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Published: Sunday, June 10 2012 4:57 p.m. MDT

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My2Cents
Taylorsville, UT

It's understandable the pride and desire of small community to incorporate and create their own identity as a city but there are some serious elements to this that is not well thought out yet.

The recession and economy for city services and operations is a very risky at this time because it is becoming very difficult to financially sustain a city governemnt. They will find that all the promises and reasons to incorporate are short lived and soon become a taxpayers nightmare. Annexation is the driving threat by the proponents but that is misinformation to create fear.

City leaders forget the citizens and become friends of debt and inflation and greed after the first wave of elected representatives fall out of office and their intended cause. The financial strain is a struggle that mayors and high paid CEO's running the city use to raise taxes. Many small and large cities in Utah are dying and struggling to sustain itself and this should be food for thought before approving incorporating.

This is our legacy and struggle in Taylorsville, we can't even pay for a dog catcher so we have to rent one and many other services now.

StateTheFacts
SAlt Lake City, UT

Well stated My2Cents -- you live in reality!. The proponents of Millcreek are extremely narrow and somewhat misguided. For some reason they believe the benefits of a new city should be without cost. The Feasibility Study is very clear; residents of Millcreek will see increase taxes or a reduction in government services. The Study reports a cumulative loss of $2.2million to $12.3 million loss; how is this viable or acceptable? The Study nor any public report from the sponsors provide a clear, responsive benefit or answer to these projected losses. The Feasibility Study states the only way to cover the projected loss is to increase taxes, assess utility franchise fees and/or lower services. Renting a dog catcher is more appealing than what faces the residents of Millcreek. VOTE NO on Millcreek Incorporation.

Shawnm750
West Jordan, UT

My2Cents and StateTheFacts are both right. I grew up in Cottonwood Heights and residents there have had a similar experience.

However, there is a flipside to this argument, and that is annexation by surrounding cities. CH residents ultimately decided to incorporate because Holladay, Midvale and Sandy had all submitted plans to annex parts of CH in order to benefit from all the retail and property tax revenues. Therein lies the real conundrum: Incorporate and solidify your control over your community and its business? Or leave things as they are until another city decides to annex you because they want your tax revenue, and the county gets to trim the cost of supporting you?

There is no easy answer, and obviously both decisions have benefits and drawbacks. This is an issue about which voters in those affected areas REALLY need to educate themselves. Given where these areas are situated, I don't believe they can stay unincorporated forever, but how and when that all happens seems to be in the hands of all the voters right now.

Farmintown
Salt Lake City, Utah

Shawnm750, that was true some time ago, but the laws have changed. To annex, citizens within a Township or unincorporated area must seek, fund, and annex with a city with a common boundary. (Utah Code Annotated § 10-2-403, 408.5, 418.) For an area within the township, the area must be withdrawn from the township before the area may be annexed. This is a fear tactic used by the proponants to emotionally charge people with.

So if a group of citizens adjacent want to be annexed, then they must petition, not a city unilaterally "gobble up" unwilling areas. And I would say in certain circumstances it might make sense (if I lived close enough to Murray I might want a MATURE, well run city with power, water, sewer, etc.) to be part of.

Another argument is "no representation" as if no one from the county represents us living in the area. Look again, there are candidates (i.e. Sam Granato) who live in this area, vote him in or run yourself, but having a whole new layer of government, no way. Vote NO to incorporation!

StateTheFacts
SAlt Lake City, UT

Totally agree with Farmintown -- THERE IS NO AUTOMATIC ANNEXATION. Thank you for quoting State Code. We all remember the Brickyard grab by SLC -- state law protects neighborhoods from this type of action. Annexation is a fear tactic being spread by some sponsors of incorporation.

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