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Teen had helped cut hair of 3-year-old girl she met at McDonald's

Published: Friday, June 22 2012 9:20 a.m. MDT

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Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Without knowing all the facts it would appear the this judge crossed the line. A judge in Texas recently got himself into hot water for sentencing an honor student to a day in adult jail for truancy. Plus going to school that girl was working a full time job and a part time job to support a sister and brother after her parents abandoned them.

And yes, that judge got his hand slapped real hard.

hhs88
slc, ut

I applaud the Judge. The girls that cut the hair of the little girl went to great lengths to acquire scissors and then cut the hair. Why shouldn't they both have to have cut hair too? And hair will grow back. I think the mom that had to cut the hair should maybe think about teaching her daughter a lesson and that a little shorter hair may help her daughter not be a bully. If I was the judge I would have let the little girls mom cut the hair of the girl that assaulted her daughter.

Gramma of 7
Lehi, Utah

Good for the judge. I'm all for logical consequences. This one will stick with the girl and hopefully help her see that what she did was very wrong. He tried to find a way that would involve less punishment, which doesn't usually work, and more thoughtfulness--giving the girl more reason to understand how her actions affect other people. I do wonder, however, where the little three-year-old's mother was at the time that this was able to even happen.

photographermom
South Jordan, UT

Hhs88 u couldn't agree with you more.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: hhs88 slc, ut
"If I was the judge I would have let the little girls mom cut the hair of the girl that assaulted her daughter."

Then you would be a judge looking for a new job. If your son gives my son a black eye do I get to hit your son so he'll have a black eye also? Instead of teaching hate the mother of the girl who got her hair cut had the opportunity to teach her daughter forgiveness and love. Revenge doesn't bring long term satisfaction.

SpaceCowboy69
Syracuse, UT

The judge made the right decision. Plus, where were the mothers? Do mothers routinely leave their three year old daughters at McDonalds? Is McDonalds the new day care in Price?

RBN
Salt Lake City, UT

Waahhhh! Sounds like a pretty good deal (for the juvenile).

Tators
Hyrum, UT

Actually, in many cases the principle of "an eye for an eye" can be great teaching principle to people, if not taken to extremes (which in this case it wasn't). It helps perpetrators understand the feelings and emotions they forced upon their victims, which is then usually an additional deterrent to them not doing something similar again.
In this case, every time they look in the mirror it will serve as a great reminder to the perpetrators of their unlawful conduct until their own hair grows back... which will take many months... all without enduring any physical pain and no more emotional trauma than they themselves originally caused.
Unfortunately, parents of these juveniles often want only a little wrist-slap given, which leaves the victims feeling even more victimized, and leaves the perpetrators more likely to continue their unlawful behavior .
I sincerely believe this judge used Solomon-type wisdom in issuing this option, which the mothers of the offenders obviously went along with... originally. Now, sadly, one of the mothers appears to be wanting a bit of self publicity over this episode.

twinb
Brigham City, UT

I agree with hhs88. However, perhaps the judge's method was unorthodox, but it's certainly apparent the punishments given many do not deter their bad behavior, and maybe this will serve this teenager better than the community service hours. Too many get away with wrong things. Somehow we need to get back to real discipline. People need to learn from their mistakes, not learn how to work the system and get away with so much.

What kind of message is that mother sending her daughter by suing? Seriously!

county mom
Monroe, UT

In an separate incident, also before the judge, this girl has been cyber bullying another girl. This child is a bully. I have always believed the punishment needs to fit the crime. Her hair cut is minimal, hair grows back. The worst part of all this is the justification her mother is giving her by going on the news and whining. This child is getting fame for being mean. What is her mother teaching her? I wonder where she will be 5 even 10 years from now?

trueblue87
Provo, UT

I think that is a very fair punishment. I probably would have done the same thing as a parent if it was my child and this incident came to my attention.

Furry1993
Clearfield, UT

The daughter is the one who should have had to make the choice between the two punishment options.

Gram Cracker
Price, UT

"Forgiveness and love" wouldn't teach the perp a thing. She would quickly forget and be on her way. This punishment absolutely fit the crime.

VIDAR
Murray, UT

should have cut the mothers hair too.
The mother is the one who cut the hair, she did not have to, it was cut your daughters hair for less community service. And the mother took the deal for her daughter, does not look like the daughter fought the idea, she probably did not care, wanted punk hair anyway.
I do not think the judge should have given her the choice. Working out collecting garbage in the hot sun is more of a punishment anyway.

bballjunkie
Pleasant Grove, UT

I love it! I am one who is tired of hearing these traggic stories were "bullies" are causing young boys and girls to take their own lifes. It is about time someone steps up ( like this Judge) and puts the hammer down.

A quick note to the mother... you might want to be happy with this judge decision before you have to say goodbye to your daughter for life for bullying a kid so far that they take their life and she is found guilty of that crime.

Parents step up and keep an eye on your kids and their stupid behaviors. Help stop this garbage.

dlw7
LOGAN, UT

How can this mother be upset? The judge's actions were fair. She cut the little girls hair so her hair gets cut. Hair grows back. The fact that the older girls had to find a store, purchase scissors and go back and cut the 3 year old's hair makes them pretty guilty. The mother and her daughter is lucky the judge offered them such a simple way out.

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT

The part that bothers me the most is that the mother is whining about the punishment instead of providing an added punishment of her own. I would not only have whacked off my kids hair, I would have whacked his privileges at home and probably his behind, too!

Reminds me of the cartoon I recently saw. Two panels. The first panel, "20 Years ago", shows mom and dad with their child in front of a school teacher. They're holding up a report card. The kid is obviously in trouble, with mom and dad glaring at him, and demanding of him: "What is up with these grades??"

The second panel, "today", shows the parents and child, (with a smirk on his face), they're holding the report card, glaring at the teacher, and demanding of her: "What is up with these grades??". Why do parents continue to facilitate their delinquent children?

tpayne22
cedar city, UT

Well, I dont exactly think it was the most professional thing I have ever seen, but I think its asbolutely awesome! As the judge put it...

"Why shouldn't she get her hair cut?" she said. "The other little girl had to get her hair cut. It fits the crime."

As said by the mother, sometimes it may not be the best way to teach a lesson. But I think its so cool that the judge was willing to do that!

Culture of Rationalization
Salt Lake City, UT

NedGrimley:
That the mother is not actively trying to teach her daughter to be a good person is precisely why she is the way she is. Though my kids--and, I'm guessing yours as well--are not perfect, my kids will never even start on that kind of path because of what we teach them at home. Any type of behavior that we believe is unacceptable is communicated as such very clearly to our kids. As a result, the problems we do have with them are minor.

People, very few of us are as good as we could be. I have met a couple of people in my life that I think are amazing, but that doesn't yet apply to me. Nevertheless, we as adults, we as parents, must give our full effort to being the best we can be as people, as parents, et cetera. When we think it is acceptable to do less than that, any variety of social ills are likely to be the result.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Yes, I was wrong. In reading the story more closely it sounds like the older girls who did the cutting are headed for more serious trouble if their parents don't get them turned around. The judge should be commended for his ruling.

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