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Published: Friday, June 22 2012 10:40 a.m. MDT

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gonefishn
Salt Lake City, UT

This OOC schedule list is very flawed. I think several schools have much tougher tests than USC. The rest of the teams schedules are about the same with the exception of OREGON. Huge fail on the schedule Oregon! The only defense for Oregon's schedule is at least they get the horrible teams out of the way early rather than play them in November like some other teams I know.

SoCalUtahFan
Irvine, CA

I must admit...with 2 cupcakes (Northern Colorado and BYU), Utah can't argue with this rating of OOC. But the PAC-12 should make up overall.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

"Utah's OOC is rated 10th (third easiest) in the Pac-12 by the Sporting News."

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How can that be since BYU fans tell us everyday that they are a "storied" "top-25 program"?

So another words Utah gains nothing by adding BYU to our schedule.

Just for comparison it's still tougher than:

Alabama's OCC schedule: D2, D2, D2, Michigan on a natural site.
Florida: D2, D2, D2, Washington

At least we play Utah State on the road.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

It is a terrible list. The only good team SC plays is ND, and Cuse is decent. Stanford has relatively the same toughness with a bad SJSU, a sometimes decent Duke, and the same ND, and they're 8. UW plays a top 5 LSU team and a pretty good SDSU, and they're 5? Also, Dirk, this list has Utah ranked 9th, not 10th. Misinformation abounds.

giantfan
Farmington, UT

Uteology said,

"How can that be since BYU fans tell us everyday that they are a 'storied top-25 program'?

So another words Utah gains nothing by adding BYU to our schedule."

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Hahaha! You Ute fans sure are funny. Which team on your 2012 OOC schedule was ranked in the top-25 to finish last season? Were you even ranked in the top-25? Just imagine if BYU wasn't on your OOC schedule, you'd have the 12th hardest Pac-12 OOC schedule for sure! And now all we hear is how Utah probably won't schedule BYU anymore. Can't blame them, wouldn't want a perennial top-25 program on that OOC schedule. That would make it too hard!!

Qwest Perfected
Salt Lake City, UT

@giantfan

The y was only ranked in the top 25 in 1 out of 3 of the final polls. Please don't waste any more time trying to convince anyone that your program is "storied" or a perennial top 25 team.

They are well funded and most importantly they have a large built in fan base but they haven't done anything relevant in college football in almost 30 years. Multiple Vegas bowl appearances don't count and if you really want to pound your chest about 10 win seasons when it includes wins over the Idaho's and other bottom feeder teams, then knock yourself out. Nobody else is impressed.

giantfan
Farmington, UT

Qwest said,

"they haven't done anything relevant in college football in almost 30 years"

BYU has more top-25 finishes in the last 30 years, in the last 20 years, and as many in the last 10 years as your beloved Utes. I hardly think that makes them irrelevant, at least when compared to you-know-who.

Qwest said,

"The y was only ranked in the top 25 in 1 out of 3 of the final polls"

What three polls are you referring to? There are only two major polls that release a final poll, as in after all the bowl games have been played. You probably knew that though, right?

I just get a good laugh when Utes try and pretend like BYU doesn't mean anything to them, as displayed in this comment: "I must admit...with 2 cupcakes (Northern Colorado and BYU)...". Hahaha, see what I mean?

Honestly though, where would Utah's OOC rating be amongst Pac-12 programs without BYU on that schedule?

AntelopeValleyUte
Palmdale, CA

Qwest Perfected in response to @giantfan...WELL SAID!

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@giantfan

BYU was only ranked because AP #6 USC was ineligible in the BCS coaches poll. Do some research to find out why.

And Qwest is correct, no one is impressed. Case in point:

"Since 2008, the Pac-12 is 17-31 (.354) against top-25 competition outside of the conference...Colorado and Utah did not play any top-25 teams outside of the Pac-12 last season, so their figures aren't included." -- Kevin Gemmell | ESPN.com

Qwest Perfected
Salt Lake City, UT

@giantfan

AP, USA Today and BCS polls all release a final poll. You probably didn't know about the BCS poll - it is something the cougars aren't familiar with.

Also I never said byu doesn't mean anything to me. I love seeing them get completely dismantled at home by the Utes. I was referring to their lack of relevance at the national level. Typically it is the teams who play in the BCS bowl games that that earn said relevance. Not the teams that squeak into the top 25 poll.

I hope the rivalry continues but honestly I would also be fine with the Utes replacing the y with Michigan.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

And oregon states ooc, which also includes a ROAD game at BYU, is ranked 2nd toughest. It isn't BYU dragging utah's schedule down, it is that d2 team and usu doing it. washington st has BYU as well and is ranked 10th, right behind utah, and what do both of them have in common? That is right BYU is the ONLY good team each plays. Their other ooc opponenets are atrocious. BYU is the only thing keeping them from being ranked 11 and 12.

LOL!

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Oregon State is rated 2nd because of their game with Wisconsin, if you couldn't tell. Also, as I pointed out, the list is very flawed anyway. Utah is about where they should be, though, really not a tough OOC schedule on a national level. Sammy and the duck busted... again!

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

"Just admit it Utesies, BYU is your lifeline." kennyG

Deep down in your tortured soul you know it's just the opposite. bYu needs Utah more than ever. What's keeping the Y from becoming Rexburg part two is the rivalry with the Utes.

And the Utes are just about to drop the "lifeline".

Delicious, so very delicious. Bwahaaaahah aaaaaaaahhahahahahah

Mildred in Fillmore
Salt Lake City, UT

I always knew playing the bottom of the WAC made BYU's schedule tougher than Utah's.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@stg

It is wisconsin and BYU both. You see they rate the entire ooc schedule, not just one game, and osu's 3rd game is a weakling. For both utah and wsu the only good ooc game they play is BYU hence two dogs each and one good team in BYU. In osu's case two good teams in BYU and wisnconsin and only one dog. That makes then #2 in ooc schedule.

When you have 2 teams that ifnsihed the previous season ranked on your schedule it is considered much otugher than only having 1 team that was ranked. Frankly wihtout BYU on their schedules utah and wsu would hve exactly nothing at all in ooc worth mentioning. Of course all 3 of those pac12 teams games against BYU are slated for national telecast on espn which just kinda proves the point. I'm stil lwaiting to hear where that barnburner utah/northern colorado game is going to be broadcast.

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

Qwest also ran

"BYU was only ranked in the top 25 in 1 out of 3 of the final polls..."

And where was Utah ranked?

BYU Coaches #25, AP #26, Sagarin #34
Utah Coaches/AP UNRANKED, Sagarin #39

BYU EIGHTEEN Top 25 Finishes since 1977 (over 52%)

Utah seven Top 25 Finishes since 1977 (17%)

Whine, deflect, justify, or spin it anyway that helps you sleep at night, but BYU has been a perennial Top 25 for the last 35 years, and continues to be (five Top 25 finishes in the last six years).

Even in their best decade ever, the Utes only managed four Top 25 finishes, to BYU's five.

I know it's hard for our little brothers on the hill to accept, but even during the Bronco/Kyle era:

Top 25 Finishes
Bronco 5
Kyle 3

Top 15 Finishes
Bronco 3
Kyle 1

It's easy to see why the Utes want to drop the Cougars from their schedule; besides USC, BYU is the only perennial Top 25 team on their schedule.

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

Utah fans are too funny for words!!!

Based on Sagarin's Ratings for 2011

#39 Utah's OOC schedule includes:

#34 BYU(10-3)
#80 USU(7-6)
#209 NORTHERN COLORADO(0-11)

Yet, the kids on the hill try desperately to blame BYU for their bottom-feeder OOC strength of schedule???

It's truly mind-boggling the kinds of mental gymnastics that must occur daily for the kids on the hill to produce such mind-numbing spin.

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

QP

"AP, USA Today and BCS polls all release a final poll. You probably didn't know about the BCS poll - it is something the cougars aren't familiar with."

Since you seem to know sooooo much about the BCS final poll:

When is the BCS final poll released?

Which team, BYU or Utah, has appeared in the BCS Final Top 25 more times during the Bronco/Kyle era?

*crickets*

We know you won't answer the questions, because the straight-forward answers would completely invalidate your spin.

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

phoenix

Utah has only finished in the Top 25 six times since 1977, only five times in both polls - in fact, Utah has only finished in the Top 25 in both polls five times in their entire history.

It's easy to see why Utah fans spend so much time trying desperately to minimize the polls, the Utes are hardly ever ranked.

Kosta Fesenko
Chicken McNuggetville, UT

Hey BYU fans.......please list your quality wins from last year.....

ill wait.

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