runs
about evenly with Democrats among non-college-educated whites and slightly ahead
of them among white evangelical Protestants, according to the poll. (ABC
@lost in DC"If he’s so reasonable and what the party needs, why
does he not try to have a voice?"He tried that, he ran an entire
campaign, how much good did that do him?
Judas H. Priest! I thought better of Huntsman. This response is so juvenile.
Did he get rid of all his good advisers or are they the ones behind this
Furry, atl134, LValfre,If he’s so reasonable and what the party
needs, why does he not try to have a voice? No, it’s purely a case of
sour grapes.merich39,so you intend to condemn our nation to
another 4 disastrous years under BO?Hunt,Get used to it, the
“tolerant” left has all sorts of names for people who do not tow
their line.George, So now the people who engage in class
warfare and constantly attack people with money are going to stand up for
Huntsman because he feels slighted by the repubs? The comedy train rolls onAttackoftherepubliclonesAnd the hate of Bill Maher, Lawrence
O’Donnell, Rosie O’Donnell, David Letterman, and Joy Behar, etc ad
infinitum must be acceptable to you, because it comes from the left addressed to
the right. Correct?
Sorry, I no longer care what RINO Huntsman does.THe influence of
RINOs on the Republican party is driving away conservatives who will no longer
"socialism lite" as an alternative to the "socialism now" of the
@GeorgeYou nailed it! They just listen to the GOP's marching
orders from the "brain trust" of Limbaugh, Rove, Coulter and other ilk
and let the hate flow through their veins oozing like maple syrup. Logic or
reason doesn't matter. It never has with these Tea Party types. They just
need something to hate--badly!
Dear Jonny, the rest of the RINO's called - they want their donations back.
And this is news because ...... ? Huntsman was irrelevant when he was running,
and he's even more so now. Is the rumor true that Hunstman is planning on
attending the Independent, Libertarian or Geen Party Conventions?Re:
Pagan "Huntsman was the best GOP candidate in 2012." Nice that your
assessment was shared by so many others. I believe you're the only one that
sees your diamond in the rough.
Governor Huntsman was the candidate for me because of his willingness to address
all the issues listed in this article. I will vote for Governor Romney and ifhe
is smart he will ask Governor Huntsman to serve as his UN Ambassador.
So now people that always defend the rich and big business are going to attach
Huntsman because he comes from money? the comedy train rolls on.
@TruthseekerJust because you quote someone doesn't make what
they are saying correct. Norm Orenstein's biggest mistake in his argument
is that he assumes the center of American politics is an unmovable position. In
fact the center where the American people reside currently is to the right of
where our current politicians reside in Washington. I would argue that this is
precisely why Congress's approval rating is so low. They continue to pass
left leaning laws and enact left leaning policies that mainstream America does
not agree with.Orenstein says that the Republican Party is scornful of
compromise. He must think that the Republican Party was right on track under
Bush when they were in lockstep with Democrats in spending and growth. Every
compromise offered up by the Democratic left is only a compromise to slow the
growth of government and its spending ways, not reverse it. So when Republicans
scoff, the left can say "LOOK! Republicans won't compromise."
There needs to be a pendulum swing back to decreasing government and its
spending, not increasing. Right now "compromise" resides left of center.
While I don't agree with Huntsman's policies--for example, he endorsed
Paul Ryan's budget plan, he has the courage to voice what many centrist
Republicans (and many Americans)know to be true. The Republican Party has moved
far away from what it used to be and is putting politics before governing which
is damaging the future of this country. Norm Orenstein (conservative
American Enterprise Institute)put it succinctly: "the Republican
Party, has become an insurgent outlier—ideologically extreme; contemptuous
of the inherited social and economic policy regime; scornful of compromise;
unpersuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence, and science; and
dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition. When one party moves
this far from the center of American politics, it is extremely difficult to
enact policies responsive to the country’s most pressing challenges."
@NTHuntsman is not a liberal or a Democrat. I certainly don't agree
with him on everything, but he actually has a willingness to work with people in
the interest of moving the country forward, and that's a good thing. As for
the party coming to him... Huntsman is right. DW-nominate scores partisanship of
congressional members. 1 is fully conservative, 0 is moderate, -1 is fully
independent. In 1981 the average Republican had a score of around +0.23 and the
average Democrat around -0.28. By 1993 the average Republican was +0.40 and
average Democrat was -0.33. In 2011 the average Republican was +0.65 and the
average Democrat was -0.40. So yeah partisanship has increased over the past few
decades and it's moreso on the Republican side rather than the Democrats
(heck most of the reason the Democrats one went up from 2009 to 2011 was because
bluedogs lost their seats, usually when a party gains seats and the house it
moderates more because it's picking up purple districts but in this case
Republicans actually became even more conservative after the 2010 races).
Lets face it; the ONLY reason Jon Huntsman got as far as he did (guv.,
ambassadorship, etc.)was his (dads)money.I thought the liberal
progressives' didn't like those qualities in Republicans?The Demos. liked him for Pres. so if their guy (Obama)lost, what could be
better than having Huntsman in the White House? It would be almost the same as
having Obama for another term!Huntsmans' positions more closely
resemble the Demo. platform than the Repubs. I suppose he KNOWS he won't
be elected to much of anything as a Demo which explains why he runs as a
Republican, disguised as a Demo.
I too...the Common Sense Czar, will NOT be attending the Republican Convention.
This is just as big of news story.
I didn't vote for Huntsman as Governor and I would never vote for him as
President. He is the epitome of what pandering to gain power and prestige is.
For those that want to call me a "far right extremist", you go
right ahead and keep labeling me and others you don't agree with negative
terms, it really only shows your losing the argument. Name calling is usually
the last gasp of someone who has nothing substantive to say. The fact of the
matter is, I have always been the same person and haven't wavered from the
ideals I believe in. What we have seen in this nation is a slow creep to the
left as Governments size and reach has been expanded by both Democrats and
Republicans. So now, those of us who looked moderate in the past are all of a
sudden labeled with the negative tag of "far right extremist". It
really is shameful.
Mitt Romney and John Huntsman are both centrists in their basic nature. The
difference between the two is that John Huntsman actually stands by his core
principals. Mitt Romney would sell his soul to win election. Agree or disagree
with John Huntsman, you at least have to give him credit for staying true to
himself. Mitt, on the other hand, has been all over the map... he been whoever
the listening audience wanted him to be. As an independent who voted for
Reagan, I'll never cast a vote for Mitt Romney.
Huntsman would be way better than Romney. He come's from a multicultural
family (like our country is), has tons of foreign experience with China (the new
world mega-power on the rise), and he distances himself from his faith (like a
president is supposed to with politics). I liked Huntsman a lot.
I get it, pride goeth before the fall...Jon must not have received an invitation
to speak from the main platform. Frankly, I've heard all the Chinese from
him that I need to!
He is a center left. That is why liberals like him and think he would be a
great republican nominee. Like McCain, if he cant standout he wouldnt get
elected. Fence sitting gets you nothing. The problem with romney is he keeps
trying to stay so close to the fence.
Anyone could have predicted the ID's of those who would stand behind Gov
Huntsman in the comment section today...Pagan, atl134, and there will be a few
more, once they roll out of bed.Makes me laugh, actually.I guess some of you just as well say "hey, if the Republicans would just
accept the Democrat's platform, then I would be a Republican" ???And for Jon to show his arrogance in this way, insinuating that the GOP
needs to come to him rather than the other way around....sheesh!Abesnt in 2012 and expecting the GOP to embrace you in 2016? Think again.
None of the things Huntsman calls for are what he argued for during the primary
season. He ran on a non-position, can't we all get along, liberal economic
platform that never clarified. He ran last against every single opponent for a
reason. He was also the only of the remaining 8 candidates that never had a
political pulse. It was a shame really. It was a waste of money and effort in
an effort of hubris that never had impact or moved th meter. The only possible
reason for running other than pure hubris would have been an effort to get a VP
or cabinet post. However, his Joe Biden politics seemed to have ruined that as
well leaving him foundering at a liberal think tank and finally showing his true
colors. He certainly has almost no credibility within the conservative movement
and only fringe interest in the Republican party. He still sounds whiney. His
refusal to attend the convention is like the kid that didn't make the
basketball team saying he will refuse to attend varsity practice. Why do you
think anybody cares?
He's reasonable, and Republicans hate reason.
Boo hoo, Jon.Nice case of sour grapes
To Still Blue 11:55 a.m. July 6Sorry, you're wrong. Governor
Huntsman is a Republican. He's just not a far right wing extremist.
He's what Republicans SHOULD be.The Republican Party, and the
United States, would have been far better off if he was the Republican candidate
for President. He was the class of the field. Too bad the far right extremist
base wouldn't give him a chance.
Good riddance. We need to get all the RINOs out of the party. And Pagan is
right--he would have been the best for the Democrats because there is no
difference between Obama and Huntsman.
Jon, just go ahead and make it official - join the Democrat party. That's
who you are. You and your family have hated Mitt for a few years now and deep
down, you are hoping he loses. It's sad when one thinks he is so
important because his daddy gave him a lot of money; but when evaluating his
life, has never really accomplished anything. The GOP convention will not
miss you for one second.
Huntsman was the best GOP canidate in 2012. A shame, really.