NOT voting for a man just because he is a Mormon is just as dumb as voting for
the man just because he IS a Mormon. Sadly, we will have both types of people
in this country.
I am, however, anti republican.
An interesting observation is that almost all news article headlines about this,
report that 18 % would not vote for a Mormon. I actually found one article with
a headline that said "80 percent of Americans would support Mormon for
president". ie. Glass is half full (or 80% full).
I wonder what percent have an anti black American bias....?"The
poll also found that 43 percent of Americans do not even know Romney is a
Mormon."Wow, doesn't that say something. Talk about taking
the stance of "standing for something".What an opportunity
lost. People should be voting for him because of his morals, not because of
What was the anti-Catholic bias against JFK? Those biased against Mormons are
either the far left or the extreme religious fundamentalists. Romney
doesn't want to be associated with either.
So much for "exposure". Almost half the nation doesn't know
he's mormon. I'd be interesed in how many Americans actually know
what mormon is.The last time the nation took interest in a 1% niche
religion is when donny and marie were on TV.....35 years ago.
Actually anyone that would understand the truth of Mormonism will see them as
Hey, DN, your headline seems rather odd, no? "Just" 18%, when it was
only 17% before. And, does "just" mean you think it is good. Methinks
something like "One in five express anti-Mormon..." would have been
to Hemlock: A candidate running for office would accept the votes of anyone if
the opportunity presented itself, even if they publicly returned a donation. All
votes count the same.
@UtahBlueDevil"I wonder what percent have an anti black American
bias....?"I think polls from Gallup had that at around 5%.
Just??? So how would society look at us if "just 18%" would not vote
for a person because he is black? I would consider both being very close
minded. So when I vote for Romney, it won't be because he is a Mormon and
Obama is black, it will be because I want someone to save this economy and to
get our nation back in a safe zone. I want someone that other nations fear, not
Now how many told the truth in the poll?
Alt134 - if those numbers are current, that is indeed great news. In the 2008
election the numbers ranged from 17-19, about the same range. Probably the same
people as well. Go figure...."I want someone that other
nations fear, not mock at."Ummmm, first of all who is mocking
the current president? When was the last time you heard North Korea, Iran, or
Venezuela kick sand out way? They made it a regular practice during the last
administration. Bush Senior, Clinton, Reagan, all "respected"
internationally. Bush the Second was not. So lets be real careful what we are
after here. If the goal is to intimidate our enemies, long term we will have
big issues with China. Economically in the future we will have a hard time
matching their economic potential simply because of the numbers of
people\citizens in play. We would be far better off if our fellow nations
respected us, not feared us.Even under Reagan, terrorist neither
feared nor respected us... and were not afraid to strike at us. Under Bush II,
again, no fear, despite the pounding they took. Respect provides far more
leverage than fear. Fear should be the last resort.
"I want someone that other nations fear"I find that sad.
And you wonder why other nations want nuclear weapons.I want someone
that other nations respect.
@mojules -- That is hardly a fair comparison. A person's religious
background influences his or her decisions in everyday life. Mitt can change is
religious ideology, but he cannot change his ethnicity. If I had it my way,
we'd have an agnostic in the White House. Then we could end all the whining
about the president's religion.
Most of the people I know have more of a problem with Romney's tendency to
tell tall tales and flip-flop than where he goes to church. As columnist,
Michael Cohen, for The Guardian points out, in his June 21st column,
"Mendacious Mitt", "the United States has never been witness to a
presidential candidate, in modern American history, who lies as frequently, as
flagrantly and as brazenly as Mitt Romney." Not exactly an article of faith
with any religion that I know of.
If the 5% anti black Americans bias is true, why the heck democrats kept playing
the race card? "There is evidence of noise in the poll based on
the fact 25 percent of Democrats said they would not vote for a Mormon..."
How does this explain why they are in love with Harry Reid, the Mormon?To say that you vote for someone just because he is Mormon is no worse than
voting for someone because he is black or white. Blacks are very Opinionated
folks and to vote 95%+ Obama tells you it is racial but let's not forget
that whites overwhelmingly voted for Obama too. Like MLK said, let's judge
the man on the content of his character not the color of his skin or
religion.George Bush is not Mormon, Harry Reid is yet Mormons overwhelming
support Bush and oppose Reid, it's not about religion is it?
Imagine if you will someone who openly acknowledges being prejudiced against
Blacks or Hispanics, Catholics, Presbyterians, etc.. Now imagine that 18% of the
population bears that same exact prejudice, this is not good news for Latter-Day
Saints however it may be better than expected.
@Utah Blue DevilActually I'll look up full results, this is a very
old poll, a Gallup one from 2007. There may be some disparity between
"unwilling to vote for" in the poll I'm using and "less likely
to vote for" that other polls use. Willing to vote for...Catholic: 97% liberal 94% conservativeBlack: 95%L 92%CJewish: 93%L
91%CWoman: 96%L 82%CHispanic: 92%L 84%CMormon: 75%L 66%C (this
is pre-prop 8 a huge reason, along with Romney being the nominee, for the
reversal of late)Married 3 times (Giuliani): 74%L 60%C72yr old
(McCain): 59%L 63%C (this is why anti-mormonism didn't cost it for Romney,
McCain had the bigger handicap)Gay: 81%L 36%CAtheist: 67%L 29%CYeah, old people was the only category at the time conservtives were
more willing to vote for than liberals. Now that Mormons switched one can see
that everyone is more willing to vote for those that are more likely to be of
their political persuasion.
Right after I sent that in I was thinking "wait, if this article is from a
Gallup poll...that means there's a new one." This time though it's
Democrat-Indepdent-RepublicanBlack: 97%D 95%I 95%RWoman 97%D 96%I
92%RCatholic 95%D 92%I 97%RHispanic 94%D 89%I 93%RJew 92%D
89%I 95%RMormon 72%D 79%I 90%RLGBT 82%D 68%I 56%RMuslim 69%D
58%I 47%RAtheist 58%D 56%I 48%R
@t702"Blacks are very Opinionated folks and to vote 95%+ Obama tells
you it is racial but let's not forget that whites overwhelmingly voted for
Obama too"First off, what you should be noting is that Kerry got
roughly 90% of the black vote, so it's mostly a Democratic preference
rather than a racial one though he did get a few extra points for being black.
Consider that Romney has 80% of the LDS vote in a recent poll, this is pretty
similar since something like 70-75% of LDS members vote Republican anyway so
Romney being LDS gets him a few extra points, just like Obama. Second, Obama won the election 53-47 while having about 2/3 of hispanics, a
majority of asians and 90+% of black voters so by default he had to have less
than 53% of the white vote which is not "overwhelming white support".
All you have to do to look at some polls and their results is watch Jay Leno on
the street asking people the basic dumb questions and those educated people not
knowing the answer. In the 1950s and 60s even Readers Digest aimed at their
audience at an 8th grade level. Just because this is the United States of
America, doesn't mean that we are smart. I have noticed that
some of President Obama's speeches are sounding by the tone of voice very
much like Jeremiah Wright's type of voice and demeanor. That type of
preaching is a way for the President to bring in religion through the tone of
voice. The President has always spoken down to us as a nation, but now he is
using his preaching voice for his campaigning. People don't
always know what religion means in today's world. They can't hear
because of the noise around them, whether in Utah or other places. The
President will bring in what he thinks is religion to motivate people. I looked
at the people in Egypt who have not had freedom and they want a revolution.
President Obama went there criticizing USA
These articles are disgusting.No wonder we as a nation are in trouble when we
look at superficial things, but not the content of their character.(I know for many, religion is so NOT superficial, but there are different
levels everywhere you go. Harry Reid is a Mormon, and Southern CA would have to
be absolutely encased in ice and snow before I'd vote for him).
Sadly, Romney strikes me as a phony. Unlike Obama, who may go overboard with his
intellectual, nuanced dialogue, Romney's blithe statements like, "Iran
will have a bomb under an Obama administration, under a Romney administration,
they will not." defy a rational justification. Uh, how you gonna do that,
Mitt?Here is a quote from a prof I used to know: "There is a
great surplus of simple answers, but a huge shortage of simple questions."
Romney speaks only to the simple. Hoping they will believe him, forgetting that
he is 180 degrees off from his 2008 campaign. I remember. I campaigned for the
2008 Romney.I'll vote for the 2012 Obama.
Kevin LANGEMEIER: You have stated the problem precisely. Many, and as many more
learn of the teachings of Mormonism, have learned Mormonism is not Christianity.
I think the fact that Mormons in the last few years have decided to try and
move toward inclusion in Christianity is why there is 18% to begin with. The
Mormon faith is what it is but it is not Christianity and that is why so many
Christians have a problem with this election. Even as Liberty University
welcomed Mitt Romney to speak at the 2012 convocation, the school teaches
Mormonism as a cult. This creates great unrest in Christian voters. I am afraid
many voters may just not vote because they believe they have no moral choice. It
is unfortunate the GOP embraced a Mormon candidate. Prejudice aside, this
Presidential race and what is at stake in our country is just too close for the
GOP to have taken this path.