I am a BYU fan and always have been. But only two of those kids are from Utah.
If BYU is to remain relevant they have got to get the best in state kids. If
the best in state kids are choosing to go elsewhere that speaks volumes about
recent BYU decisions concerning their program.
I'm really excited for this Williams kid, can't wait to see him run.
I'm curtailing my excitement for Mangum, I hope he works hard, gets a feel
for the system and has a great mission.
"Indeed, there are few things BYU coach Bronco Mendenhall hates more than a
sense of entitlement from his incoming players." So when Heaps arrived with
a sence of entitlement, Bronco gave him the starting QB job because
"there's few things he hates worse than a sense of entitlement?"
Seems like an assumption on the part of the journalist.
east of utah, Are you kidding? California high schools have way more
game than Utah high schools. Proof is in the numbers. BYU does not need to
recruit only in state in order to get the best players. BYU has an international
audience with an international fan and recruiting base.
I am soooo excited. This is one of the top 5 freshman classes in college
football. Watch out because as they develop they will make a serious run for
national title. Goooo Cougars!
MaverickNo, pretty sure Bronco has said that, repeatedly, in
interviews.The fact that Heaps was a truly unique situation, that it
could have been handled differently, but probably not better, appears to
contradict that.I don't think it does. You can look at Heaps.
I'll look at others who have worked to prove their worth, both highly rated
scholarship athletes and walk-ons.
intheboothThere isn't a single recruiting site in the known
universe that has BYU's 2012 recruiting class anywhere near the top 25,
much less the top 5. Although it is nice to see you are keeping up with the
proud BYU tradition of making early season predictions of BYU contending for the
NC. I've never seen one made 3-4 years in advance though.
@two for flinchingYou are obviously easily taken in by utah trolls
that make ridiculous posts pretending to be BYU fans.
I think Bronco hates that he drunk the bitter cup of the Heaps Hype. Yes,
Bronco has learned a tough lesson, but the wearing of many hat's by a head
coach comes with the territory. Yes many times a coach finds himself in the
cross hairs, targeted saying somthing contradicting himself or his promises. With that said "Bronco hates more than a sense of entitlement" I
am sure that this is a true statment, but on the other hand ?
intheboothYou are obviously a Y detractor trying to get a rise. Although
BYU does have some very good athletes coming in this year, no one, from any
legitimate service, ranked BYU's incoming class in the top 30. BYU
averaged between 2.8 and 3.0 stars for this class depending on which service you
look at. Comparatively, the U averaged between 2.8 and 3.1 this class depending
on which service you look at. Scout ranks on total points for the top 25
recruits. Because of the RM factor, BYU rarely has more than 15-18 athletes who
count on any given recruiting class. Consequently, their total points rarely put
them higher that the top 35-40 classes. The star average however, shows where
their athletes rank compared to other schools, about even with the middle of the
conference schools from the Big 10, Big 12 or PAC team. If you add the
return missionaries to their recruiting class and take the top 25 athletes
joining the program each year, BYU consistently averages 2.75 to 3.1 stars and
would rank between 25-35 each year.
"If you add the return missionaries to their recruiting class and take the
top 25 athletes joining the program each year, BYU consistently averages 2.75 to
3.1 stars and would rank between 25-35 each year' TJFAIL.One must also SUBTRACT out leaving missionaries. Can't have it both
Another solid recruiting class. There are several stars in the making here.
Butch could be another Poppinga, Van Noy, impact player. Mangum will be a star in about four or five years. If he gray shirts, can he
work out with the team, practice with the team, etc? I thought he was leaving
for a mission directly out of high school. I was surprised that he is attending
BYU.Williams probably has the most opportunity to make an impact as
a Freshman. I expect Williams and Hine to get regular playing time at RB in
most games. Juice and Alisa will carry the load, but Williams and Hine could
get 3 to 5 carries each per game.I can't wait for September. I
guarantee the Cougars will win the opening game.
@hegehogNot "fail", he is correct. All you have to do is
average out the approximately 25 players coming into the program that year,
whether they are fresh out of high school or fresh off of missions. Those
averages balance out exactly where sammyg says they do. You do
realize BYU has that many new recruits and returned missionaries every single
year don't you? And you do realize they all had rankings coming out of HS
don't you? Just take those players and figure the average, even if you want
to not count for the HS recruits leaving directly on missions, which is fine,
you still get that average by figuring all incoming players.I
understand it is hard for a utah "fan" to get math but hopefully this
will help you.LOL!
@CougFaninTXBy grey shirting they can attend school, and get some
credits out of the way, without their eligibility clock kicking in. My guess is
they have time before they are 19 to get a semester out of the way. Yes they are
on the team while they do it.
I hope they have been told to field punts and kiss Bronco's ring. As long
as they realize that ability has nothing to do with playing time on the field
they will be happy at BYU. If some of them expect to play because they are the
best at their position, they may have to transfer.
Duckhunter - you are mistaken - as a grayshirt they are not allowed to be on the
team. While grey-shirting, players are not on the team. They can not practice or
condition with the team. They can not be given any advantage not extended to
the normal student body. Grey-shirts are not allowed at team meetings or
functions either. For all intents they are essentially, regular students -
paying their own way and not taking a full load.
east of utah, I'm a BYU fan and I do think they have a good group coming
in. I do not however see their class as anywhere near a top five ranking by any
publication (they generally bring in smaller classes in number anyways so
it's unlikely they could reach the required point total no matter how well
things were going).I'm not sure what to expect for the upcoming
season. The defense should be quite good but, I really do wonder how Nelson
will do against the better defenses on the schedule.
What is Ducky doing over here? Is she crazy? This is a story about BYU. This is
Sorry Ducky, I almost forgot...LOL!!LOL!!
Hope Tanner likes to run the Airforce option because he won't be throwing
much under the new BYU fun-run offense. Can't imagine any QB prospect who
can actually throw the ball going to BYU anymore. Little Reily Nelson is the new
model for BYU QB. Glad I saved all those 1990's BYU game video - the good
ole days when the Y was exciting to watch.
Heaps is gone. Get over it.