photographermomSouth Jordan, UTI would much rather vote for a man or
woman of any religion that has the integrity to stand by those beliefs rather
than a president whose beliefs blow in the wind and will take a stand on
something just because it is politically popular on any given day. Obama is a man of zero integrity.4:32 p.m. June 20, 2012================== Please PLEASE don't tell me you are then a
Jon Hunstman Jr. was read the riot act by Utah Mormons for his
"questionable" Mormon beliefs.Rubio gets a free pass for
rejecting Mormonism all together.Double Standard?Hypocrisy??
I would much rather vote for a man or woman of any religion that has the
integrity to stand by those beliefs rather than a president whose beliefs blow
in the wind and will take a stand on something just because it is politically
popular on any given day. Obama is a man of zero integrity.
EnglishAlan:It is good to hear some thoughts from outside Utah, let alone
outside the United States. I agree with your statement that to vote against
someone because of his religion is a wrong use of a vote and that a man is
either good enough for office or not good enough -- Mormon or not.However,
I don't think anyone has said anything about Mitt not wanting Rubio as his
running mate because Rubio left the church. It would be hypocrisy if that were
the case, but, by all indications, Rubio has not been shunned by Romney for
choosing Catholicism over Mormonism.Thanks for your thoughts, though.
I am unashamedly LDS, having converted from Catholicism as a teenager. That was
my choice, and I am more than comfortable with it. Mr Rubio's family chose
to go back to the Catholic Church, and are comfortable with that. Surely, that
is the "American Way," to have the freedom to choose. (I am not
American, and do not live in America, and so maybe it is none of my business.Over the last several months I have read various people saying that they
could not vote for Mitt Romney because he is a Mormon. My belief is that to use
your vote in that way is wrong. A man is good enough for office, or he is not
good enough judged by his abilities, and not by his religion. As an active LDS
I believe that it is equally wrong if Romney refuses to have Rubio as a running
mate because the latter left the Church. That smacks of hypocrisy, and would, I
believe, lessen Romney's credentials as a potential President of your great
nation. If it is wrong to hold Romney's religious beliefs against him, it
is wrong for Romney to hold Rubio's against him.
We are all capable of being great people.Church helps refine us though.People who judge, are not refined.
This such a non issue. Whooptie Dooptie DOO!So he quit the church, Who cares? I
as a member believe we all have our agency and are free to choose. May God bless
him and his family with what ever religion he embraces.
Who vetted the Author saying Rubio is not on the short list? According to Mitt
Romney only two people know who is on the list. Mitt Romney and Beth Myers. Ann
Romney does not have the list so how does "Karl" make his statement of
knowing? Actually he was just looking for a headline but has again no facts to
back up his guess! Liberal media just wanting to know who it is or guess who it
is to tell us all to take the anticipation out of the announcement! Why? To
cause less people to pay attention to the Republican convention. Having the
possibility of Rubio, Martinez(NM) or Sandavol(NV) will cause millions of
Hispanics to tune in and hear about an economic plan not based on funny money,
massive deficit spending, failed loan guarantees and devisive ideals of who to
tax! Wow, American Exceptionalism, Rational Spending and Integrity
will be on the agenda.Mitt Romney plays it close to the vest and
will this time as well. He is being deliberate and has appointed an excellent
person to lead up the vetting.
@ wrzSalt Lake City, UT"We don't need a Veep who
favors amnesty for illegals. And amnesty means allowing illegals to reside and
work in the US whether they are citizens or not."Might you
define "illegal citizen"? One can understand if you consider any
citizen who has a cultural background you don't like as illegal. Then it
just becomes simplistic jingoism to rant against non-European immigrants. Or do
you prefer going back and just revoking citizenship for any and all immigrants
who at one time entered this country illegally and now are bonafide citizens
with all the rights that gives them?Maybe you can ask them to
"self-deport" once you strip them of their citizenship and remove their
ability to make a living. Of course, you would want to do this without judicial
review because you'd probably be long gone before the first case came to
So he quit the Mormon Church. What's the big deal? Maybe Mitt Romney
would have a problem, being a true believer, and it might be very difficult
having a running mate who found the presidentail candidate's religion a bit
far-fetched and unbelievable. But, what the hey, Rubio won't fixed
Romney's hispanic problem. Better he find a credible Tea Party
"Catholics are decent people"Let me help you out patriot.Some Catholics are decent people, some are not.Some Jews are
decent people, some are not.Some Mormons are decent people, some are
not.Your broad brush misses lots of spots.
@Henry Drummond:"I hope he (Rubio) will stay there and help put
some sense back into the Republican Party."I hope so, too. We
don't need a Veep who favors amnesty for illegals. And amnesty means
allowing illegals to reside and work in the US whether they are citizens or
not.Reagan tried this back in '86. He gave amnesty/citizenship
to millions with the goal of closing the borders to stem more illegal
immigration. And what happened? Reagan's action only encouraged more to
come for the same treatment. And they came. So, we have, what, 15 to 20
million illegals now. Furthermore, much of the illegals in this country came
with legal visas, and overstayed. Securing the borders will not stop cheaters
who overstay visas.Americans need to do something about this grim
situation before it's too late and we are overwhelmed and managed by
Hispanics. It may already be too late as we can see that our elections are
being seriously influenced by the Hispanic vote.
@patriot"Being Catholic doesn't require much in fact it
requires nothing at all."Catholics are attacked by some
protestants because of the Catholic churches emphasis on works. After all,
they're the ones that are even against birth control. Just because they
don't have some of the LDS rules doesn't mean they require nothing,
they still think we'll be judged on our actions (as well as our faith of
course) like the LDS church does. So what do you want from them? For them to pry
into people's lives more completely? To make confession more mandatory
rather than optional? To do more judging on earth rather than leaving it to God?
Being Catholic doesn't require much in fact it requires nothing at all.
There really isn't a code of conduct or morality - there are beliefs but
they are more like suggestions. Catholics are decent people - just sort of
casual about their beliefs for the most part. Rubio is a great man and I suspect
he will be president some day.
There are many whom I have heard express admiration for the principles espoused
by the LDS Church, but said no thank you to an invitation to join, because they
found it to be "too strict."It is not an easy church, as I have
witnessed Apostle Boyd K.Packer say, there are lots of those to choose from, if
its easy you are looking for. Its just the only true Church of Jesus Christ upon
the earth, if that is what one is seeking. I've heard him say it, while
sitting next to investigators, and I cringed a bit...they did not, but joined
because they believed in it. ....I hope Mitt will choose a VP who is
truly up to the task of taking over as President if the occassion should require
it, someone seasoned and steady, like maybe Jeb Bush, or Jake Garn...
Here's an example of a respectful man who simply found the LDS church not
for him, at least his father did.Perhaps some of the bitter former members
might learn from this man on how to say...no thank you.-The end.
I believe Marco Rubio has the chance to be a great leader in the United States
Senate. I hope he will stay there and help put some sense back into the