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Gov. calls the legal situation 'complicated'

Published: Monday, July 2 2012 8:00 p.m. MDT

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Provo, UT

"But you can't pass a law that outlaws stupid," the Governor said in his own defense.

Peter Coyotl
West Jordan, UT

So go ahead and ban them. Waiting for a contribution from the fireworks industry before you act?

Autumn Cook
Lehi, UT

Well said, Governor. It's refreshing to have a thoughtful, measured response from a political leader for a change. We get tired of the overreacting, the "Oh look! I can DO something about this and look important!" attitude from politicians. Thank you!

Kearns, UT

How dare the Governor try to inhibit the ability of dumb people to start fires that cost hundreds of millions every year to fight, not to mention destroys homes and lives.

Sounds like an Obamaesque socialist move to me.

Still Blue after all these years
Kaysville, UT

This is stupid. The entire state is a tinder box. Ban them, what are we waiting on?

Salt Lake City, UT

I am a democrat and the governor has my absolute support on how he is handling this issue. My only fear is we have passed the "thoughtful, measured" threshold and now must act. The economic downturn has taken our tax base to new lows...where is the state going to come up with the funds to continue fighting these stupidity caused fires?

Best/worst quote: He said some senators have already expressed concern that local law enforcement authorities could abuse the power to restrict gun use. "As soon as you do it, somebody may carry it to extreme," Waddoups said.

Waddoups wake up. You are using disgusting rhetoric, in this case inciting the fear of gun control, to further your own political agenda. Quite trying to keep your seat...try leading for once. Yes, you may make a few people angry but you may just win a few new votes by being one of the "thoughtful" ones the governor needs right now.


Don't ban them...let's hasten the baptism by fire.

Provo, UT

He's telling people to not be stupid, by doing something stupid: allowing fireworks--when Utah is already on fire. How is allowing fireworks this year anything BUT stupid? Sounds to me like he is doing what he already claims is what Congress does: nothing. If he wants to be re-elected, the safe thing would be to keep this state from unnecessarily burning. Say no to fireworks this year if you love America and want to keep her beautiful.

Saint George, UT

Then we'd better ban all cigarette smoking in the State as well and no vehicles can pull trailers because their chains cause sparks. Go gov't go!

Midvale, UT

Um , people it really is a simple issue, it doesn't mean passing a new law , it doesn't mean we have to have gun control, all that is needed is Smart common sense thought process.

All the governor has to do is make a public announcement or State of Address to the citizens of the state of Utah, like he has, that all public shooting on state and federal lands are prohibited and the use of fireworks within the state for the remaining of the fireworks season are prohibited, and that their use will be evaluated on a Safety for all aspect rather than a act of severe compliance. just like forest services use the fire indicator board, they use a state indicator, if it is too dangerous to use guns or fireworks on public or private lands you just don't do it, and if you are caught you will be fined or jailed accordingly, and the saying goes the other way it is safe for all, then the prohibited use is lifted. All determined by those who know best.

Plain and simple, It doesn't have to be complicated.


With the way the state is currently Dry and Hot..
Ban the darned things this year.
We cannot count on "Common sense" there appears to be none. I watched my own neighbors lighting them off last night... Right next to a tinder dry field and homes surrounding it.
You can change laws... But you cannot change STUPID.

Come on Governor Herbert... ban them this year. We have seen enough devastation and loss for one season. With a whole lot of Mother Nature to deal with still.

West Jordan, UT

I think it shows a lot of responsibility on the part of the governor to weigh his options instead of just overreacting. Why pass another law if we already have laws on the books that give him (or some other official) the authority. By criminalizing those who use fireworks or go target shooting, we add additional burdens to local law enforcement to whom the responsibility of enforcing new restrictions will fall. They need to be prepared to handle that added responsibility.

All that being said, I wouldn't oppose a ban on fireworks/target shooting this year at all. But, if a reasonable solution can be found that allows those who wish to participate in those activities responsibly to continue to do so, let's consider it. My suspicion though is that those who are responsible are like myself and would rather forgo their own privileges this year if it means preventing those who are irresponsible from causing more fires.

Wasatch Front, UT

I guess the governor believes in local control only when it comes to the Federal Government.

This is an issue that can be handled by individual cities and fire marshals. Most cities have already put into place total restrictions near the mountains. Down in the vally where there is little to no risk should not be restricted. It will only hurt businesses, tax receipts and individual freedom.

Yes there is a serious problem. But local, not state control is the best policy.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

He is up for re-election. He is waiting for the poll results to come in before deciding what to do.

He reminds me of a quote from the book "Band of Brothers." "Lieutenant Dike wasn't a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made NO decisions."

CHS 85
Sandy, UT


"Down in the vally where there is little to no risk should not be restricted."

I live in the "vally" where there is considerable risk. The undeveloped field behind my house is an absolute tinderbox. My home is in actual danger if the trees catch fire and the ember blow onto my house and my neighbors' houses. Fireworks should be restricted in our area, but every night I see people lighting fireworks and all it would take is one errant firework to cause a catastrophe.

Maybe in the "vally" where you live, there is no danger, but for much of the valley, there is real risk.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

let's see, how many of the current fires were started by fireworks? I have not heard ANY of them were - some by target shooters and one by a guy parking his car in tall dry grass where the hot muffler started the fire.

no need to over-react

Salt Lake City, UT

I find it ridiculous that this would be remotely controversial in an extremely dry year when virtually every region of the state has been affected by wildfires.

Only in Utah will people clamor on about how temporary fireworks and target-shooting bans, instituted at the local level, somehow unfairly restrict individual rights. No one has a constitutional right to start wildfires and place others in jeopardy. Some of this Tea Party stuff has become ridiculous!

Joey D

May have? What are you waiting for a public opinion poll? JUST DO IT!

Holladay, UT

lost in DC is right, NONE of the current fires have been started by fireworks. Do you realize, then, that every one of them still would have happened with a statewide ban? Then, everybody would be clamoring for something else. Please look at the causes people

Farmington, UT

THe headline should read: Utahn's think maybe they have a Governor...

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