There is a shocker. This is just another reason to retire Hatch. If the
establishment, which has put this nation on the precarious cliff of overwhelming
debt (with no real signs of changing its ways), endorses Hatch. Why would you.
After all, Hatch is the guy who thinks that since unfunded Medicare part
D (a program he championed) came under budget at 17 billion instead of 23
billion that we should pat him on the back and tell him good job.Thanks
Hatch for running up our debt by another 17 billion in unfunded liabilities and
then say in the same breath that your for a balanced budget amendment. Am I the
only one that thinks he is living in "crazy town"? A place where we are
to believe that wrong is right and up is down?
God bless Mr Hatch, God is answering many Prayers from all over America.
One Nation under God. No blame, Just answered Prayers.
"about seniority, whether you think seniority is an important thing for the
state of Utah ... versus a new set of eyes and ears of a very talented
guy."All the seniority system has brought us is debt and
decline. It scares me that the guy who voted for a 15 trillion dollar expansion
of Medicare and wall street bailouts wants to be chair of the senate finance
committee. I still support Governor Herbert and Mitt Romney, but there's no
way that I'd vote for Hatch over the very talented Dan Liljenquist.
Of course he did. Was this a surprise to anyone? The establishment will always
protect their own. Just another reason to vote against Hatch on June 26th.
Last Utah General Legislative Session for 2011, I remember seeing bill after
bill sponsored by Sen. Dan Liljenquist pass the house. I was amazed at the
respect he and the bills had. I was amazed at how both republicans and democrats
voted for them.For example, his 2011 SB 180 Medicaid Reform bill
passed both houses with no votes against it from either party and was signed by
the Governor.With at least 7 bills, both the house and senate, both
republicans and democrats all voted for the reforms Senator Dan Liljenquist
proposed. In all, 9 of his bills were signed by the Governor.We need
that in Washington DC. These are the same areas that are bankrupting our nation.
Again, we need Dan Liljenquist in Washington DC. Yes, we have a US Senator with
35 years of seniority, but remember that in 2011, Senator Dan Liljenquist was
still in his first 4 year term. He did it without seniority.
We need Dan Liljenquist as Senator, with new ideas and new enthusiasm and
dedication to making things happen, not bask in the adulation of crowds based
solely on seniority.Hatch was a good man and a good Senator, but the
task ahead is bigger than Hatch can handle.I am disappointed that
Gov. Herbert chose to endorse Hatch now, instead of remaining neutral.
Wow! It looks like the Liljenquist campaign is on the blogs in force.
That's a really cheap way to get some sort of media when you have no money
to pay for it.Herbert made the right choice although I'm
surprised he did it before the primary. He obviously thinks it's important
enough that he needed to act.
Clearly..."It's Time" to re-elect a true leader for Utah and our
nation. Dan Liljenquist and his merry band of bloggers have annoyed Utah and
our entire nation long enough.I recall Liljenquist's campaign
manager bragging to me that: "Orrin Hatch will be re-elected over my dead
body"...Well, all I can say is...Do you know where her funeral will be
held...(Im in for the Funeral Potatoes)...
Hatch does not need the Governor's endorsement to win big in the primary.
Republicans will not allow a repeat of two years ago. Tea Party and Libertarian
extremists should hold their own caucus meetings and conventions, and not try to
hijack the Republican party. I think we are close to the day when a Hatch
sponsored balanced budget ammendment will pass congress.Nice of Dick
Armee to spend some money here in Utah. But that is all the benefit that comes
from the Lilenquist campaign.
Wow, it looks like Hatch has cleverly lined up one volley after another. But
no matter. It doesn't change the truth that "seniority" means
nothing if you've become part of the problem in Washington. Therefore, in
this case I'll take the "new set of eyes and ears of a very talented
When one of Hatch's primary campaign commercials is "you better vote
for him or we might lose Hill AFB" we know Hatch has nothing new to offer
other than scaring you into voting for him.
Sen Hatch hasn't done it in 35 years of try, hasn't balanced the
budget...why not give Liljenquist an opportunity...why should Sen. Hatch have
another 6 years? Seniority is over-rated, its performance that must be front
and center...performance and wisdom, and wisdom does not always measure out in
number of years. My vote, at this point, is for Liljenquist. By the way, Sen.
Hatch's campaign tactics are not entirely giving a truthful picture of Dan,
are shaded, not forthright, which is not honorable for Hatch. Trying to buy
votes with cowboy hats at the convention was just wasteful of money and
indicative of what we do not need, Sen. Hatch.
Clearly, even the Liljenquist campaign knows that the end is near. Apparently
all of their mad bloggers are out finding other things to do, rather than move
quickly to defend their failed candidate and campaign...
DRay:Liljenquist's expenditures at the convention had the same
objective, draw attention to the candidate. Liljenquist's campaign broke a
rule at the convention by using balloons. The rule specifies NO balloons (No
specific as to free or contained balloons) yet Liljenquist had a large number at
the entrance to his hospitality room. This action suggests to me
that he does not pay attention to things or control those within his coalitions.
Much like not building a coalition to assist with getting retirement reform
through. I wonder how much of OUR money he spent in conferring with legislators
in other states on the matter, especially when studies were completed prior to
his election.Governor Herbert came to an obvious decision; Senator
Hatch is the best qualified candidate for this office. He uses his intellect to
make wise, possibly unpopular choices when necessary. His experience and
ability to work with the multitude of officials in Washington has Intrinsic
value that Liljenquist will require decades to acquire.Does
Liljenquist have the work ethic to do the job? He missed 24% of his votes and
took 3 years to finish the retirement legislation.
MatthewBehun:Congratulations, You hear what you want to hear. Hatch
DID NOT cause an expansion of Medicare to the extent that you claim. His idea
on Part D, which has cost less that expected, was to provide seniors with
medication to intercede in their health issues before they became worse and
resulted in increased costs to care for those individuals.We must
keep in mind that the decisions to increase the debt limit was based on the
ancillary affects that would have occurred. Greater debt costs, non-payment
social security (Non-entitlement program) to individuals, Market factors
affecting retirement accounts of individuals, and many others. What We must
look at is the individual bills that Hatch voted for that caused that
expenditures which resulted in the need to raise the debt limit, Not as you
indicate the one action that resulted from out of control Democratic controlled
Senate.DN Subscriber: "New Ideas" Liljenquist simply took
over where others directed. What original important legislation did he push
through? Not retirement reform, because it takes from the dedicated teachers
and others. He simplistically became involved and took over the work of others
that was in progress when he was elected.
So Liljenquist's supporters cannot comment on the need to retire hatch
without hatch's supporters trying to mock them. C'mon
Cats, Mickey168, as much as I hate to say it, you are showing all the tolerance
of liberal democrats.
Herbert may not have a Primary but he wants to win the election in the fall and
must believe, now that he needs to do this thing. I hope it is beneficial for
Senator Hatch. Seniority can and has been a bad thing for many people that fall
into that thought process. However, even though many Senators have thought they
deserved to be in that spot due to corruption or other tentacles of
organizations, Senator Hatch has been an outstanding support for our US of A and
especially the backbone for Utah support for 36 years. He will be a support for
six more years and his influence on both sides has been good for our country and
especially the State of Utah. He is not a typical soul, he has done so much for
our State of Utah through every type of President and leaders in the House and
especially the Senate. Even when Republicans have been in the majority in the
Senate, he hasn't agreed with everything they did or wanted to do. He does
believe in law and order but also the interests of the State. Dan will take 4
years to figure that out.
Just one more reason to vote for the BEST man for the job -- Scott Howell.
Re: Vaughn J: You are attempting to perpetuate one of the same lies that Sen.
Hatch's super PAC has been promoting again recently, just like they did
before the convention. Hatch himself has attempted to promote this lie. This
is the idea that Liljenquist "missed" 24% of the votes in the state
senate.A bill has to pass in both the house and the senate.
Liljenquist was there every day of the session. During part of that time, he
had to step away from the senate and work with the house, to make sure his
pension and Medicare reform bills passed there as well. That's when he
"missed" some senate votes. But if he was needed on a close senate
vote, then his colleagues notified him.To suggest that Liljenquist
was somehow absent from the legislature or that he shirked his responsibilities
-- when just the opposite is true -- is pretty low. If it's not an
outright lie, it's very close to one.
Re: one old man Ogden, UT"Just one more reason to vote for the BEST
man for the job -- Scott Howell."As long as the Democratic party
continues to support a woman's right to abort her baby because she
doesn't like it's gender Utahn's are going to continue to vote
for the party that advocates for the rights of innocent unborn infants.Don't get your hopes up for a victory in the 2012 elections.
@Vaughn JMedicare part D is an unfunded liability! Saying that it
cost less than expected is a moot point. Purposely adding 17 billion in debt
(even if it is 6 billion less than expected) is a huge problem. This coming from
Hatch who trumpets how he is for a balanced budget amendment but then makes no
effort to try to actually balance the budget. That's called speaking out of
both sides of your mouth. Hatch also complains about outside of the
state money influencing the race. Specifically he has singled out and demonized
FreedomWorks, an organization that simply supports candidates who will commit to
fiscal responsibility. Nevermind that his large war chest is primarily supplied
by Washington special interest.Attempts to diminish
Liljenquist's good work in the state legislature is almost as silly as
saying someone is not qualified because they broke rules related to balloons at
a convention.Hatch has shown time and again that he is more
interested in purveying favor with Washington special interest than he is in
serving Utah citizens. It is time for a change. Liljenquist is a good option.
RiflemanAs long as the Tea Party/GOP continues to dictate women give
birth in times of rape, incest, and health of the mother and that each pregnancy
needs to be tracked by government, no sensible woman or man will vote for that
cartel or what they like to call the Republican Party. Women
don't make the abortion decision as lightly as you think. It's a
little more complicated than "do you want fries with that?" Nice
attempt to set up a straw man, though. Don't drink the tea--it's
I don't think the Governor can cut the umblical cord to Hatch, he needs to
cut is and throw it away. Hatch needs to be called home, now. Mark my words,
Hatch will say after the next term he still has things he needs to do and will
run again. He said that if you haven't got things done in 18 years, then
you need to come home.Well 36 years later he forgot what he said. Itis still an
old boy system in the state Republican party and it needs to change. The
governor also needs to get rid of John Njord as the director of UDOT. Governor
do the right thing, and not the politically right thing. Do what the people have
elected you for, protect the interests of the people, not your politicall
We need new leadership. I like Dan Liljenquist. The Tea Party will take over
the new leadership of the GOP anyway, so Dan could get a good committee then.
The Tea Party knows that Hatch only started to try and talk like he cared, but
truth is he has been a big spender.
Re: Attack of the Republiclones O-town, UT"As long as the Tea
Party/GOP continues to dictate women give birth in times of rape, incest, and
health of the mother"Sorry but Utahn's Republicans approve
of abortion in case of rape, incest, and the health of the mother. A casual
reading of my comment above references abortion where the mother
"doesn't like it's gender".And yes, to some women
abort is LESS complicated than "do you want fries with that?".
The fact that Gov. Herbert is endorsing Sen. Hatch should tell you something
that isn't being said. Both candidates have pollsters to let them know
where they stand. That information may not be shared with the public but Gov.
Herbert is on the inside.Do you think Herbert is going to endorse
the projected loser .... or the winner?